How are we going to be competitive?

PSUForever

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I have thought about this and just don't see a path where we are even a top half or even top 12 B10 Team over the next 3 years and probably longer.

-Our NIL is ranked around #25 at about $28 million thereabouts according to NYT.
-Just doing rough math for us to overhaul our roster through the portal, invest in the handful of guys we have to keep and spend for say a top 12 '28 class that is about $40 million to $50 million in NIL. Yes, you need that much to compete in modern cfb.
-We have shown we are essentially non competitive in the HS recruiting front with the #24 2027 HS class and now worse with the Wood decommit.
-I have not seen anything to tell me Campbell is as good a recruiter as BGJ. Yes I know getting the '27 class was tough with all that happened but whether it is money or Campbell not having relationships, the results are the results and why will this significantly change?
-Campbell has shown absolutely nothing with his coaching......1) Both coordinators are shaky at best; 2) Becht is a trainwreck and he has coached him for 4 years; 3) The O-Line is a joke; 4) The running game is a joke; 5) The D-Line, wait what D-Line? They are invisible; 6) We don't play with any physicality or toughness and that includes mental toughness; 7) I see no in-game adjustments to counter what the other team is doing; 8) Campbell seems way too conservative for the modern game of football.

Yes, yes, yes I understand we have no talent but there are serious concerns with the coaching now as well.

So let's summarize:

We need a huge infusion of NIL to overhaul the team but how the heck is that going to happen because we have a lousy AD who can't fundraise that well.

We have a head coach and staff that don't
look that good from recruiting to talent development to game strategy to game management.

The '26 class is non existent. The '27 class is average and leaking water. We don't have the money to get a really good '28 class.

We don't have the money to fill all the holes we need to. We have no talent sans Howard and Dixon and a couple other guys. Is there a league where we can play three on three ball?

So what possibly can interrupt this doom loop?

Nothing really but try to make due as best we can. I would say the biggest thing we can do is go all out and get the best QB possible in the portal. That is the most important position. Build around a great QB. Maybe a great QB can steal us a few wins. I know it is a bit of an unknown trying to do that in the portal but I see that as the biggest priority.

After that start filling in where we can. D line I would say is 2nd. Then probably linebacker. Then a RB. We have to improve on defense and need to be able to run the ball for more than 30 yds a game. Maybe...maybe we can get elite guys at those 4 positions and then see what if any money we have left over.

You have to fire Kraft if he can't really get the dollars flowing with NIL and do it in the next 9 months. A new AD can infuse life and energy into the program.

As for Campbell? I will be patient but early returns are not good. He should fire the O-Line coach. What about Mouser? Wouldn't mind him being gone either. He has to make huge inroads with recruiting in our natural areas of PA, NJ, VA, MD, DE.

Also Campbell was billed as coaching 3 star type guys up. Well, do this then because he hasn't. And get an identity for this program that is built on physical and mental toughness. Start walking the talk.
 

PSU Soupy 615

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Kraft has to go and shake money from the Alums. We need the NIL to go and get a roster for next year.......or this becomes at best a 4 year turnaround project.

We need overhaul at QB, RB, OL, DT, DE, LB, with additional help at WR and maybe TE if the trio goes pro.

We spent a bunch of money on a stadium makeover.......should have spent the money on a team make over.
 

JerseyLion

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Aug 29, 2001
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We need one of two things to happen:

1. A whale contributes a ton of $ to the NIL fund
2. There is some kind of across the board salary cap for college football

Absent 1 or 2, we become Nebraska.
 

Steve JG

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Mar 25, 2024
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We need one of two things to happen:

1. A whale contributes a ton of $ to the NIL fund
2. There is some kind of across the board salary cap for college football

Absent 1 or 2, we become Nebraska.
more like Purdue or Rutgres.........
 

PSUForever

All-Conference
Feb 17, 2007
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Kraft has to go and shake money from the Alums. We need the NIL to go and get a roster for next year.......or this becomes at best a 4 year turnaround project.

We need overhaul at QB, RB, OL, DT, DE, LB, with additional help at WR and maybe TE if the trio goes pro.

We spent a bunch of money on a stadium makeover.......should have spent the money on a team make over.
Huge strategic error by Kraft. Let's do all this to the stadium while letting the on field product waste away.

Make it a $350 million project and there you have $350 million. Does the average fan care about stadium suites and this other bs we are paying for in this stadium like better bathrooms? Who the eff cares what the bathroom is like in the freaking stadium?!
 

rigi19041

Junior
Apr 1, 2026
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I have thought about this and just don't see a path where we are even a top half or even top 12 B10 Team over the next 3 years and probably longer.

-Our NIL is ranked around #25 at about $28 million thereabouts according to NYT.
-Just doing rough math for us to overhaul our roster through the portal, invest in the handful of guys we have to keep and spend for say a top 12 '28 class that is about $40 million to $50 million in NIL. Yes, you need that much to compete in modern cfb.
-We have shown we are essentially non competitive in the HS recruiting front with the #24 2027 HS class and now worse with the Wood decommit.
-I have not seen anything to tell me Campbell is as good a recruiter as BGJ. Yes I know getting the '27 class was tough with all that happened but whether it is money or Campbell not having relationships, the results are the results and why will this significantly change?
-Campbell has shown absolutely nothing with his coaching......1) Both coordinators are shaky at best; 2) Becht is a trainwreck and he has coached him for 4 years; 3) The O-Line is a joke; 4) The running game is a joke; 5) The D-Line, wait what D-Line? They are invisible; 6) We don't play with any physicality or toughness and that includes mental toughness; 7) I see no in-game adjustments to counter what the other team is doing; 8) Campbell seems way too conservative for the modern game of football.

Yes, yes, yes I understand we have no talent but there are serious concerns with the coaching now as well.

So let's summarize:

We need a huge infusion of NIL to overhaul the team but how the heck is that going to happen because we have a lousy AD who can't fundraise that well.

We have a head coach and staff that don't
look that good from recruiting to talent development to game strategy to game management.

The '26 class is non existent. The '27 class is average and leaking water. We don't have the money to get a really good '28 class.

We don't have the money to fill all the holes we need to. We have no talent sans Howard and Dixon and a couple other guys. Is there a league where we can play three on three ball?

So what possibly can interrupt this doom loop?

Nothing really but try to make due as best we can. I would say the biggest thing we can do is go all out and get the best QB possible in the portal. That is the most important position. Build around a great QB. Maybe a great QB can steal us a few wins. I know it is a bit of an unknown trying to do that in the portal but I see that as the biggest priority.

After that start filling in where we can. D line I would say is 2nd. Then probably linebacker. Then a RB. We have to improve on defense and need to be able to run the ball for more than 30 yds a game. Maybe...maybe we can get elite guys at those 4 positions and then see what if any money we have left over.

You have to fire Kraft if he can't really get the dollars flowing with NIL and do it in the next 9 months. A new AD can infuse life and energy into the program.

As for Campbell? I will be patient but early returns are not good. He should fire the O-Line coach. What about Mouser? Wouldn't mind him being gone either. He has to make huge inroads with recruiting in our natural areas of PA, NJ, VA, MD, DE.

Also Campbell was billed as coaching 3 star type guys up. Well, do this then because he hasn't. And get an identity for this program that is built on physical and mental toughness. Start walking the talk.
Answer: we are not.


Should have thought about that before Franklin was run out of town.
 

psu0408

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Oct 28, 2004
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Using this as a reference: https://thenilstandard.com/football/teams/penn-state?view=portal. Not sure how accurate this is, but the glass half full view is that the lion's share of the portal revenue was spent on "graduating" seniors. For those with eligibility, you can free up $3.8m by cutting Eskildsen, Kemajou, Buhr, M. Neal and McPherson. Not sure what Tatsch and Granville are being paid, but given their injury history, it might be time to move on.
 

Binder74

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Nov 1, 2021
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Huge strategic error by Kraft. Let's do all this to the stadium while letting the on field product waste away.

Make it a $350 million project and there you have $350 million. Does the average fan care about stadium suites and this other bs we are paying for in this stadium like better bathrooms? Who the eff cares what the bathroom is like in the freaking stadium?!
I was ok with the troughs.
 

Binder74

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Nov 1, 2021
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Shake down Pegula. Cut some sports. Have the local businesses step up and start giving away perks for recruits
How about a kickback from the State College hotel establishment? They're going to take a major hit if people stop coming to the games and booking the $3,000 hotel rooms.
 
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taryn

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I have thought about this and just don't see a path where we are even a top half or even top 12 B10 Team over the next 3 years and probably longer.

-Our NIL is ranked around #25 at about $28 million thereabouts according to NYT.
-Just doing rough math for us to overhaul our roster through the portal, invest in the handful of guys we have to keep and spend for say a top 12 '28 class that is about $40 million to $50 million in NIL. Yes, you need that much to compete in modern cfb.
-We have shown we are essentially non competitive in the HS recruiting front with the #24 2027 HS class and now worse with the Wood decommit.
-I have not seen anything to tell me Campbell is as good a recruiter as BGJ. Yes I know getting the '27 class was tough with all that happened but whether it is money or Campbell not having relationships, the results are the results and why will this significantly change?
-Campbell has shown absolutely nothing with his coaching......1) Both coordinators are shaky at best; 2) Becht is a trainwreck and he has coached him for 4 years; 3) The O-Line is a joke; 4) The running game is a joke; 5) The D-Line, wait what D-Line? They are invisible; 6) We don't play with any physicality or toughness and that includes mental toughness; 7) I see no in-game adjustments to counter what the other team is doing; 8) Campbell seems way too conservative for the modern game of football.

Yes, yes, yes I understand we have no talent but there are serious concerns with the coaching now as well.

So let's summarize:

We need a huge infusion of NIL to overhaul the team but how the heck is that going to happen because we have a lousy AD who can't fundraise that well.

We have a head coach and staff that don't
look that good from recruiting to talent development to game strategy to game management.

The '26 class is non existent. The '27 class is average and leaking water. We don't have the money to get a really good '28 class.

We don't have the money to fill all the holes we need to. We have no talent sans Howard and Dixon and a couple other guys. Is there a league where we can play three on three ball?

So what possibly can interrupt this doom loop?

Nothing really but try to make due as best we can. I would say the biggest thing we can do is go all out and get the best QB possible in the portal. That is the most important position. Build around a great QB. Maybe a great QB can steal us a few wins. I know it is a bit of an unknown trying to do that in the portal but I see that as the biggest priority.

After that start filling in where we can. D line I would say is 2nd. Then probably linebacker. Then a RB. We have to improve on defense and need to be able to run the ball for more than 30 yds a game. Maybe...maybe we can get elite guys at those 4 positions and then see what if any money we have left over.

You have to fire Kraft if he can't really get the dollars flowing with NIL and do it in the next 9 months. A new AD can infuse life and energy into the program.

As for Campbell? I will be patient but early returns are not good. He should fire the O-Line coach. What about Mouser? Wouldn't mind him being gone either. He has to make huge inroads with recruiting in our natural areas of PA, NJ, VA, MD, DE.

Also Campbell was billed as coaching 3 star type guys up. Well, do this then because he hasn't. And get an identity for this program that is built on physical and mental toughness. Start walking the talk.
BUT WE HAVE A BIG STADIUM !!!
 
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JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws

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How about a kickback from the State College hotel establishment? They're going to take a major hit if people stop coming to the games and booking the $3,000 hotel rooms.

Oh but Krafty The Clown made such a wonderful decision when he fired Franklin - nuked the entire freaking franchise and PAID Campbell and his recruits more than Franklin and his teams in the process. Paying MORE for LESS, who knew Krafty had such a brilliant plan to reach "Excellence" and "Championship Football"???? I wonder if his business card reads "Genius" like Wile E. Coyotes card?
 
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