How do you keep score when you play golf?

[Moogy]

Why they home school him is completely irrelevant.

Of course it's not.

Taking kids out of school so the parents can force feed them Christianity is certainly more "abusive" than taking them out so they can focus on a singular talent?

What's your question? Both are abusive.

That barely registers on that scale.

What barely registers on what scale?

Hell, the argument could be made that sending him to an elite private school is more abusive.

Go ahead ... make that argument.

You don't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

You don't seem to be in the chandelier at all.

Kids should be encouraged to play as many sports, and have as many activities, as they can enjoy when they're younger. Pulling him out of other activities to focus on just one, at age 11, is borderline abusive. Then ripping him out of school, so he can focus more on this game ... that's definitely abusive. This kid is more likely to not develop, get injured, get burnt out, etc. than he is to have any meaningful success at golf ... and they're making him sacrifice his childhood to play this game.

 

[Jayb01]

Legitimate gimmes (for myself, otherwise questionable gimmes in match play/league if that's the way it's trending) and tour drops (or just the all year long leaf rule before everyone started calling it that). Otherwise completely official. My GHIN generally ranges from a 3 to a 5. My step kid plays varsity high school, as does his girlfriend, and our other main playing partner is our club assistant pro and family friend. We don't get competitive with each other and rarely keep a group card, but since everyone is pretty good we pretty much all know where we're at and will still casually discuss it periodically through the round, but everyone is playing their own game. Got a handful of less skilled people I play with for fun, and I play with the special lady friend a lot, and I don't care what they do, but I'm still always keeping a real score for myself.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

Kids should be encouraged to play as many sports, and have as many activities, as they can enjoy when they're younger. Pulling him out of other activities to focus on just one, at age 11, is borderline abusive. Then ripping him out of school, so he can focus more on this game ... that's definitely abusive. This kid is more likely to not develop, get injured, get burnt out, etc. than he is to have any meaningful success at golf ... and they're making him sacrifice his childhood to play this game.

Ahhh... I get why they say the things about you they say. You're an idiot. Go buy yourself a Maserati.

 

[Moogy]

Ahhh... I get why they say the things about you they say. You're an idiot. Go buy yourself a Maserati.

That was a very well reasoned argument on your part.

Already own one, sport. Don’t need another just yet.

 

[DailyBuck7]

I play winter rules in the fairway. Play the ball down in rough. Play a course where there is a tendency to lose balls in moderately thick rough. If I do lose a ball, I make a drop where I think the ball was and play it down. Putt all putts over 10 inches.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

That was a very well reasoned argument on your part.

Already own one, sport. Don’t need another just yet.

There’s no argument to be made, “sport”. Their child, HIS choice. The idea that home schooling is abusive somehow is the sole basis for your *****. How you could even imagine that allowing him to pursue a singular sport that he appears to be gifted at is somehow abusive might be the absolute stupidest thing you’ve ever posted. Go take a spin in your “Maserati” and cool off.

 

[Moogy]

There’s no argument to be made, “sport”. Their child, HIS choice. The idea that home schooling is abusive somehow is the sole basis for your *****. How you could even imagine that allowing him to pursue a singular sport that he appears to be gifted at is somehow abusive might be the absolute stupidest thing you’ve ever posted. Go take a spin in your “Maserati” and cool off.

HIS choice? He's 11. Yes, stage moms and dads with hopes and dreams for fame and fortune for their kids are often abusive. It's a cliche at this point, it happens so often. Those involved in youth sports, those involved in college and pro sports, and mental health practitioners, and even your run of the mill human off the street, will almost all agree that it's so much better for a child's well-being to encourage and allow them variety in their activities ... and to not upend their world, socially isolate them and forego a focus on a traditional academic path to pursue a dream about a game. At 11.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

HIS choice? He's 11. Yes, stage moms and dads with hopes and dreams for fame and fortune for their kids are often abusive. It's a cliche at this point, it happens so often. Those involved in youth sports, those involved in college and pro sports, and mental health practitioners, and even your run of the mill human off the street, will almost all agree that it's so much better for a child's well-being to encourage and allow them variety in their activities ... and to not upend their world, socially isolate them and forego a focus on a traditional academic path to pursue a dream about a game. At 11.

They encouraged him to continue to play soccer, dipshit. And there are plenty of kids who play that sport year-round to the exclusion of all others. HE chose to drop soccer and focus on golf because he loves to play and he’s better at that at 11 than you’ll likely ever be at anything in your life.

And before you even think about disputing that, you’re throwing judgement around like you own it - I’m just tossing some of your BS back your way. With absolutely zero knowledge of these parents or this child you have deemed from your high moral peak that he’s being “abused”. With no discernible argument for that, I might add. Again, that might be the stupidest f’n thing you’ve ever posted. Take. A. Knee.

 

[Moogy]

They encouraged him to continue to play soccer, dipshit. And there are plenty of kids who play that sport year-round to the exclusion of all others. HE chose to drop soccer and focus on golf because he loves to play and he’s better at that at 11 than you’ll likely ever be at anything in your life.

And before you even think about disputing that, you’re throwing judgement around like you own it - I’m just tossing some of your BS back your way. With absolutely zero knowledge of these parents or this child you have deemed from your high moral peak that he’s being “abused”. With no discernible argument for that, I might add. Again, that might be the stupidest f’n thing you’ve ever posted. Take. A. Knee.

I’m hoping your elementary school teaching wife is smarter than you, because, otherwise, that poor kid stands no shot of being educated at even an 8th grade level. You keep yelling illogically, then raising your hands in victory.

It’s a parent's job, in part, to guide their children to do what's in their best/better interests, and more importantly, teach them to avoid the bad decisions. Kids want to do lots of things that aren't good for them, and allowing them to do so, depending on the lasting impacts of those decisions, is poor parenting/abusive. Yeah, you sometimes have to let them make non-optimal decisions so they can learn from them, but not if the fallout from those decisions is too severe, or the negative impacts too long-lasting. If I'm taking a knee, it's to lament your inability to think logically. RIP, your prefrontal cortex.

An 11-year-old should never be dropping out of regular schooling to pursue a game, and only partaking in golf as his "extracurricular activity" (actually, given the focus, it's no longer "extra").

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

I’m hoping your elementary school teaching wife is smarter than you, because, otherwise, that poor kid stands no shot of being educated at even an 8th grade level. You keep yelling illogically, then raising your hands in victory.

It’s a parent's job, in part, to guide their children to do what's in their best/better interests, and more importantly, teach them to avoid the bad decisions. Kids want to do lots of things that aren't good for them, and allowing them to do so, depending on the lasting impacts of those decisions, is poor parenting/abusive. If I'm taking a knee, it's to lament your inability to think logically. RIP, your prefrontal cortex.

An 11-year-old should never be dropping out of regular schooling to pursue a game, and only partaking in golf as his "extracurricular activity" (actually, given the focus, it's no longer "extra").

You typed all of that and still have absolutely no argument against allowing him to pursue his passion - a passion at which he apparently has real talent. Parents pull their kids out of “regular schooling” for all kinds of reasons. Do you maintain a list of what’s allowable and what constitutes “abuse”? Let’s see it.

As for the rest of this stupidity, I guess you missed the part where they’re wealthy. Contrary to your moranic take, there are lots of extracurriculars that aren’t sports *gasp*. I know you’re shocked at the very idea. They pay for a piano teacher. He doesn’t care for it but he does it. They spend a month at their huge house in Maine every summer where they hike and he fishes with grandpa. They’ve been to countries all over the world. Every child should be so “abused”.

You’re an idiot who spouted off and doesn’t know when to STFU. For future reference, don’t ever go full TJ. It’s bad enough having one.

 

[Moogy]

You typed all of that and still have absolutely no argument against allowing him to pursue his passion - a passion at which he apparently has real talent. Parents pull their kids out of “regular schooling” for all kinds of reasons. Do you maintain a list of what’s allowable and what constitutes “abuse”? Let’s see it.

As for the rest of this stupidity, I guess you missed the part where they’re wealthy. Contrary to your moranic take, there are lots of extracurriculars that aren’t sports *gasp*. I know you’re shocked at the very idea. They pay for a piano teacher. He doesn’t care for it but he does it. They spend a month at their huge house in Maine every summer where they hike and he fishes with grandpa. They’ve been to countries all over the world. Every child should be so “abused”.

You’re an idiot who spouted off and doesn’t know when to STFU. For future reference, don’t ever go full TJ. It’s bad enough having one.

You still haven't made a logical counterargument. I'm waiting. Nothing about their financial status matters in this. I'm rich enough that I could buy a few golf courses, and have only my kids play on them, and pay for 24/7 golf instructors and teachers/tutors. But I would never think of doing that, because I'm not abusive to my kids.

It's also starting to sound like this kid isn't the product of just some random person you know ... that it may be the product of kinship.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

You still haven't made a logical counterargument. I'm waiting. Nothing about their financial status matters in this. I'm rich enough that I could buy a few golf courses, and have only my kids play on them, and pay for 24/7 golf instructors and teachers/tutors. But I would never think of doing that, because I'm not abusive to my kids.

Sure Jan.

As for some “counterargument”… there’s none to be made. Your entire premise rests on the absolutely idiotic premise that this kid is being “abused” because his parents aren’t forcing him to play soccer. There’s no counterargument to that kind of vapid stupidity. I suspect you know this by now but you’re in for that penny in search of the pound and don’t know how to just shut up.

I am truly and profoundly sorry for anyone who has to deal with you irl… especially your own children. They must be miserable. Again, you’re the one who set up the judgement rules here but I’m happy to play.

It's also starting to sound like this kid isn't the product of just some random person you know ... that it may be the product of kinship.

And this seals that idea that you have nothing left as you scramble to introduce more irrelevant stupidity. I wouldn’t recognize his parents if they were sitting in the room with me right now. I’d know the kid only because I’ve met him perhaps half a dozen times at the library where my wife works with him. Unfailingly polite kid. I like him. My wife, however, knows them much better than most of her parents since she often works with him at their home.

Never go full TJ. Ever.

 

[Moogy]

Sure Jan.

As for some “counterargument”… there’s none to be made. Your entire premise rests on the absolutely idiotic premise that this kid is being “abused” because his parents aren’t forcing him to play soccer. There’s no counterargument to that kind of vapid stupidity. I suspect you know this by now but you’re in for that penny in search of the pound and don’t know how to just shut up.

I am truly and profoundly sorry for anyone who has to deal with you irl… especially your own children. They must be miserable. Again, you’re the one who set up the judgement rules here but I’m happy to play.


And this seals that idea that you have nothing left as you scramble to introduce more irrelevant stupidity. I wouldn’t recognize his parents if they were sitting in the room with me right now. I’d know the kid only because I’ve met him perhaps half a dozen times at the library where my wife works with him. Unfailingly polite kid. I like him. My wife, however, knows them much better than most of her parents since she often works with him at their home.

Never go full TJ. Ever.

Still waiting for that logical counterargument ... you posted a false inference, I see ... but nothing valid and sound, as yet.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

Still waiting for that logical counterargument ... you posted a false inference, I see ... but nothing valid and sound, as yet.

lol… running away from your claim. Typical.

 

[Moogy]

lol… running away from your claim. Typical.

Standing right by my claim, waiting for it to be challenged by a logical argument.

So far you've tried "but they're rich!" "but they're nice!" "but he wants to do this!" ... all ridiculously irrelevant and unpersuasive.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

Standing right by my claim, waiting for it to be challenged by a logical argument.

So far you've tried "but they're rich!" "but they're nice!" "but he wants to do this!" ... all ridiculously irrelevant and unpersuasive.

Your claim is that it’s abusive that they don’t force him to play soccer. There’s no argument - logical or otherwise - against something that idiotic.

 

[SeaPA]

I count all shots, including penalty strokes, and I putt out everything. You only get to hear the greatest sound in golf 18 times per round, why pass on that?
I do typically roll the ball over, unless I have an upcoming tournament where I will be playing it down. If I do, I will try to get a few rounds in where I play it as it lies, to get used to hitting off of an imperfect lie.