I didn't say this game mattered nationally. I'm talking about how important it is to the program and Ash's future.
Ah yes. IMHO, if this game is lost, the fanbase will be calling for Ash’s head, but he’s going nowhere. What our fanbase refuses to recognize is that Kansas has made strides in performance, even if it doesn’t show in the W-L column. They are going to be fielding Beatty’s first recruiting class as seniors and their roster is growing in depth from Beatty’s year 1.
As usual, Rutgers fans give opponents all the credit in the world while marginalizing any improvements made by Ash.
There wasn't any evidence given in that post. It was the usual assumption that everyone gets better except Rutgers.
You're right again Bro. A win against Kansas is almost a must to become bowl eligible.
The over/under on season wins for Rutgers is 4. So the experts are predicting that Rutgers stays static. If you think that's "just silly," I will assume you're on the next flight to Vegas? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Ha, you QUESTIONED whether there were ANY models, I immediately sent one, and then you try to act like you were right by CAPITALIZING a word? LOL.
I guess you're right. Beatty has been sitting on his *** all this time.As usual, Rutgers fans give opponents all the credit in the world while marginalizing any improvements made by Ash.
I guess you're right. Ash has been sitting on his *** all this time.
See that quote from you. That's the problem with Rutgers fans. You don't realize or see you're knocking Rutgers subconsciously. We look to put others on a pedestal while searching any for a chink in the armor when it comes to Rutgers. Btw, how in the hell can you say you haven't seen any improvement from Ash and Rutgers. Comparing the last 3 seasons Ash has moved the bar a lot further than Kansas. Ash has continued to improve the number of wins for Rutgers each of the last 2 seasons. Exactly how many wins does KU have during the same period? Yeah, Beatty has KU on the fast track to success. Beatty was 0-12 his first season, then followed by a 2-10. Last year KU was 1-11. What are you talking about? Now, if you want to talk about the fundamentals of the game as a way to judge the teams, then I'm all in. That right up my alley.I guess you're right. Beatty has been sitting on his *** all this time.
In 2015, a Rutgers team that is arguably at least as talented as the current team took the devastated 0-12 Kansas team (Beatty's first year) behind the wood shed at HPSS. They were so overwhelmed they didn't know what hit them. Final margin of victory was (gasp!) 13 points. It is absolutely inconceivable that 2018 will be a competitive game in Lawrence.
It's not about giving them all the credit and marginalizing Ash's efforts. Both teams are in the doldrums. Beatty has a one year head start on Ash. They are the home team. Nobody's saying Kansas is ready to take on Bama. I actually expect Ash & company to take a narrow victory. But I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the home team emerges victorious and I definitely don't think Ash's career would be put on the line by such a loss because in reality, the two teams are pretty darn close in terms of performance. Yes, Kansas is dreadful, but I haven't seen a damn thing from our team to suggest that we're any better.
Why isn't a Rutgers fan allowed to knock Rutgers? As long as you're not personally attacking a coach or player or lying about them, I see nothing wrong with tough criticism. In my opinion, Ash deserves scrutiny after the Eastern Michigan debacle. That was unacceptable to me as a Rutgers fan.
"They are going to be fielding Beatty’s first recruiting class as seniors" is a fact, not an opinion.
You're right when it comes to criticism of the team, but the level at which it takes place seems a little harsh. Nothing is ever right at Rutgers. First, it's the coaching; then it was the lack of talent on the roster. I recall fans blaming the school for the lack of financial support while removing themselves from the equation.
Really? Analytics don't take into consideration the mindset of young men or the fact some things will change between now and game time. The impact of some of the young guys isn't factored into the equation because they are unknown. Football is more about emotions, match-ups, etc. than crunching numbers while sitting at a desk. Think about it, should Rutgers men's basketball team have beaten Indiana and Minnesota in the B1G Tournament? Analytics didn't see that one coming. It's not all about numbers.
All I've been saying is that it's a toss-up game. That's far more rational than suggesting that Rutgers, which couldn't beat Eastern Michigan at home last year, will waltz into Kansas and destroy the Jayhawks. There's no recent evidence to suggest Rutgers is capable of blowing out any FBS team, especially on the road.
I agree with you on the game being a toss-up, but the way you're OP came across I thought you were saying Rutgers was going to get blown out. Based on my experience, when teams are close in talent and expectations, the advantage goes to the visitors. It's easier to focus as a group on the road.
Yes, I am "trolling" by suggesting a road game against a Power 5 team isn't a guaranteed Rutgers blowout win. You nailed it.
It's a shame to think that this is really a "toss-up game" isn't it? IMO it's not a toss up, this is a game we must win in Year 3 of the Ash Era...unless we suffer some serious injuries before this game there is no excuse to lose to Kansas (even on the road)...of this is truly a bowl team like many of us believe it could be this isn't a toss up game this is a game we absolutely win...Indiana is a toss up game to me...
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