How upset would you be if Dan left?
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Miles leaves LSU---Freezus Christ leaves Ole Miss and goes to LSU---Murllenz leaves MSU and goes to Ole Miss... Yep, I'll be pretty pissed off if that happens.**
I`m upset about the never ending rumors. Don`t tell me Dan couldn`t make most of that **** (NOT ALL) stop if he wanted to. It`s gotten old to me if to no one else.
If the rumors play out, some of the folks likely to be fired from "bigger" schools this year are pretty good coaches.
And honestly, who was Dan before he came to State?
I don't think it would prove an impossible time to make a strong hire. State has a lot of money compared to most programs and a program in good shape with a competent AD and a supportive but not insane fan base. It's honestly hard for me to muster up a whole lot of concern about Dan leaving if he wants to.
Yeah, this is part of why I'm okay if he goes. At first it was understandable because of the novelty and pay negotiations. But now, it often strikes me that he enjoys thinking he's bigger than the program and hopes others think it too. Okay. They'll be other good folks who are happy to be at State.
He has no obligation to us. Quit being a *****.
We're playing big boy ball. It comes with the territory. Trust the administration to do the job they're tasked with and handle the scenario, whatever it may be.
We're playing big boy ball. It comes with the territory. Trust the administration to do the job they're tasked with and handle the scenario, whatever it may be.
So what`s the 4 mil for then ? The problem is there are always rumors but no known job offers. We can recover quickly from him leaving if he has a legitimate offer and leaves but these annual rumors are hurting us when we are paying too much for this crap to be going on. I`m just a big enough boy to call it like it is. You ?
I couldn't have said that better.
The never ending speculation in conjunction with his refusal to squelch it wears me out.
His answers never close the door when they easily could. They are always clever but not definitive. Almost scripted.
Good lord we've made him the 16th highest paid coach in the country. Not sure what more he could want from MSU. He makes more than 99.999% of the fan base.
He is turning in to the high maintenance pretty good looking girl that goes out with you but she thinks she's smoking hot and doing you a favor by going out with you. At some point you realize there is a difference between pretty good looking and smoking hot.
For this to come up year after year, some of it has to be him and/or his agent. Enough is enough.
If he feels he needs to go then thank you Dan and Godspeed.
I had the privilege of lunch with one of MSU's largest donors today. He pointed out something I hadn't thought of...from his perspective Howland has pimped MSU and Starkville more to the media in 6 months than Dan has in a couple of years. And Howland has ACTUALLY been to the mountain top as a HEAD COACH. 3 times I think. Not just talked about going there.
Does it really come with the territory?
Look at this list. Which ones at or above Dan's pay grade are rumored to be in contention for other jobs every single year:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
Maybe I just don't pay enough attention to other program's coaching rumors, but the ones I hear about are the ones who might be fired for not producing more.
Personally, I think four million ought to buy the appearance of a pretty deep commitment to our program. I'm not talking about devoting a great deal of attention to it during Egg Bowl week. I mean consistently communicating something that shuts this stuff down all the time.
If he wins tomorrow, not a ton. The narrative will be that he owned UM, and if we get a Sugar Bowl berth, we can compete with every opening in the country except USC (supposedly filled) and LSU (may be as good as filled, but that may also open up FSU). If we're in Orlando or Tampa, it's still good. Yeah, it's a sellers market, but we'll find a top-notch young guy who wants to make a name in the best division in college football. We're primed for another solid year in 2016, and we can pay top 10 money if we need to.
If we lose, quite a bit. The narrative will be that Freeze owned our greatest coach of the modern era, and he ran away because he knew he could never top the Rebels again. Oh, and we'll have to hear how our greatest player ever was 0-2 as a starter in the Egg Bowl.
If we lose, quite a bit. The narrative will be that Freeze owned our greatest coach of the modern era, and he ran away because he knew he could never top the Rebels again. Oh, and we'll have to hear how our greatest player ever was 0-2 as a starter in the Egg Bowl.
If he stays he is in even better shape here with changes happening all around us. Stability in our program might mean one more win next year. That says he has done a good job for us and that is what we pay him for.
Rather keep him. Every year under him has been enjoyable and I haven't had to endure a croom like season yet. Pay him and keep him around. It's more logical to me than getting on the coaching carousel every 3-4 years. Regarding him squashing the rumor mill, if your employer thought there was the potential you might leave for another job and was willing to up the ante to make you stay, would you guarantee them you weren't leaving before you carved out your new deal or keep that card up your sleeve until they gave you more money?
The Bears have been working that Dak narrative since the Summer.
Please football Gods do not let this happen.
Please football Gods do not let this happen.
Maybe Dan could "strenuously" dismiss the rumors.
"I don't like commenting on other jobs just because it's a waste of time," Mullen said. "I love the one that I have. Not much else on it besides that."
But maybe he could address it more "strenuously".
"I don't like commenting on other jobs just because it's a waste of time," Mullen said. "I love the one that I have. Not much else on it besides that."
But maybe he could address it more "strenuously".
Not worked up at all about the rumors. I just don't see him leaving MSU for any of the jobs currently open, other than possibly Southern Cal and I don't see them offering the job to him. If LSU comes open (which it looks like it will), I can't see them firing Les Miles for not beating Bama and hiring a coach who's 0-7 against Bama. If he leaves for a Florida State, Georgia, or Texas, I'll thank him for 7 great years and putting us in a great position to make a good hire to replace him.
Coaches hardly ever squelch the speculation. It's their job and livelihood. Each time they get linked to another job, it usually means a raise. Would any of you do differently with your job? People who get tired of hearing about it need to get over it. Why? Because having a coach poached is a hell of a lot better than getting rid of one because they have sucked it up. Have we EVER had a FB HC hired away because he was worth a damn? If so, it's been a long damn time.
This whole thread is pretty ridiculous. Mullen won't get an offer that we won't match. Period. So he won't leave for money. Only way he leaves is if an elite school offers him, which it's questionable that he'd be at the top of any of their lists to begin with. But if they do, so be it. The last thing I'm going to do is sit around and worry about it.
Lol. If linking me to another job got me a cool million, link away. Coaching isn't of this planet and doesn't relate to any of us.
We still haven't. Dan just likes to pretend it's a possibility, and some of us, apparently, like to pretend it too. Others of us are tired of this salary gamesmanship out of Dan. The danger in playing this card too frequently is that erodes the sense of loyalty that an institution might feel towards you the next time you go six or seven wins. I think there are other people out there than can do Dan's job as well or better than he'd doing it; I wouldn't be surprised if Strickland had their contact info.
No one is pretending. It is a possibility and he would be crazy not to listen to offers. We won't get a single coach that doesn't do the same exact thing. Hell, i certainly would do the same thing in his shoes unless this was my dream job - which we know isn't the case for him.
I don't disagree it can be used against him but I would bet he has told Stricklin, coaches, the team and recruits a little more than "I won't comment on that." Further, every year he stays despite this garbage is more proof he isn't lying. And the administration is no where close to not being loyal to him. He has done things no one has ever done here - all of us and the administration should say thanks every chance we get.
In the end, I suggest everyone get used to it. Until he is here so long that he becomes another Beamer, this will happen every year unless the team has face planted that year. I don't blame him at all even though I prefer he stay. If he leaves, then he has left us much better than we have ever been and finding a quality coach shouldn't be as difficult as it could have been.
I'm out.
I don't disagree it can be used against him but I would bet he has told Stricklin, coaches, the team and recruits a little more than "I won't comment on that." Further, every year he stays despite this garbage is more proof he isn't lying. And the administration is no where close to not being loyal to him. He has done things no one has ever done here - all of us and the administration should say thanks every chance we get.
In the end, I suggest everyone get used to it. Until he is here so long that he becomes another Beamer, this will happen every year unless the team has face planted that year. I don't blame him at all even though I prefer he stay. If he leaves, then he has left us much better than we have ever been and finding a quality coach shouldn't be as difficult as it could have been.
I'm out.
"Until he is here so long that he becomes another Beamer"
If Beamer went the same route Dan seems to be taking Beamer would have been making 60 mil a year the last few years.
If Beamer went the same route Dan seems to be taking Beamer would have been making 60 mil a year the last few years.
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