How often do rookie contracts get renogitiated?...

dawgstudent

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I know Russell Wilson's got a new contract after year 3. His first contract was 4 years for 3 million. Dak's is 4 years for 2.7 million. Do you think he would get renegotiated after year 2 if he has another successful year?
 

11thEagleFan

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Dallas would be smart to try and renegotiate Dak after year 1, IMO. They've got him locked down for 3 more years, so they've got all the bargaining power, but you see he's a special player so you want to make him happy. They could potentially lock in a Pro Bowl QB for "cheap" and make him set financially. Offering him something like a 6-year, $36 million contract would be the smart move.
 

57stratdawg

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Don't they have like a $20Million cap hit from Romo alone next year?

Dak is never going to hold out. If I'm Dallas, I'll try to talk to him in year 3.
 

11thEagleFan

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He has 3 more years on a dog contract though. That new deal would be renegotiated too. Dallas has a great opportunity that they don't really deserve, but I see Dak being very happy soon. They're gonna get a great QB for much less than what he's worth.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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If I were Dallas, I'd sweeten the POT, ASAP

Excess Romo $ should be available, for next season.

Assuming Dallas does well in the playoffs, Dak will pickup a pretty good sum (from that).
 

Dawgzilla

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That's the way the CBA works now. Seattle got a bargain on Russell Wilson for 4 years, and Dallas gets a bargain with Dak. At least Prescott will get a huge performance bonus at the end of the year, but Elliott will likely take a large share of that as well.
 

Drebin

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I know Russell Wilson's got a new contract after year 3. His first contract was 4 years for 3 million. Dak's is 4 years for 2.7 million. Do you think he would get renegotiated after year 2 if he has another successful year?


They won't do anything before the start of year 4, because they don't have to.

It's like this with all sports. I immediately think of a team like the Mets in MLB, who are currently underpaying Noah Syndergaard, Matt Harvey, and Jacob Degrom because of their tenure.
 

Go Budaw

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I think they will try to re-up after year 3. It would be a mistake for Dallas to let him go into the final year of his deal without an extension in place because then he'll have all the leverage and his agent will rake them over the coals. And with the constant renegotiating of the CBA to allow for larger and larger contracts, Dallas will also have incentive to get a long term deal done sooner rather than later.
 

coach66

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Correct, but Jerry will make sure money is not a problem, it's called

endorsements.
 

aTotal360

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Dallas has to win now. When all those lineman, Dak, Zeke, and Dez are up for new contracts, the salary cap won't allow them to stick together. You can't have 5 Pro Bowlers on offense for more than a couple years.
 

esplanade91

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I think they will try to re-up after year 3. It would be a mistake for Dallas to let him go into the final year of his deal without an extension in place because then he'll have all the leverage and his agent will rake them over the coals. And with the constant renegotiating of the CBA to allow for larger and larger contracts, Dallas will also have incentive to get a long term deal done sooner rather than later.
This.

That's when Romo's cap hit leaves the books (will count against them for 3 years regardless if they trade him) + that's enough of a sample size to warrant big boy money + it allows them to keep him from being a FA (or prevents Dak from being tempted to look into it).

His agent would be doing a major disservice to Dak if he tried to renegotiate a contract deal before then, for a few reasons, mostly he'd be cheating his client out of a lot of money left on the table. The biggest FA QB signing this last year was for a REASONABLE $18mm including all eligible bonuses for a backup QB who has what amounted to a smaller sample size than what Dak has in only 11 games. I know people laughed at Osweiler getting that much money at the time, and certainly it hasn't looked like a great investment as the season has grown on, but locking any QB up for multiple years for less than $20mm is... not shabby. If you believe he'll start 16 games a year barring injury.

Hypothetically... if his agent wasn't laughed out of the Cowboys facilities and got the Cowboys to even consider reupping his contract without casting some sort of dark cloud on Dak and how he conducts his business... $18mm for 4 years is probably the best he's going to do. Mind you, that's $18mm including all bonuses, including league MVP, Super Bowl appearance, leading the league in passing yards, Pro Bowl... etc.

On the flipside of the coin, if Dak sucks it up for 3 years like every other non-1st round pick has done for the last 6 draft classes, he's probably looking at the largest 2nd contract for a QB in at least a decade, possibly ever. Until then, he can play without having the weight of a $21-25mm contract and the responsibility that brings on his shoulders (see: potential future HoF'er Tony Romo). He's probably already making more money from Adidas and Buffalo Wild Wings alone than he's clearing from the Cowboys, anyway. And that's just 2 endorsements that we know about. If I'm not mistaken, I think he stands to clear less taxes on endorsement money as well, as he doesn't have to pay multiple states' taxes each time he gets a paycheck.

This is of course not even mentioning the contracts of the offensive linemen that expire in the next few years, Cole Beasley, Dez Bryant, Jason Witten (more accurately: replacing Jason Witten), shoring up an average-at-best defense, or Ezekiel Elliott, whose contract expires on the same day as Dak's.
 
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aTotal360

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^^^This^^^ Dak is playing for endorsement money now. He'll get a $30M signing bonus as a reward for the previous years and $70M guaranteed on his next deal. Franchise QBs don't "get away" unless there is a rift. Not to mention Dak's dream in life is to be the QB for the Cowboys. He might be like Brady and give them the hometown discount.
 

Go Budaw

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Dallas has to win now. When all those lineman, Dak, Zeke, and Dez are up for new contracts, the salary cap won't allow them to stick together. You can't have 5 Pro Bowlers on offense for more than a couple years.

Totally agree, but the QB is always going to take precedence over every other one of those positions listed in terms of who the organization will want to prioritize locking down over the long term. RB's are a dime a dozen and Zeke will not be what he is now 5 years down the road. They aren't going to throw outlandish money at him. Dez will be somewhat of a priority, but he is getting older and won't get a max contract either. The chances are they will lock down Dak first and then the linemen after that, then split the remainder of their big contract money between Dez and Zeke with the understanding that they probably will lose one of them.
 

BoomBoom.sixpack

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When you're an injury away from earning nothing, a guaranteed $10M or $20M sounds damn good compared to $40M or $50M years from now if everything works out. Dak can get a new deal right now, if he's willing to eat enough in potential future earnings.

i think the wild card is how much can Dak make right now in endorsements? if he can bank $5M or $10M this offseason, that makes it a ton easier to roll the dice on future earnings, driving up the cost it would take to lock him in. and that probably makes it not worth it to Dallas to renegotiate.
 

Shamoan

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Dallas would be wise to hold out longer, but not the full length of his rookie contract. A couple of years ago, kapernick as one of the hottest qb's in the league and a dynamic playmaker....then reality set in and defenses figured him out (rather easily I might add). I hope dak gets paid big time and I think he will, but a wait and see approach would be the wise financial move for Dallas. What dak needs to do is cash in on endorsements while the iron is hot and make serious financial gains in that regard. After year 3, I think he will have some serious cash rolling his way, but he is the hottest name in the NFL and brands are going to throw themselves at him trying to get endorsements. Not a bad spot to be in...
 

BulldogBlitz

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He has 3 more years on a dog contract though. That new deal would be renegotiated too. Dallas has a great opportunity that they don't really deserve, but I see Dak being very happy soon. They're gonna get a great QB for much less than what he's worth.

where do I sign up to be a dog? 450k is a buck or two more than I make.
 
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