How do they miss double dribble
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Ref was standing there on sideline watching the play from 10 ft away.
Absolutely no excuse to miss that call.
Absolutely no excuse to miss that call.
It was not what the powers of TV wanted for Monday night. They are giving a party Monday night and Auburn was not invited.
Actually missed it myself in the excitement.
Of course, I don't get paid to make that call.
Of course, I don't get paid to make that call.
The foul on the shot was legitimate but the low severity of the foul paired with the moment makes it a usual no call. I just wonder if they didn’t even realize at all they missed the double dribble because if they did you absolutely swallow the whistle at the end.
How do “they” miss 3, maybe 4 fouls during UK’s last possession in the E8? Yeah...
You just can't miss that call. It was right in front of him. There is NO way he didn't see it. So then there's only two options -- he didn't know the rule and is incompetent; or he chose to ignore it and is corrupt.
The official that called the foul putting Guy at the line is from Louisville. I don’t know the one who missed the double dribble. But you’re right, it’s shameless. That’s a middle school call, to decide a final four game!
I think they just didn’t realize it. Such a frantic situation. You’re anticipating Auburn fouling, time is winding down, Virginia is possibly going to try and shoot while being fouled, etc, so they flat out missed in imo.
NO ONE saw the double dribble...did you? It even looked like the Auburn player took a stab at the ball, now he never touched it, but that also complicated the call.
Plus, Karma sucks for a team with players that were illegally recruited by a coach who pleaded GUILTY and going to Federal Prison. The NCAA really missed that call!!
Plus, Karma sucks for a team with players that were illegally recruited by a coach who pleaded GUILTY and going to Federal Prison. The NCAA really missed that call!!
They did miss the double dribble, I knew as soon as it happened that he could pick the ball up but could not dribble the ball. A lot of the calls these ref's make, especially on the "and one's " are anticipation calls. I really believe the ref near the play, assumed the Auburn player was going to foul him. Oh well, there are calls missed in every game that is played, just like in the NFL, where they could call holding on each and every play. It did not go against us, so I will sleep well tonight..
That’s not what was going on at Auburn at all. Keep the facts the facts. The assistant coach was indicted for steering recruits to a certain agent once they left college. If anything, he was wanting players to LEAVE Auburn so he could get paid.
Watched the game at a little bar an hour from auburn.
Mostly just auburn fans who were cheering bc it was auburn.. not die hard basketball fans.. you could tell they werent the most basketball knowledgeable folk based on some of the things they screamed at the tv... every single one of them screamed double dribble.
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The officials missed nothing. College basketball is fixed.
Have you ever officiated? Because this is a fantastic post. I worked CBB for some time. And this is just an absolute great post. What people don't understand is the intensity of these games. As an official, you know Auburn is going to foul. You are anticipating this. You become so focused on not missing the foul, that you miss the DD. You are telling yourself---"don't miss the foul....don't miss the foul". Becasue last thing you want, is to miss an obvious foul, only to have UVA drop one in at the buzzer.
Sure it was an easy call.via rule----So to speak. But not an easy call given the situation. Hell I bet 99% of those watching at home, and in the arena, had no idea it happened, until it was brought up some minutes after the fact. ****, Pearl didn't even realize it.
Great post.
Same way they missed it when the kid from Wofford did it. They’re idiots. Can’t really say I feel sorry for Auburn though. They ended our season and kept us out of the Final Four so f**k em’.
You could ask how tyler picked up his second foul, against auburn, for getting kicked in the nuts.
Auburn grabbing his jersey before the double dribble. That’s a foul.
Exactly, the refs saw the auburn player touching, reaching in and expected a foul, it was NOT a “how did he miss that call situation. He was likley just looking for the foul and probably more concerned with a potential shooting foul issue if teh AU player fouled and the UVA kid went up for a shot
NOPE, facts are that he did it while they were still in college and that is a violation. And he helped steer ACTUAL money to players while at Auburn. FACTS ARE FACTS. Read his GUILTY plea.
They missed it because they have to call it live and 99% of people missed it live because it happened so fast. The same reason they missed the Auburn travel the possession before and the Auburn defender grabbing Guys jersey before the double dribble when he was trying to intentionally foul.
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off all the calls to miss, a double dribble has to be the least understandable. auburn’s few fans won’t forget that any time soon. really with 5 seconds left and a championship on line that has to be one of the worst missed calls out there.
[QUOTE=Sure it was an easy call.via rule----So to speak. But not an easy call given the situation. Hell I bet 99% of those watching at home, and in the arena, had no idea it happened, until it was brought up some minutes after the fact. ****, Pearl didn't even realize it.
Sorry, but this is such a straw man argument. It doesn't matter if the people watching at home or in the arena knew what was happening. That's not their job.
There were two officials looking DIRECTLY at the play; one one on each side of the court. These are supposed to be the best of the best; working on the biggest stage in the biggest games. If they don't know the rule -- or perhaps can't think clearly enough in that situation, as you suggest -- they have ZERO business on that floor.
Sorry, but this is the equivalent of a coach not knowing the score of the game or how many timeouts he has. This is an inexcusable error for someone whose only responsibility is to enforce the rules on the court, and double-dribble is perhaps the most basic rule and easiest call to make on the floor.
Sorry, but this is such a straw man argument. It doesn't matter if the people watching at home or in the arena knew what was happening. That's not their job.
There were two officials looking DIRECTLY at the play; one one on each side of the court. These are supposed to be the best of the best; working on the biggest stage in the biggest games. If they don't know the rule -- or perhaps can't think clearly enough in that situation, as you suggest -- they have ZERO business on that floor.
Sorry, but this is the equivalent of a coach not knowing the score of the game or how many timeouts he has. This is an inexcusable error for someone whose only responsibility is to enforce the rules on the court, and double-dribble is perhaps the most basic rule and easiest call to make on the floor.
Sirmons and Kimble are incompetent.
That is all.
That is all.
Yes, to answer your first question. However I can't give the officials a pass in this situation. Staring down the dribbler is never a good idea so they properly focused on the defense given it's a take-foul situation...but if you're doing that, you clearly know the defender wasn't involved in the deflection/interrupted dribble, so it shouldn't be that tough to get the illegal dribble after he picks it up and starts another. Secondly, they also missed the defender grabbing the UVA jersey before the player committed the illegal dribble....so being focused on refereeing the defense didn't help them there.
I understand officials aren't expecting a double dribble at that level of play, but Sirmons and Kimble both had great looks at the play and missed it. The fact that most of the fans didn't notice is irrelevant. They're not trained, experienced officials.
Never officiated at a high level, but ran a college basketball arena and worked in college athletics, so been around a lot of college basketball.
No doubt they missed a DD by Jerome in backcourt, but they also missed the AU player practically pulling his jersey off when he was trying to get to the ball after dribbling it off his calf. Poetic justice imo, a proven cheater's team with players recruited by an assistant coach heading to prison for handing out shoe company money. Only way AU's loss would have been more enjoyable would have been in the finals. They cheated their way to a NC in football with Scam, and came very close to cheating their way to one in basketball.
The standard referee / NCAA excuse coming: not severe enough to impact the play or the moment.
All these refs have an agenda before they start the game. You can’t tell me Sirmons and Shows are deemed excellent referees.
When biased Higgins works multiple F4s and is deemed one of the best?
All these refs have an agenda before they start the game. You can’t tell me Sirmons and Shows are deemed excellent referees.
When biased Higgins works multiple F4s and is deemed one of the best?
Definitely missed the first grab by the AU defender...which perversely, would have probably helped Auburn if they had called it. The throw in would have been well in the backcourt which would have made it potentially harder to get a quick pass to a shooter...although granted would have had a couple more seconds to execute the play.