How and why would UM get a pass from the NCAA?...

[thekimmer]

Just let me say I am enjoying every minute of this whole saga as it slowly and painfully unfolds. With that said, there has been speculation that somehow the bears will beat the rap and get off scot free. I really don't see a path forward for that outcome for several reasons.

1) Expenditure of resources for the NCAA. They have spent a lot of time and money investigating this case. There is no way they are going to spend that kind of coin just to come back and say hey 'everything's good'.

2) Its just ole missy. Just a small school in a small town in a small state. A school that has a lingering racial stigma in a state that the NCAA has a thing about its flag. A school that has some level of infamy but has not been relevant in college football since integration. This is a tailor made opportunity for the NCAA to flex their muscle and show how tough they are. They have a program in the noose that has enough notoriety to catch media attention but not enough fan appeal to cause them a lot of grief. (Kinda reminds me of SMU)

3) Face saving. There are now numerous media published events. Not rumors or inuendo. They have a highly touted player who was the centerpiece of a recruiting class that was way too good to be true admitting on world wide television that his coaches game him money and a text thread saying the same thing that was verified to be true by the university. The NCAA would look even more like bumbling fools if they didn't drop the hammer.

I can't think of a single credible reason why they would skate. Maybe I'm missing something. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[tatedog]

You want to know the real reason Ole Miss thinks they are going to get away with it? It's the same answer any convicted criminal will tell you: because they did get away with it for a very long time.

 

[missouridawg]

I'm expecting

Just let me say I am enjoying every minute of this whole saga as it slowly and painfully unfolds. With that said, there has been speculation that somehow the bears will beat the rap and get off scot free. I really don't see a path forward for that outcome for several reasons.

1) Expenditure of resources for the NCAA. They have spent a lot of time and money investigating this case. There is no way they are going to spend that kind of coin just to come back and say hey 'everything's good'.

2) Its just ole missy. Just a small school in a small town in a small state. A school that has a lingering racial stigma in a state that the NCAA has a thing about its flag. A school that has some level of infamy but has not been relevant in college football since integration. This is a tailor made opportunity for the NCAA to flex their muscle and show how tough they are. They have a program in the noose that has enough notoriety to catch media attention but not enough fan appeal to cause them a lot of grief. (Kinda reminds me of SMU)

3) Face saving. There are now numerous media published events. Not rumors or inuendo. They have a highly touted player who was the centerpiece of a recruiting class that was way too good to be true admitting on world wide television that his coaches game him money and a text thread saying the same thing that was verified to be true by the university. The NCAA would look even more like bumbling fools if they didn't drop the hammer.

I can't think of a single credible reason why they would skate. Maybe I'm missing something. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Something near what USCw got. Anything more would get me worked up like Forrest Gump being touched by the magical hands of Jenny.

 

[ShrubDog]

This is why nothing will happen, says the Col.

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[Drebin]

Something near what USCw got. Anything more would get me worked up like Forrest Gump being touched by the magical hands of Jenny.

Lots of people have been saying look to USC for an idea on sanctions in this case. Of course, that was BEFORE the NFL draft, too.

 

[tatedog]

Speaking of the draft, is there any chance that they can ask for a second extension for the response based on what happened at the draft and the announcement of their own internal investigation into it?

 

[coach66]

Unless the NCAA botches things like they did Miami then I think the best the

Rebs can hope for is no show causes, loss of 12 schollies, and no bowl bans with 2-3 years probation. I still believe they are on a
course to receive sanctions very similar to USC.

To answer your question why they think what they think, then answer yourself the question why do they think the way they think on most
any issue? They see themselves much differently than the way others see them, always have, always will.

 

[121Josey]

How is that different than the current talking points? It's not even realistic.

Unless the NCAA botches things like they did Miami then I think the best the Rebs can hope for is no show causes, loss of 12 schollies, and no bowl bans with 2-3 years probation.

9over3ku

 

[Drebin]

Speaking of the draft, is there any chance that they can ask for a second extension for the response based on what happened at the draft and the announcement of their own internal investigation into it?

Well, they could probably request it, but a couple of things come to mind:

- There will be a media shitstorm if they get another extension - it will be another hit to public perception
- Whether they would get it or not would depend on whether this was already in the NOA. If this is a new revelation, it wouldn't be related to their response to the original NOA.

 

[mcdawg22]

It seems odd that Chris Jones follows that.

 

[grimedawg1]

Lying

Going by recent history, it seems the NCAA gets the most upset about being lied to. I would be surprised if the NCAA has not previously asked both Ole Miss and Tunsil straight up if ANY money has been exchanged. I would also be surprised if they gave anything but an unequivocal "No" as their answer. Now there is a public statement that money did change hands - and it looks like actual staff members were involved. I don't have any idea what other evidence the NCAA may have, but the pretty strong indication is that the NCAA has been lied to, and it's been revealed in a very public way.

 

[jb1020]

You have to think USCw plus years of academic fraud.

I'm no expert on what all USCw got in trouble for, but academic fraud has to be the a major issue, and they are guilty there. I don't even think they dispute that anymore. Parlay that with Pay for play, momma's in free houses, embarrassing off field issues, blatant lies to recruits about the severity of the allegations before their big recruiting weekend and having 2 other coaches hired by Bjork have already been fired for breaking the rules.

And this is just the stuff that has come out in the public eye without the NCAA's help, except the fraud.

The NCAA has to be chomping at the bit to save face. This is their chance to take down a SEC team that's not a Bama, UGA, LSU or Florida type. OM really adds nothing to the SEC.

I expect the NCAA to completely cripple that program. 15 years from now it will be referred to as the "modern day death penalty."

 

[Lou3000]

Ole Miss (or Mississippi State) truly are the perfect candidates for a massive penalty. We've had some recent success so we're all on the national radar, but everyone hates Mississippi right now (LGBTQ law and still defiantly waving the Stars and Bars). Our alumni networks don't really have much power outside of the State, so it isn't like there would be a significant backlash. You could probably death penalty one of the programs and it would not ruffle too many feathers. Meanwhile, the NCAA gets to tell people about the time that they harshly penalized academic fraud, amateurism violations, agent affiliations, and off the field issues all at one time.

 

[MarkDallas]

Rebs can hope for is no show causes, loss of 12 schollies, and no bowl bans with 2-3 years probation. I still believe they are on a course to receive sanctions very similar to USC.

I would like to think there will be a post-season ban. Ohio State got that and their infractions were less serious than what UM is accused of. Or am I mis-remembering the OSU deal?

 

[jb1020]

Pretty sure OSU got hit for trading jerseys and what not for cash/tattoos

and signed some autographs for some cash. Tresell admitted to knowing about it.

No fraud or pay for play or benefits directly from coaches were involved.

Plus the players involved only got a 5 game suspension.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Rebs can hope for is no show causes, loss of 12 schollies, and no bowl bans with 2-3 years probation. I still believe they are on a
course to receive sanctions very similar to USC.

To answer your question why they think what they think, then answer yourself the question why do they think the way they think on most
any issue? They see themselves much differently than the way others see them, always have, always will.

You're just jealous!***

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

USC got a 2 year bowl ban, 15 initial scholarship reductions and 10 each year for 3 years.
Not sure if the initial 15 was part of the 10 in the first year, assuming it had to be so 35 total scholarships over a 3 year period.
If UM got just this in fball I would be thrilled but they may get more.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Bribery. Straight up Bribery is the only way that Ole Miss skates away from this with ZERO penalties.

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