Honest Moorhead question

MarkDallas

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First of all, I'm excited about the hire; I'm 100% behind the coach; I'm psyched for the future. That being said, is anyone else worried that this offense is a little gimmicky? Someone who knows more about football maybe can explain why it is or isn't.

I just get suspicious when people start talking about innovations, etc regarding offense. Sometimes those guys set the world on fire for a couple of years and then the defense catches up. (Like Joe Lee Dunn on the other side of the ball.)
 

AFDawg

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Moorhead’s system isn’t a single gimmick. He’s talked about scouring other offenses for their best traits and adapting them to his players.
 

Strike.sixpack

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He has merged spread concepts and a ton of RPO's with a legitimate west coast passing concepts with both based on reading the defense as to the option for the skill players. The package is actually very innovative
 

patdog

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The forward pass was once considered gimmicky. It’s the nature of football. Offenses innovate & over time defenses adjust. Then the offenses have to adjust again. I think Moorhead will be more willing to react to the defenses starting to catch on to our offense than Don was.
 

BiscuitEater

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From the limited amount I know, think the QB makes most important read BEFORE the ball is snapped. QB takes what the D gives before RPO comes into play.
 

ShrubDog

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The biggest gimmick just left town. DM ran our QB’s into the ground.

3rd and Mullen
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Watch the Penn State/Michigan game someone posted the other day. The only real gimmick I saw was the second offensive play, which was pure genius.
 

engie

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First of all, I'm excited about the hire; I'm 100% behind the coach; I'm psyched for the future. That being said, is anyone else worried that this offense is a little gimmicky? Someone who knows more about football maybe can explain why it is or isn't.

I just get suspicious when people start talking about innovations, etc regarding offense. Sometimes those guys set the world on fire for a couple of years and then the defense catches up. (Like Joe Lee Dunn on the other side of the ball.)

It's an innovation in who and how the QB reads. It's a gimmick in the same way as the read option. And, yes, if you torch them a couple of times, defensive coordinators will figure out how to slow it down -- and it goes back to being a straight talent equation in the same way the average spread offense has.
 

MaroonNation

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He has merged spread concepts and a ton of RPO's with a legitimate west coast passing concepts with both based on reading the defense as to the option for the skill players. The package is actually very innovative

Watching their YouTube videos, their QB made sick hand-offs. Dude had the ball out of his hands by the time the nose guard connected with anyone. It’s going to be timing crazy.
 

thatsbaseball

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I have one and only one concern about Joe

We need Franklin to continue to be successful at PSU.
 

HumpDawgy

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I hope he attacks more vertically especially since that is Grantham's achilles heel. QB will take hits, but we need to hit the big plays when they come to Vegas next year. I want Don to crap his blue and orange jorts.
 

coach66

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I love Grantham like I loved Joe Lee Dunn but let's face it there are some scary

similarities.
 

Shamoan

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if anything is true, he appears to make a defense defend the whole field. Penn St was a top 30 offense two years in a row because of this man. and i LOVED his spiel about execution and perfection during his presser. THAT is what we lacked under mullen....mullen talked about execution, but it disappeared entirely at times. when you beat the big dogs, you have to execute.
 

fader2103

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The Run Pass Option (RPOs) is nothing more than an option football as such as the triple option. Think of it this way, kinda explaining as a triple option concept.
Dive guy- Run guy
Your Keep is the same with your qb
Your pitch guy is the WR.

Now in RPOs you have 2 ways to run it.
Presnap read- This counts how many men are in the box, a rule of thumb is 7 + in the box is usually a pass.
Post Snap read- your reading a defender once the play starts to develop and then you decide where to go with the football.

What your trying to do is cause a player on defense to come in conflict, meaning if he does this you do this, and vice versa.

Hope this makes a little more sense.
 

Dawgzilla

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Joe will probably leave us for the Big 10 at some point, but that will only be if he is successful here. I'm all for it...get us some good seasons and show that Mullen isn't the only coach who can win a couple games here, and I don't care if he moves back closer to home.
 
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