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Yes, because you can’t watch for both of those kind of predators
Those kind of predators are already known by word of mouth of the students, but ignored by adults cause everyone knows Bill is a great guy to have a beer with. And the English teacher with the purple hair gives students great book recommendations.
 

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The system of public universities in the United States is the envy of the world.
Amen! With the exception of the cost.

In all my years teaching I have sent two students to college/university outside of the USA. Two.

But think how many people from other countries come to America to study.
 

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Those kind of predators are already known by word of mouth of the students, but ignored by adults cause everyone knows Bill is a great guy to have a beer with. And the English teacher with the purple hair gives students great book recommendations.
Really? You think so?
 
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Watch out for the English teacher with the purple hair, but not the math teacher looking down your daughter's blouse.
Another example of a teacher not being able to stay on topic
 

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But I acknowledge your point. It's not for me but I certainly support people that do it. I guess I must have found the perfect little school because I don't have the problems that other people have. But then again I've had the older kids come home plenty of times in the last few years and talk about how teachers were discussing politics with kids, both parties, trying to influence them. Doesn't bother me. They will form opinions based on social media, not some middle-aged teacher.

The problem is more so that students will go along with a teacher/professor's opinions to get a better grade, or at least avoid the risk of a lower grade. So they start to believe that it's beneficial to just submit to authority, rather than challenge and question authority.
 

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Forgot the topics were government schools, roundabouts, teachers with colored hair and all the wokeness. My apologies.
I have never seen a professor go from "Important and noble" to "horrible and woke" faster than what has happened to teachers in the last 3 years or so.

It is amazing how we have become one of the most hated professions in such a short time.
 

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Is Catholic school worth $1800 a month for kids who is a member of a Lutheran family?

Sorry, I don't mean to try to hijack the thread. It's a good one and tough choice for some of us with kids who are about to be school age.
 

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I have never seen a professor go from "Important and noble" to "horrible and woke" faster than what has happened to teachers in the last 3 years or so.

It is amazing how we have become one of the most hated professions in such a short time.
A lot of older teachers are heading for the exits a few years early and society is not sending signals that teaching is in any way something to get into as a profession for young folk. Compensation for new teachers has fallen behind in compensation, so potential new teachers are just responding the market signals.
 

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Is Catholic school worth $1800 a month for kids who is a member of a Lutheran family?

Sorry, I don't mean to try to hijack the thread. It's a good one and tough choice for some of us with kids who are about to be school age.
Good question and I can give some sound advice on this

1. Most "catholic" schools, especially at the HS level are less catholic than you would probably think, like, way less. They don't even have "religion" class, they have theology classes.

2. Most Catholic sacraments are done by HS so there is no emphasis on them.

3. K-8 catholic school would be a little different

What you will get at the K-8 catholic schools is (and people will get mad), better accountability, better classroom behavior, more parent involvement. Also, maybe a bit worse in math once you get to the middle school grades. As far as your kid not being catholic, he/she will only really notice during religion class, mass and first communion and confession.
 

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Is Catholic school worth $1800 a month for kids who is a member of a Lutheran family?

Sorry, I don't mean to try to hijack the thread. It's a good one and tough choice for some of us with kids who are about to be school age.
We had our oldest kid in a Catholic school until we found out the public school a mile from us was a blue ribbon school.
 

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A lot of older teachers are heading for the exits a few years early and society is not sending signals that teaching is in any way something to get into as a profession for young folk. Compensation for new teachers has fallen behind in compensation, so potential new teachers are just responding the market signals.
I have a friend that does hiring for a very good HS and he said a few years ago they would get 40-50 apps in for a position, no, 10-12!
 

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The problem is more so that students will go along with a teacher/professor's opinions to get a better grade, or at least avoid the risk of a lower grade. So they start to believe that it's beneficial to just submit to authority, rather than challenge and question authority.
The problem is more so that students will learn things. Almost all of it beyond what was understood within the family home. So they start to believe there’s more out there to know and understand, and they start to question the self-limiting beliefs that were imposed upon them.
 

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No way a Catholic HS costs 1800/month
Lincoln has some of the best Catholic HS around
 

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The problem is more so that students will go along with a teacher/professor's opinions to get a better grade, or at least avoid the risk of a lower grade. So they start to believe that it's beneficial to just submit to authority, rather than challenge and question authority.
Not a problem for my mouthy sh*theads! I wish they would submit to authority a little more often.
 

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Most in Omaha are 11-12K for the year.

K-8 are around 300-400 a month.
I've never seen any that high
They are very good with financial aid

All 7 of my kids went through or are still in Catholic schools
 

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I've never seen any that high
They are very good with financial aid

All 7 of my kids went through or are still in Catholic schools
In Omaha?

Yeah, you can get great financial aid and work study.

Mercy is the cheapest by far.

K-8 Schools are different, of course, depending on where you are at in Omaha.
 

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No way a Catholic HS costs 1800/month
Lincoln has some of the best Catholic HS around
Maybe I'm not remembering the chart listing fees at the one Catholic school in plattsmouth.

Either way, it was significantly more than the $300 a month the baptists want lol but they don't teach real science AND have had sex scandals recently...
 
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Don't be sorry, it is okay that you said what you said and realized that it was just a bit off.

7am-3pm would be the school day, right? We agree.

So homeschool kids, unless you just have a giant population of homeschooled kids and those kids are all sort of the same age, are not doing a ton of interacting during the school day.

I don't get your defense that only interaction can happen from 7am-3pm and saying homeschool kids are unable to do that. Your examples of interaction during a school day are talking in the halls or eating lunch. Homeschool kids eat lunch. They also have breaks in between subjects (i.e. hallway time). They can interact via phone, text, email, personal contact with other individuals, etc. during those same time frames. I don't think all of life's lessons are being learned in the 5-minute walk between class and 25-30 minutes for lunch. If your position is that the great, grandiose interaction of chit chatting in the hallway between classes is the key to academic, social, and lifelong personal success then maybe public schools should reverse their schedules. Teach math for 5 minutes, then let the kids wander the hallways for 50 minutes to interact, then teach science for 5 minutes before letting the kids loose for another 50 minute hallway session.

All I was trying to say is that 99.99% of homeschool kids are not locked away in a basement dungeon all day long. And that talking to their peers about their pimples, which boy/girl likes them, what video they saw on Tick Tock, or any other useless banter in the hallway is an effective form of interaction is comical.

Homeschool kids are not cheated out of anything by not going to public schools. They do just as well, if not better in college. Same thing for careers after college. To each their own.
 

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The problem is more so that students will learn things. Almost all of it beyond what was understood within the family home. So they start to believe there’s more out there to know and understand, and they start to question the self-limiting beliefs that were imposed upon them.
You obviously don't know what good homeschooling looks like, in which subjects are discussed and debated from many angles. From my significant experience, homeschooled kids have a much better understanding of the varying beliefs, opinions, and theories of the world they are about to enter than public school kids, and can hold vastly more intelligent conversations supporting their own beliefs about them as well.
 

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I don't get your defense that only interaction can happen from 7am-3pm and saying homeschool kids are unable to do that. Your examples of interaction during a school day are talking in the halls or eating lunch. Homeschool kids eat lunch. They also have breaks in between subjects (i.e. hallway time). They can interact via phone, text, email, personal contact with other individuals, etc. during those same time frames. I don't think all of life's lessons are being learned in the 5-minute walk between class and 25-30 minutes for lunch. If your position is that the great, grandiose interaction of chit chatting in the hallway between classes is the key to academic, social, and lifelong personal success then maybe public schools should reverse their schedules. Teach math for 5 minutes, then let the kids wander the hallways for 50 minutes to interact, then teach science for 5 minutes before letting the kids loose for another 50 minute hallway session.

All I was trying to say is that 99.99% of homeschool kids are not locked away in a basement dungeon all day long. And that talking to their peers about their pimples, which boy/girl likes them, what video they saw on Tick Tock, or any other useless banter in the hallway is an effective form of interaction is comical.

Homeschool kids are not cheated out of anything by not going to public schools. They do just as well, if not better in college. Same thing for careers after college. To each their own.
I appreciate your stance.
 

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You obviously don't know what good homeschooling looks like, in which subjects are discussed and debated from many angles. From my significant experience, homeschooled kids have a much better understanding of the varying beliefs, opinions, and theories of the world they are about to enter than public school kids, and can hold vastly more intelligent conversations supporting their own beliefs about them as well.
Yeah, like anyone else, they just need to have a good teacher(s).
 

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The problem is more so that students will learn things. Almost all of it beyond what was understood within the family home. So they start to believe there’s more out there to know and understand, and they start to question the self-limiting beliefs that were imposed upon them.

Yeah they might learn that men can get pregnant and that the 2020 riots were mostly peaceful. Can't get that sophisticated knowledge at home.
 

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Very very true. Private. schools do. a much much better job with all of that.
I'm sure there are some really crappy private schools... everything can be explained on a bell curve. Private schools just aren't required to tow the line of activist public education.

None of ANY of these generalizations regarding public education take place where @cavalot teaches, BTW. Forgot to issue that disclaimer. Sorry, bud....
 

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I'm sure there are some really crappy private schools... everything can be explained on a bell curve. Private schools just aren't required to tow the line of activist public education.

None of ANY of these generalizations regarding public education take place where @cavalot teaches, BTW. Forgot to issue that disclaimer. Sorry, bud....
I have yet to meet a public school Principal who I would describe as an activist. And there are plenty of private schools where the student body is much more "activist" than the public schools.
 

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Yeah they might learn that men can get pregnant and that the 2020 riots were mostly peaceful. Can't get that sophisticated knowledge at home.
Does that actually bother you? Are you actually worried your kids are becoming indoctrinated by libs? Because my kids just laugh about that stuff and I try to teach them to be open minded. So I'm wondering if people actually stress about this or if it's drama. We've had many a meal laughing about the furries at school. I don't see it as a threat because my kids are smart enough to know it's just weird kids.
 

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Public school. Locally governed. Supported by property taxes of local people. With excellent teachers who produce the next generation of citizens. Universal access to a public school is an incredible public good. Kids learn how to get along with their peers in schools and form important, life long relationships as a result.

That wasn't my experience, but I know some people like to believe it.
 

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Does that actually bother you? Are you actually worried your kids are becoming indoctrinated by libs? Because my kids just laugh about that stuff and I try to teach them to be open minded. So I'm wondering if people actually stress about this or if it's drama. We've had many a meal laughing about the furries at school. I don't see it as a threat because my kids are smart enough to know it's just weird kids.
Years ago it was the "greasers" and then the "punks" and then the "metal heads" and so on and so on.

I just don't think the mind control games are going on like some people think. Again, 99% of us teachers are just normal people that want to get home by 3:30pm.
 

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Years ago it was the "greasers" and then the "punks" and then the "metal heads" and so on and so on.

I just don't think the mind control games are going on like some people think. Again, 99% of us teachers are just normal people that want to get home by 3:30pm.
Trans kids are just at the end of the list of humans that are being defined as the outgroup. Used to be gay kids and still is in a lot of zipcodes.
 

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Yeah, like anyone else, they just need to have a good teacher(s).
Forget quality debate, public teachers can't even teach their students to read or add. In fact, the longer kids are in public schools, the worse they perform. Given their performance, how anyone can be a staunch general advocate for public schools is beyond me. They are failing by every measure.

"In Omaha Public Schools, 36% of elementary students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 34% tested at or above that level for math. Also, 31% of middle school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 25% tested at or above that level for math. And 19% of high school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 12% tested at or above that level for math."

If homeschool parents delivered results like the above they would be arrested for child neglect and abuse.

Regarding social skills...socialization for the sake of socialization isn't positive, and is very often harmful, when it is with those that are not motivated, not educated, phone and social media addicted, and whose morals directly conflict with your family's.

 

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Forget quality debate, public teachers can't even teach their students to read or add. In fact, the longer kids are in public schools, the worse they perform. Given their performance, how anyone can be a staunch general advocate for public schools is beyond me. They are failing by every measure.

"In Omaha Public Schools, 36% of elementary students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 34% tested at or above that level for math. Also, 31% of middle school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 25% tested at or above that level for math. And 19% of high school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 12% tested at or above that level for math."

If homeschool parents delivered results like the above they would be arrested for child neglect and abuse.

Regarding social skills...socialization for the sake of socialization isn't positive, and is very often harmful, when it is with those that are not motivated, not educated, phone and social media addicted, and whose morals directly conflict with your family's.
90% of American youth attend public schools. I would expect that if the American public school system was a failure, the country would be experiencing a lack of economic vitality and yet the United States is a very wealthy country with a skilled and adaptable work force. From your last sentence, it seems you are concerned with the morals and media addictions of your fellow Americans. That's you problem, not a problem for the rest of us.
 

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Years ago it was the "greasers" and then the "punks" and then the "metal heads" and so on and so on.

I just don't think the mind control games are going on like some people think. Again, 99% of us teachers are just normal people that want to get home by 3:30pm.
SATANIC PANIC! My best friend taught special ed at a pretty rough school here in Lincoln for over 10 years. After listening to him vent for his whole career, I am 100% convinced the issue with public school is the terrible, horrible parenting going on today. He just laughs at all the pearl clutching going on by adults today. His own elderly parents still believe he teaches CRT to 4th graders or that he advocates sex changes if a kid feels different. BTW, he does not.
 

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SATANIC PANIC! My best friend taught special ed at a pretty rough school here in Lincoln for over 10 years. After listening to him vent for his whole career, I am 100% convinced the issue with public school is the terrible, horrible parenting going on today. He just laughs at all the pearl clutching going on by adults today. His own elderly parents still believe he teaches CRT to 4th graders or that he advocates sex changes if a kid feels different. BTW, he does not.
The weird thing is that I am related to or friends with multiple teachers in 2 different states. I'm related to 5 teachers in the omaha metro alone. All but 1 are super conservative, anti-liberal. It's why I find it so strange that everyone is worried about all this liberal stuff. No way these people would even consider teaching any of that stuff.

E-learning day today for my kids. I should probably go tell my 2nd graders to quit quizzing each other on spelling. It won't matter. They are just going to turn out to be illiterate trannies who are homeless in LA anyway.
 

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Forget quality debate, public teachers can't even teach their students to read or add. In fact, the longer kids are in public schools, the worse they perform. Given their performance, how anyone can be a staunch general advocate for public schools is beyond me. They are failing by every measure.

"In Omaha Public Schools, 36% of elementary students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 34% tested at or above that level for math. Also, 31% of middle school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 25% tested at or above that level for math. And 19% of high school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 12% tested at or above that level for math."

If homeschool parents delivered results like the above they would be arrested for child neglect and abuse.

Regarding social skills...socialization for the sake of socialization isn't positive, and is very often harmful, when it is with those that are not motivated, not educated, phone and social media addicted, and whose morals directly conflict with your family's.

68% of statistics are totally made up and false!
 

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I have taught in 4 schools ranging from D2 to A. I will say that my experience at a class A school has been a complete joke. It’s a daycare for most kids and the good students classes are constantly ruined by the dipshit kids. Have had quite a few home schooled kids come to take my classes as I teach an elective area, most have been very mature, smart and well behaved. I don’t blame you for choosing home school one bit and if you are on the edge of Lincoln, consider opting her into one of the smaller towns close by. Smaller schools still provide a quality education and provide a better value system in my opinion.