I would hope that Cal has already nipped this garbage in the bud before it starts. Its no longer a protest but a fad now for all the weak, shallow minded followers.
How will you react?
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HAHA. My rouge to rogue word choice correction warrents a ban?
Have a nice day. Done with this for a while.
Yes, because you clearly implied that I was a rogue and insulting other posters is expressly forbidden.
Cal is too shrewd to fall in to this trap imo. He'll find put if any player is interested in protesting, the entire team will just stay in the locker room until the anthem is played
No Jarhead here. My oath was to defend the Constitution. Not that a civilian would know better.
Would not myself but, peaceful protesting>chaos and mayhem at the expense of ones neighborhood. Freedom of expression.
I understand, it's just that I don't remember you being so pissed when Cal let the boys take this pic last year:
Sure, it didn't make the official cover, but to let them pose with it even as a joke was borderline at best.
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Here's my take. The NBA much like the NFL drafts on a lot of things. Character included. The guys in both sports have made it, if they want they can walk away and are are for life. A college kid who is trying to make it doesn't have this luxury yet. I don't think he is going to take that chance now.
Oh, the Gomer Pyle profile pic led me to believe you were a member of my Corps. No civilian here.
But you're right..... your oath was to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Which I'm assuming means you've at least read the preamble, right? Additionally, it goes without saying that a big part of the constitution lies within the Bill of Rights and the 1st amendment.
But I'm done here.
Look man, all I'm saying is if we -- as a society -- start cavalierly discarding tried and true conjunctives, then we might as well resort to the savagery of martial law (or, as Coach X11 might call it, "marital" law).
Oh, btw, FU Jason.
I'd be all tored up about it. My wife Sharon Jean would prolly jerk a half inch in their arses. Then I'd prolly pour a 55 gallon drum full ugh whoop *** all over em. Gimme a hell yea if you're down with that.
I wouldn't like it.I just want sports events to be about sports.They can do anything they want in their private lives and attend protests or whatever.I'm sick of politics being dragged into everything.
That's exactly what Virginia just did, and yes, that is the right way to do it. Do it, do it as a team, get it out of the way, and let's move on.
Yeah, but the flip side is that what you were defending was much more than a flag. The country that flag represents is the greatest in the world.
Why is it the greatest in the world?
Because of freedom. Freedom from the government telling us what we're allowed to think and say.
Lots of snarky liberals respond to that by saying "LOL the first world European countries are so much more advanced because..." wrong. wrong. wrong.
...when we're talking about freedom of expression, at least. Many of those countries have no equivalent to the first amendment, and in many countries over there you can be fined or arrested for saying the wrong things about gender, race, religions (mainly Islam), historical events, you name it.
I love living in a country where some nut can say that (insert historical event) didn't happen and I can just laugh at him and not see him carted off to jail.
I love that my enemies can say things that offend me and that I can fire right back with ideas that hurt their very soul - and unless there's a physical threat in there, none of it will get either of us punished by the government.
That's how I know I live in a free land.
THAT is what you defended. And I thank you for it, because f--- all the fascists who want to tell us what we're allowed to think.
except the part where 90% of what they're standing for is flawed logic. Just because you can protest doesn't mean what you're protesting is valid. Just because you can protest doesn't mean level minded people can't form their own conclusion about your IQ. Most of these issues are proven myths. There is no oppression, by definition, of blacks in this country. The reason most of the reasons given are anecdotal is because the data tells a far different story.
These are pompous and ignorant positions taken by a class of americans that are doing it for nothing other than to appear empathetic. These athletes (Ck) specifically, were raised by white people, given a scholarship paid for by majority white people, given a million dollar contract by white people watching his product etc. For him to taken a stand in this manner shows whiteout a doubt he's either not very bright, or just being an *** to feel warm and fuzzy.
I can agree with some of this, but again, flawed logic is still flawed logic, even when you fly it under the vail of "freedom of speech".
And lets not forget, these same people spreading myths about black oppression at the hands of whites and police, are the same ones that will walk in a voting box and cast their ballot for the party that wants to arm only the government and the police.
You seriously cannot describe the stupidity with words.
We used to go at it like drunk monkies doctor. Now I can't get a rise outta her.
Well all the posts about disrespect or whatever, the protest is therefore working. It is getting a lot of attention to the problems with racial bias and issues within law enforcement. If no one cared it wouldn't be an effective method. So, to answer the original post, I personally would not be upset because College campuses are about education and protesting and trying to improve upon the ills of society. We did it with the Vietnam war and we were right. So many lost their lives there for absolutely nothing. And, if you go to Vietnam today they are very hospitable to Americans. So, sometimes to make change it takes protest and media attention. At least this is all non-violent. However, I hope none of the Kentucky players do so as the media will blame Cal and put a negative spin on Kentucky as they would want to do.
College campuses protested the Vietnam war correctly, and were right?
You think spitting, throwing fruit, and cursing returning soldiers serving their country was the right way to go about it? The punks at universities are the most coddled, spoiled, self diluted snow flakes on planet earth, and they nearly destroyed the liberal base until most people forgot about how evil and terrible they were.
I'm not an advocate for the Vietnam war, and don't know many who are, but to say the college students of that day righted a wrong is ********. They are against ANY form of intervention, at all times. They are told how to learn, think, and advocate; the way their liberal college professors tell them to. It's not like they saw something enlightening.
It might be the end of my relationship with UK Basketball.
The problem with most of these people is they have never seen real oppression. They've never seen how great America actually is by way of relativity. They've lived a coddled life thanks to the flag and the soldiers, with no real perception of true life. They've been given a gift and thanks to ignorance, they blissfully try and find something to ***** about. It makes them feel important.
It's all BS.
I don't let stupid stuff like that bother me or affect me so I would just watch the game like normal and enjoy it for the entertainment it is.
I've got to start following this path. This crap eats at me. We have people who fought for this country in my family dating back to WW1. People who fought true evil and laid the foundation we all have today so these idiots can drive from the passenger seat. My grandfather was captured by the Germans in france in WW2. Laid in a field and shot 9 times, lost a limb, and survived 10 months in a german camp so these idiots can complain about nothing.
Sometimes I wish America wouldn't have won in the world so these imbeciles could live under true oppression and see exactly the way it could be.
oppression of police in a myth. Theres too much data to cite. You're a smart enough guy to research.
Pick some of it. I'm genuinely curious to see it. Not the entire thing, that'd be huge in scope, but something you think is most important or that is the biggest element of proof. If there's concrete data debunking racism or oppression, that's something worth looking at.
What do you want to see? The crime statistics in black communities correlated with policing is alarming. It shows just how reserved policing actually is. White Americans in large are some of the least racist people people on earth, as evident by the system in place. Blacks are given
Affirmative action (even if unqualified)
higher scored on Sat's for being black
The subprime mortgage column
scholarships awarded for their race
social programs that directly impact their neighborhoods through tax dollars
and that's just the tip.
It' called minority privilege, and I think America has actually harmed their cause in the long run by playing this game of soft bigotry. In reality we live in an era of "Darwinism", the belief that darker people cannot compete or preform to task, so we must lower the bar. It's truly disgusting.
I don't know exactly what you want to see, and usually these threads get deleted or some of us are silenced, but I'd be happy to cite actual data showing police brutality against AA's is a myth.
IMO spread about by liberal politicians as a means of playing the "identity political game".
You might be right. But Cal is pretty liberal politically. I wouldn't be surprised if he was ok with it. I hope not though.
If Hillary wins they will see oppression. It won't just be blacks being oppressed, it will be everybody.
I don't know what I want to see because I'm not sure what's available. I just know my first inclination was that it's a very difficult argument to quantify, and that I'm open to seeing what you have seen that you feel so strongly about.
I tend to believe that systemic issues like housing and education are so entrenched that we almost don't notice them, and there appears to be an alarming trend of black men being killed by police in situations that don't call for that level of violence, and a disproportional lack of accountability and punishment for that, but if there's reputable data to the contrary, I could be shown otherwise. I've been proven wrong before.