How is Super Regional site determined

josebrown

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You'd think it would start with highest seeded regional n go from there, but I think it's the committee and where they want it... Where's Larry Simpleton when we need him?
 

CSpringsDawg

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The CMA's are currently going on in Nashville and will be for the Super Regional. All the hotels are booked.
 

ScoobaDawg

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I thought it was bid basis.

It is... people are freaking out and not reading the written rules. Its why we got it over Clemson in 2007 also. Page 20

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018D1MBA_PreChampsMan_20180214.pdf

Regarding the super regional tournaments, with the criteria listed in Bylaw 31.1.3, the Division I Baseball Committee alsofollows the additional criteria below:
1. Super regional competition shall take place at on-campus sites or alternate sites approved by the Division I BaseballCommittee.

2. Prospective host institutions must submit a minimum financial guarantee of $35,000, which shall be 75 percent of theestimated net receipts as submitted on the hosting proposal (online proposed budget).
The $35,000 minimum applies toboth two-day and three-day super regional competitions.

3. Consideration for hosting shall be given to the higher seed if a suitable hosting proposal has been received (e.g., meetsfinancial guarantee and quality of facility criteria). If the higher seed has not submitted a proposal, the lower-seededteam will host if their proposal is acceptable.

4. If the super regional matchup is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals accordingto the site selection criteria (e.g., quality and availability of the facility, revenue potential and other available accommodations)to determine the host. If only one of the teams has submitted a proposal, that team shall host if the proposal is acceptable.

5. Lights are highly recommended at all prospective super regional sites. These lights should meet the NCAA standardsfound by clicking on the “NCAA Broadcast Manual and Policies” link at www.ncaa.com/media.
6. The committee will consider previous crowd control and behavior of the prospective host institution
 

615dawg

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Its not 1997 anymore when we were hosting as a 3 seed when we could just outbid everyone.

Here's the criteria:

1. If a national seed (1-8) is involved, they host.
2. If a national seed (9-16) is matched with a non-national seed, they host
3. If two non-national seeds are matched, the higher regional seed hosts
4. If two non-national seeds and they have the same regional seed (MSU-Vanderbilt, Washington-Fullerton), then the committee uses a variety of factors to determine the site.

This year:

Florida would host Auburn [1] but Auburn would host Florida Atlantic [3]
Georgia would host Texas Tech [1] but Texas Tech would host Duke [2]
Arkansas will host South Carolina [1]
Ole Miss would host Texas [1] but Texas would host Tennessee Tech [2]
Fullerton and Washington go to committee [4]
MSU and Vanderbilt go to committee [4]
North Carolina will host Stetston [1]
Oregon State will host Minnesota [1]

Here's another rule that goes into play in Gainesville.

If Florida and FAU do not start by 11:00 pm local time, Florida advances.
If they play and FAU wins and they cannot start Game 2 by 11:00 pm local time, FAU advances.

The higher seed advances unless there is head to head advantage. FAU and Florida have not played yet. There has to be 35 minutes between games at a minimum. We are getting close to there not being enough time to play two.
 
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WutheringDawg

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Supposed to be Whoever bids the most.

I think they did away with "buying bids."

Taken from the NCAA Postseason manual -

If the super regional matchup is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals accordingto the site selection criteria (e.g., quality and availability of the facility, revenue potential and other available accommodations)to determine the host. If only one of the teams has submitted a proposal, that team shall host if the proposal is acceptable
 

She Mate Me

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Its not 1997 anymore when we were hosting as a 3 seed when we could just outbid everyone.

Here's the criteria:

If a national seed (1-8) is involved, they host.
If a national seed (9-16) is matched with a non-national seed, they host
If two non-national seeds are matched, the higher regional seed hosts
If two non-national seeds and they have the same regional seed (MSU-Vanderbilt, Washington-Fullerton), then the committee uses a variety of factors to determine the site.

Well, let's hope one of those factors is having a fan base that will fill every available nook and cranny of our Stadium Under Construction for any Super Regional game.
 

thekimmer

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So what. A couple of thousand fans shouldn't be a problem**

The CMA's are currently going on in Nashville and will be for the Super Regional. All the hotels are booked.

There is no way vandy should get the bid.

1) We would double them up in attendance.

2) We beat out a national seed.

IB do your thing dude.
 

wsjmsu75

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All I can say is- if the committee at all considers which venue would offer the better attendance and atmosphere, it should not even be close. But then, the NCAA is probably still too clueless and indifferent to it's red headed step child sport to make the right decision.

ETA- they will probably just consider head to head results and location of the regular season series and give it to Vandy based on that. They are that stupid.
 
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RightOfCenter

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Well, let's hope one of those factors is having a fan base that will fill every available nook and cranny of our Stadium Under Construction for any Super Regional game.

Speaking of tickets, anyone know capacity of Dudy noble in its current state?
 

johnson86-1

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It is... people are freaking out and not reading the written rules. Its why we got it over Clemson in 2007 also. Page 20

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018D1MBA_PreChampsMan_20180214.pdf

Regarding the super regional tournaments, with the criteria listed in Bylaw 31.1.3, the Division I Baseball Committee alsofollows the additional criteria below:
1. Super regional competition shall take place at on-campus sites or alternate sites approved by the Division I BaseballCommittee.

2. Prospective host institutions must submit a minimum financial guarantee of $35,000, which shall be 75 percent of theestimated net receipts as submitted on the hosting proposal (online proposed budget).
The $35,000 minimum applies toboth two-day and three-day super regional competitions.

3. Consideration for hosting shall be given to the higher seed if a suitable hosting proposal has been received (e.g., meetsfinancial guarantee and quality of facility criteria). If the higher seed has not submitted a proposal, the lower-seededteam will host if their proposal is acceptable.

4. If the super regional matchup is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals accordingto the site selection criteria (e.g., quality and availability of the facility, revenue potential and other available accommodations)to determine the host. If only one of the teams has submitted a proposal, that team shall host if the proposal is acceptable.

5. Lights are highly recommended at all prospective super regional sites. These lights should meet the NCAA standardsfound by clicking on the “NCAA Broadcast Manual and Policies” link at www.ncaa.com/media.
6. The committee will consider previous crowd control and behavior of the prospective host institution

Seems like that would indicate it would definitely be in starkville unless there are construction related issues.
 

615dawg

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We got it in 2007 because the committee did a favor to the head of the committee. There was no way subjectively we should have hosted Clemson.
 

Shmuley

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Thanks for this interesting info, 615. I never knew the "weather delay" rule existed. I might soil myself if FAU somehow pulled off a win and then the clock ran out. Man, that would be awesome.
 

615dawg

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It got close enough last year in Hattiesburg for it to be discussed. We were in FAU's shoes. Of course we ended up getting to play two.

FAU-UF going to start at 5:45 ET. They basically have 4:30 to finish it. Can't have a big delay.
 

maroonmania

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I think they did away with "buying bids."

Taken from the NCAA Postseason manual -

If the super regional matchup is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals accordingto the site selection criteria (e.g., quality and availability of the facility, revenue potential and other available accommodations)to determine the host. If only one of the teams has submitted a proposal, that team shall host if the proposal is acceptable

Doesn't sound like it. What do you think "revenue potential" means other than the site that can produce the most dollars?
 

ScoobaDawg

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Its not 1997 anymore when we were hosting as a 3 seed when we could just outbid everyone.

Here's the criteria:

1. If a national seed (1-8) is involved, they host.
2. If a national seed (9-16) is matched with a non-national seed, they host
3. If two non-national seeds are matched, the higher regional seed hosts
4. If two non-national seeds and they have the same regional seed (MSU-Vanderbilt, Washington-Fullerton), then the committee uses a variety of factors to determine the site.

This year:

Florida would host Auburn [1] but Auburn would host Florida Atlantic [3]
Georgia would host Texas Tech [1] but Texas Tech would host Duke [2]
Arkansas will host South Carolina [1]
Ole Miss would host Texas [1] but Texas would host Tennessee Tech [2]
Fullerton and Washington go to committee [4]
MSU and Vanderbilt go to committee [4]
North Carolina will host Stetston [1]
Oregon State will host Minnesota [1]

Here's another rule that goes into play in Gainesville.

If Florida and FAU do not start by 11:00 pm local time, Florida advances.
If they play and FAU wins and they cannot start Game 2 by 11:00 pm local time, FAU advances.

The higher seed advances unless there is head to head advantage. FAU and Florida have not played yet. There has to be 35 minutes between games at a minimum. We are getting close to there not being enough time to play two.

First off... we were a 2 seed in 2007. Second. I linked from this years official rule book.
Please link where you found that criteria... it's not in the NCAA Playbook...
 
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PBRME

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I vote for a neutral field. How about Tallahassee?
 

QuaoarsKing

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Its not 1997 anymore when we were hosting as a 3 seed when we could just outbid everyone.

Here's the criteria:

1. If a national seed (1-8) is involved, they host.
2. If a national seed (9-16) is matched with a non-national seed, they host
3. If two non-national seeds are matched, the higher regional seed hosts
4. If two non-national seeds and they have the same regional seed (MSU-Vanderbilt, Washington-Fullerton), then the committee uses a variety of factors to determine the site.

This year:

Florida would host Auburn [1] but Auburn would host Florida Atlantic [3]
Georgia would host Texas Tech [1] but Texas Tech would host Duke [2]
Arkansas will host South Carolina [1]
Ole Miss would host Texas [1] but Texas would host Tennessee Tech [2]
Fullerton and Washington go to committee [4]
MSU and Vanderbilt go to committee [4]
North Carolina will host Stetston [1]
Oregon State will host Minnesota [1]

Here's another rule that goes into play in Gainesville.

If Florida and FAU do not start by 11:00 pm local time, Florida advances.
If they play and FAU wins and they cannot start Game 2 by 11:00 pm local time, FAU advances.

The higher seed advances unless there is head to head advantage. FAU and Florida have not played yet. There has to be 35 minutes between games at a minimum. We are getting close to there not being enough time to play two.

I'm pretty sure Regionals are allowed to go to Tuesday and the weather rule isn't in effect unless they can't get the last game started by 11 pm Tuesday?
 

ScoobaDawg

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I think they did away with "buying bids."

Taken from the NCAA Postseason manual -

If the super regional matchup is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals accordingto the site selection criteria (e.g., quality and availability of the facility, revenue potential and other available accommodations)to determine the host. If only one of the teams has submitted a proposal, that team shall host if the proposal is acceptable

It's just called a proposal instead of a bid. Per byrule used... It's all about how much the NCAA can make.. same as it's always been .


31.1.3.2.1 Criteria for Site Determination. The following criteria are to be used in the evaluation of sites for all competition in NCAA championships: (Revised: 11/1/01, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 8/7/14, 10/6/17)(a) Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;(b) Revenue potential (e.g., a financial guarantee or guideline that ensures fiscal responsibility and is appropriate for the particular event, as recommended by the governing sports committee and approved by the applicable sport oversight committee or the Competition Oversight Committee);(c) Attendance history and potential;(d) Geographical location; and(e) Championships operating costs.

 

Drebin

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I vote Oxford. We already own the stadium, and there's a decent chance it won't be getting used next weekend.
 

patdog

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“Revenue potential” means buying bids. There are other factors, but you can bet that one is more equal than all the rest.
 
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