How to mitigate mass shootings

boomerwv

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It worked so well that the FBI/ATF said it produced no meaningful impacts.

They’re common enough that since they’ve been banned for almost 100 years we still have incidents. Works great.

Full autos in circulation during those times would account for less than 5% of what’s in circulation for AWs now. GTFOH.

So, no actual facts to back to back it up? There have been plenty of studies showing mass shooting events went down during the ban and increased when it was lifted. That's observable as well. As assault weapons have increased, mass shootings have become more frequent and deadly.
 

WVU82_rivals

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it took the communist news network 48 hours to finally print the truth...



I'm shocked that they actually did announce this...
 

Mntneer

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So, no actual facts to back to back it up? There have been plenty of studies showing mass shooting events went down during the ban and increased when it was lifted. That's observable as well. As assault weapons have increased, mass shootings have become more frequent and deadly.

As gun free zones were create, mass shootings have become more frequent. But please provide your studies that show mass shooting events went down during the ban, but be sure to cite studies that examined the firearms used in mass shooting events pre and post ban.

However, the first flaw in the debate is the definition of "mass shootings".

The big problem in this country.... culture. We are raising more and more fuc#ed up kids. Period.
 

30CAT

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I look at this from the perspective of how to survive a mass shooting situation. I don’t see assault-style weapons, per se, as the problem. I see interchangeable magazines and high-capacity magazines as the problem.

I’d limit the sale of all semi-auto rifles to fixed 5-shot magazines. I don’t know if fixed magazines would be practical for handguns, but the magazine capacity could certainly be limited.

To help get the existing guns off the street, have a mandatory trade-in program to exchange guns with interchangeable magazines for guns with fixed magazines (5-shot). Gun manufacturers might get a big sales boost. Ammunition manufacturers would probably be pissed. Possession of a banned semi-automatic rifle would result in confiscation and a significant fine.

Limiting the amount of bullets a terrorist can fire in a short period of time would reduce fatalities in these situations.

Limiting magazine capacity won't do a thing, because it is too easy to modify them to hold as many bullets as you like. Criminals aren't going to "trade in their guns" either.

We need to attack the real problem...

"This is exactly what you get in a culture where anything goes and nothing matters. Extract all the meaning and purpose from being here on earth, and erase as many boundaries as you can from custom and behavior, and watch what happens, especially among young men trained on video slaughter games.

For many, there is no armature left to hang a life on, no communities, no fathers, no mentors, no initiations into personal responsibility, no daily organizing principles, no instruction in useful trades, no productive activities, no opportunities for love and affection, and no way out. This abyss of missing social relations is made worse by the everyday physical settings for everyday lives based on nothing: the wilderness of parking lots that America has turned itself into. Such is the compelling myth of the New World as a wilderness that we obliged ourselves to re-enact it, minus nature, including human nature, especially what may be noble and sacred about human nature.

The old truism sticks: when nothing is sacred, everything is profane, and what could be more profane than slaughtering your fellow humans en masse, for no good reason? Just because you felt like it at the time? Another time, you might feel like scarfing some tacos, or checking in on the free porn sites, or tweaking some crushed-up oxycontin. One message from the culture of anything-goes-and-nothing-matters comes through loud and clear: if it feels good, do it! And if you feel bad, do something to make yourself feel better
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DvlDog4WVU

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So, no actual facts to back to back it up? There have been plenty of studies showing mass shooting events went down during the ban and increased when it was lifted. That's observable as well. As assault weapons have increased, mass shootings have become more frequent and deadly.
And overall gun violence and violent crime has gone down despite the exponential increase in firearms ownership.

Moreover, AWs account for less than 5% of overall gun violence. Pistols, account for 90%. You’re trying to engineer a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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As gun free zones were create, mass shootings have become more frequent. But please provide your studies that show mass shooting events went down during the ban, but be sure to cite studies that examined the firearms used in mass shooting events pre and post ban.

However, the first flaw in the debate is the definition of "mass shootings".

The big problem in this country.... culture. We are raising more and more fuc#ed up kids. Period.
We used to have a way of controlling this. We identified the fvcked up kids early on and beat them into submission and subservience. Bullies were a good thing. It’s only when we started normalizing the freak shows that this **** started rising. I say we go back to shoving these little fvcks into lockers and tying them to the goalposts naked.
 

Gunny46

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A causes B, so let's outlaw C.

That makes sense.

We need some mental health facilities for the sickest that resemble this place. United States Penitentiary, Administrative Maximum Facility (USP Florence ADMAX)
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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We need some mental health facilities for the sickest that resemble this place. United States Penitentiary, Administrative Maximum Facility (USP Florence ADMAX)
No, we need parents to understand little Johnny is fvcked up and not a perfect little angel. Of course, we also need less divorce, more stable households, and a renewed focus on the moral and principled patriarchy in order to establish normalized sense of decorum and behavior for our youth.
 

boomerwv

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And overall gun violence and violent crime has gone down despite the exponential increase in firearms ownership.

Moreover, AWs account for less than 5% of overall gun violence. Pistols, account for 90%. You’re trying to engineer a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

I'm not engineering anything, I said in my first post that I didnt necessary buy into this line, but to say outright that it couldnt work I dont think is accurate either.
 

Gunny46

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No, we need parents to understand little Johnny is fvcked up and not a perfect little angel. Of course, we also need less divorce, more stable households, and a renewed focus on the moral and principled patriarchy in order to establish normalized sense of decorum and behavior for our youth.

You're right. Started in the sixties. So I'm for bringing back mental health facilities because this isn't getting fixed overnight.


40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
Read more at https://www.beliefnet.com/columnist...essional-record-1963.html#tdJAGPkaCychB4MG.99
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I'm not engineering anything, I said in my first post that I didnt necessary buy into this line, but to say outright that it couldnt work I dont think is accurate either.
Again, you’re targeting the .000000000000001% of gun owner for a Minority Report type of enforcement. I’d rather put my energy on a renewed focus of the male father figure to teach the patriarchal morality and decorum for how a man lives his life.
 

TarHeelEer

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No, we need parents to understand little Johnny is fvcked up and not a perfect little angel. Of course, we also need less divorce, more stable households, and a renewed focus on the moral and principled patriarchy in order to establish normalized sense of decorum and behavior for our youth.

That's too hard. Let's just ban guns.