How did we miss out on this guy?

[scotchie42]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7ersFs6xs

 

[mstateglfr]

He went to Troy and didnt play, transferred to NW Mississippi CC and did great, but clearly wasnt well thought of by basically anyone since he went to East Carolina and had a 3-14 record over 2 seasons with mediocre stats.

Year	Team	GP	Passing
Record	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yards	TDs	Int	Passer Rating
2016	East Carolina	7	1–6	119	202	58.9	1,347	8	4	124.0
2017	East Carolina	10	2–8	174	304	57.2	2,140	16	7	129.1
2018	Washington State	12	10–2	433	613	70.6	4,477	36	9	148.4
Total	29	13–16	726	1119	64.9	7,964	60	20	138.8

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If MSU missed out of the guy, then basically everyone missed out on the guy.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Mike Leach has a knack for making mediocre QBs look good.

 

[scotchie42]

I know all of that. That was a rhetorical question, I guess. It is just that all of that talent was there and nobody but Mike Leach saw it, I guess. It just seems like WSU had a HOOT this season.

 

[scotchie42]

Aesop's classical "sour grapes" reply. If I can't reach them then I am sure they were too sour in the first place.
I just find it hard to believe that this kid was ever a mediocre QB. More like an overlooked. under evaluated QB.
If you remember Jerry Rice played his High School football in Crawford, MS, about 30 miles south of Starkville and he used to work out at MSU with other kids in the summer.
Yet his talent was never discovered. It happens...just saying.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Nobody missed on him. Everybody knew about him when he came out of high school, JUCO and when he wanted to transfer. His possible transfer to Alabama was well documented. Multiple teams had multiple opportunities to sign him.

In a different life, maybe JoMo could have taken him, moved Fitzgerald to WR (his true NFL position) and we'd be in the playoff right now. Such is our reality.

Please remember that Washington State still did not even win their division. They lost to a bad USC team and a Washington team (at home) that lost to Auburn who we handled. I think it's safe to say that we would handle Washington State as well.

This is not meant to demean Minshew, I'm all about Brandon HS representin' and I loved watching him this year. I hope he gets a shot at the NFL and makes it. But I'm not going to demonize our coaching staff for "missing" on him. That's idiotic.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Sour grapes? Not really.

 

[scotchie42]

NOT "DEMONIZING" anybody. Just saying that evaluating talent is probably more art than science.

 

[seshomoru]

You're just a woman with a small brain.

It's science.

 

[HD6]

Does he look like a quarterback that could handle 20 plus carries a game? That's the main reason Mullen wouldn't have gone after him.

Ole Miss definitely should have made a push, but he in no way fit what we wanted to do offensively.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Evaluating QB is most definitely in the eye of the behold..... err.... team needs.

We always talk about QB measurements that fit today’s NFL at 6’4”- 6’5”, 220- 230 lbs. and historically, even those of us on these message boards, prefer our coaches recruit and sign that same size guy who is a dual threat QB.

Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and a couple of other guys defy those necessary “tools”.

The Heisman winner is 5’10” maybe with lifts. And might tip the scales at 185. Tua and Jalen are not some physical specimen with Cam Newton size & skills.**

All that to say, it can still be a crap shoot.

Will Grier not the same guy he was at Florida. Francois yet to be all he was cracked up to be. Kelly Bryant best our by a freshman, but Justin Fields couldn’t beat out Fromm. Look at the QB classes that Sumlin had after Manziel. 2 transferred out.

As a fan of Pearl, I saw minshew play 3 years for Brandon. He had the tools and some of the measurables to be a DII SIGNEE, but chose Juco.

But look at Pearl’s QB’s in ‘16 (6a runner up), ‘17(6a champion), 5’9” 165 lbs, and in ‘18 a 10th grader 5’6” 130 lb. (6a South semi-final game). Nobody is going to sign those guys as a QB.