Would you sign up right now for a spot in the NCAA Tournament “Play In” game? I had a good debate about this with a friend of mine and am interested on other thoughts.
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Right now ? No. We are sitting tied for 3rd and we are on a 4 game winning streak. Further, I’d like to see the first few road games. If we can bring home a couple of road wins in January, I would like to see the team earn its way in with either an at large bid or win the B1G tournament.
Bartorvik currently has our odds of making the tournament at 0.3%. So I’d say yes
We are still in a deep deep hole. The last games stopped the dirt from filling it. I now have hope, but realize it is still a longshot.
Interesting, Vegas odds to win the National . Championship has RU at the
39th lowest odds!
39th lowest odds!
Take the Dayton Invitational opening game invite and run! For some reason , I think that’s our destiny vs Creighton on a Wednesday night in Dayton. We win and move onwards vs the 5 seed hopefully in Pittsburgh
Yes. I don’t think some fans understand how historically bad our OOC performance was for an NCAA tournament team.
In a heartbeat - good OTB article talking about the difficult path we have to 12-8 in the B1G (18-12 overall), which the author thinks locks us up for a berth, which I agree with. At 11-9 in the B1G we'd need 1-2 tourney wins, IMO.
https://www.onthebanks.com/2022/1/9...nV6rrSDXmjXRi_4IO9DTk5JgbYbyg42ylbNoNbkNJbsYM
https://www.onthebanks.com/2022/1/9...nV6rrSDXmjXRi_4IO9DTk5JgbYbyg42ylbNoNbkNJbsYM
I appreciate the optimism and I believe we can still make it but I think we need at least 20. UMass, DePaul and Lafayette are all going to finish last (or very close to it) in their conferences.
Kenpom? Not even used for the selection committee. While the sentiment of the article i agree with..12-8 gets Rutgers in I really dont understand the babbling on about efficiency and Ken Pom
No such thing as a play in game. The tournament field is 68 teams.
I don’t know. Our NET is going to be poor no matter what so who we beat in the field will probably matter even with a nice looking record. Wins in remaining games versus PSU (2), Maryland (2), NW, and Nebraska can’t help the resume (though losses definitely could hurt). If those are 6 of the 9 wins en route to 12 and then say we beat Michigan, Minnesota and Iowa (let’s say Iowa gets in as a 9 seed - the others don’t make the field). In that example we’d be 12-8 and we’d have home wins over Purdue and Iowa as our only wins over field teams. I’m not sure 21-13 (first round tourney exit) in that type of scenario gets it done given our OOC. To feel safe - I think we’d need a couple more wins over top teams in the conference.
You would rather want to be an 10, 11 or 12 seed vs a 8 or 9 seed anyway......you have a better chance of advancement in a path of playing a 5 seed or 6 seed, vs being a 8 or 9.
No one remembers what seed Oregon State was last year (12), but that's how you advance not by playing the 1 seed in the Round of 32.
No one remembers what seed Oregon State was last year (12), but that's how you advance not by playing the 1 seed in the Round of 32.
Semantics. Those extra four games are a really stupid tournament format that would never ever exist if not for TV money.
I’m just happy they stopped calling the round of 64 the “second round”.
We have a weird schedule in terms of the in season NCAA bracketology outlook. 7 games coming up against mostly non-contenders followed by a gauntlet of 8 games against mostly teams that will be solidly in the field.
We’d need to do well in the easier stretch to even enter the NCAA conversation - but even at that, I don’t think we could afford to then go on to lose 6 or 7 of the next 8 during the tougher stretch.
If we climb into bubble range - we’ll likely be set up for a landmine game to close out the season (that home game versus PSU could easily be Q3).
We’d need to do well in the easier stretch to even enter the NCAA conversation - but even at that, I don’t think we could afford to then go on to lose 6 or 7 of the next 8 during the tougher stretch.
If we climb into bubble range - we’ll likely be set up for a landmine game to close out the season (that home game versus PSU could easily be Q3).
Fair, but at least 64 team brackets make sense lolThe tournament wouldn't have expanded to 64 teams if not for TV money
When those games count in my bracket pool, I'll stop referring to them as the play-in gamesThe tournament wouldn't have expanded to 64 teams if not for TV money
Yes, TV money is the biggest factor. I also think expansion made sense as the NCAA added more Div 1 teams. I think there are 353 Div 1 MBB teams now. I can’t find the historical numbers, but I seem to recall there were like 275 D1 teams in the mid 1970s (I hope someone can confirm what the actual number was).The tournament wouldn't have expanded to 64 teams if not for TV money
Also, the 3-point shot has been a big equalizer for the lesser teams that have a tough time recruiting talented bigs. So expansion has made sense, especially with more and more parity, as evidenced by teams seeded 1-4 being knocked off in the first round of the tournament.
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One month later we are in 5th place with 3 road wins and I’m definitely not signing up for one of the spots for the Wednesday early games.
We’re a bubble team with a lot of momentum.
The opportunity to play our way into an at large bid Is there.
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