How is Pope still here?

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Hurley had had meaningful success at lower levels and was building a program that was in dire straits before his arrival in the pre-portal pre-NIL era. Oats and Golden did remarkably well in their first two years relative to expectations and budget. Are you saying we should have the same expectations for basketball as UF and Bama?
Hurley won at a 62.3% at Wagner and a 57.9% rate at RI while Pope won at 57.9% rate at Utah St. and 67.9% at BYU. The fact Hurley won a conference title against weak competition (second place St Bonaventure never appeared in one AP poll the entire season) while Pope twice finished second to Gonzaga teams that finished AP #1 and #2 those years establishes nothing in Hurley's favor.
 
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Cal wasnt fired after 9 and 16 or losing to a 15 seed or even a 14 seed. I know its apples to oranges as Cal won a lot that matters. Pope never has won anything. But UK seems to take a while to pull the plug.

Due to injuries Pope was always gonna get a 3rd season. It is what it is.
Cal had equity and his buyout is why that was never going to happen.
 

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Hurley! Hurley! Hurley! Nobody gives a rat’s a** about Dan freaking Hurley. Hurley is coaching at UConn. Mark Pope is coaching at Kentucky. Mark Pope is not Dan Hurley. They’re two entirely different people with entirely different personalities.
 
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Hurley! Hurley! Hurley! Nobody gives a rat’s a** about Dan freaking Hurley. Hurley is coaching at UConn. Mark Pope is coaching at Kentucky. Mark Pope is not Dan Hurley. They’re two entirely different people with entirely different personalities.
You do realize your partner in misery was the one who brought up Hurley? He claimed Hurley had proven so much more than Pope in his 12 seasons prior to year 5 at UConn which is obviously false. Do you think Hurley got a personality transplant somewhere along the line that totally changed his fortunes?
 
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I just cannot understand why people hate Pope. He played basketball at UK and won at the highest level. He was a great ambassador for the program and appears to put everything he has into the job.

Like other college programs, NIL/TP have created parity for the field and the bluebloods are a thing of the past.

Support Coach Pope and the team!
Nobody hates Pope. We just don’t think he can get it done here and don’t want to waste years on the obvious decision.
 
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Compare Pope's SOS ratings, inherited roster and key injuries to the first two years of other UK coaches. Even at that he is ahead of Joe B's first two years at 33-21 61.1% and BCG's 40-27 59.7%. The mantra of Pope having more advantages than any previous UK coach is just what you believe because it supports your agenda and not at all factual.

You always point to Joe B and Hurley. Did they have the transfer portal or NIL? Could a team be flipped entirely in a year? No. It can now, you cannot compare the landscape even 5 years ago to what it is now.
 
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You always point to Joe B and Hurley. Did they have the transfer portal or NIL? Could a team be flipped entirely in a year? No. It can now, you cannot compare the landscape even 5 years ago to what it is now.
Did you actually read the post I responded to and the comparison it requested? Try to follow along. You are now the second poster to accuse me of bringing up Hurley when it was a member of your fellowship of the miserable who brought him up.

It is in no way established that the portal and NIL are the easy button for UK you have continued to insist them to be as I said.
 
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Golden and Hurley would have been fired if Firemarkpope was AD then. Nate Oats too. Pope has had a better start than any of them.
We had the worst AD in college ball and it wasnt close. No coach could have succeeded under Barnhart long term. Let’s give Pope a recruiting cycle out from under Mitch. Cal is the best recruiter in college ball and he was getting TyTy, Edward’s and the other highly rated flops. He is killing it at Arkansas with a bad AD. Shows you how bad Mitch was.
🐄 is killing it? Really?
 

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Hurley won at a 62.3% at Wagner and a 57.9% rate at RI while Pope won at 57.9% rate at Utah St. and 67.9% at BYU. The fact Hurley won a conference title against weak competition (second place St Bonaventure never appeared in one AP poll the entire season) while Pope twice finished second to Gonzaga teams that finished AP #1 and #2 those years establishes nothing in Hurley's favor.
You stop it with all your pesky facts.
FAAAAAR POPE!
 
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