I think that it is 90% daily preparation by the coaches, 10% game calling with the exception of some really outstanding late game calls here and there that in reality could go either way. Just my opinion from years of experience (on this board).
How much does coaching matter really?
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As a UK fan I don’t think I want to use future NBA stars as a measuring stick for success.
I think coaching can be the most important factor if you can recognize the type of roster you have and adapt to that. I believe too many coaches force rosters and particular type of players to adapt to trying to be like previous rosters and players they have had.
Brad Stevens is the best I have seen at adapting his coaching style to the current roster and players he has.
Brad Stevens is the best I have seen at adapting his coaching style to the current roster and players he has.
Ok....seemed to me like you were using Gordon Heyward and Shelvin Mack as a way to downplay Stevens' success as a coach. But maybe I did miss your point.
I was saying he had more success with great players. Shelvin Mack, Gordon Hayward and Matt Howard at a school like Butler is going to be the most talented team on the floor most nights.
His success with the Celtics has increased as their roster has improved. He's a better coach with Kyrie, Horford, Tatum, Brown, etc than he was without those guys or when they were developing.
Basically, you'll never find a coach who won a lot with bad players.
Go replay Sean Miller talent laden teams at Arizona and tell me how much coaching doesn't matter too much.
Chicago didn't win till Jackson, N.E. didn't win till Belichick, G.St. on!y won once before Kerr, Steelers didn't win before Noll.
You do need talent to win, but you also need a good coach to mix the batter. JMO
I left two names out that have won 5 & 3 NCAA titles because their teams get way too much coverage here..
Yes, it does, but this is a laughable example.
yea....coaching matters
The USA national teams, particularly the 04 Olympic team, were horrendously constructed, and the whole system was broken.
Krzyzewski was part of fixing that, but a much bigger part was getting a commitment from the best players, and then having them show up and actually care about winning.
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I think your point remains, but I am pretty sure that Spellman and DiVincenzo (this one I'm 100% certain) redshirted. Which would mean they were coached for two and three years, respectively.
yea....coaching matters
Here's Coach K head coaching record with Team USA before the Dream Team.
1987 University Games: 7-1 Silver Medal
1990 Goodwill Games: 3-2 Silver Medal
1990 World Championship: 6-2 Bronze Medal
People forget that after the 2004 debacle, Coach K's 2006 team also failed to bring home gold after getting upset by Greece and settling for a bronze medal that year.
http://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
Was that coaching?
Has to be. Coaching matters. That guy posted pictures of basketball teams and everything. There's no other alternative.
That Duke game was lost in the week leading up to the game. The team was prepared and it showed. That’s coaching. A lot of our mistakes in the NCAA tournament games that end up being losses are due to poor coaching.
You mentioned the Patriots. They never have the most talent. Plus they are notorious for cutting some of the better players in the off seasons and bringing in players less talented and they suddenly start playing better than they ever had. Same applies to the Spurs.
How much it matters is based on the sport and the team. In CBB it matters a lot. Especially when your team is always freshmen and sophomores. Elite coaching is the difference between us having 1 title in the last 9 years compared to 2 or 3.
You mentioned the Patriots. They never have the most talent. Plus they are notorious for cutting some of the better players in the off seasons and bringing in players less talented and they suddenly start playing better than they ever had. Same applies to the Spurs.
How much it matters is based on the sport and the team. In CBB it matters a lot. Especially when your team is always freshmen and sophomores. Elite coaching is the difference between us having 1 title in the last 9 years compared to 2 or 3.
Nopbiac,
Right. I never said they weren't experienced. Spellman's redshirt year is why Wright still has never had an OAD. But Spellman's redshirt, in particular, was forced by the NCAA and DiVincenzo was genuinely injured. My point is that Jay was not purposely elongating their college careers. They went pro as soon as the NBA paid attention to them, and for Spellman that was in his only year on the court.