hollywood... really ???

[WVU82_rivals]

Nat Turner was an enslaved African American who led a rebellion of slaves and free blacks in Southampton County, Virginia on August 21, 1831, that resulted in the deaths of 55 to 65 white people.

Believing in signs and hearing divine voices, Turner was convinced by an eclipse of the Sun (1831) that the time to rise up had come, and he enlisted the help of four other slaves in the area. An insurrection was planned, aborted, and rescheduled for August 21,1831, when he and six other slaves killed the Travis family, managed to secure arms and horses, and enlisted about 75 other slaves in a disorganized insurrection that resulted in the murder of 51 white people.

Fifty-six blacks accused of participating in Nat Turner's rebellion were executed, and more than 200 others were beaten by angry mobs or white militias.

--- and they're going to release this movie October 7th... Birth of a Nation...

This is going to start riots... mark my words.

 

[MikeRafone]

What kills me is there is no monument to Nat Turner to this day in Virginia. In this day and age you think there would be. Nope, just an often vandalized historical marker. The family that owns the land is still too 'traumatized' by what happened to their ancestors. How do the families of the slaves they held for years feel about how their ancestors were treated by those same folks? It's racist horseshit from descendents of people in denial of who and what their ancestors really were.

The state of Virginia talks a good game these days when it comes to race, but when it comes down to it, the FFV types and their like that still hold power in Virginia still hide and quake in denial, trembling in fear that the wrongs their ancestors inflicted on others are going to come back in the great retribution that Nat's rising promised. Nat put the fear of God in those folks and they're still shaking.

The interesting thing about Nat and his rebels is they by and large spared the poor and common White folk they ran across. They were out to get their actual oppressors, the planter class.

Think of race slavery in what's now the US in the terms it should be, slave labor in rough built concentration camps on the large plantations, kept like animals in barns and outbuildings on small holdings, for 245 years with minimal rations and clothing. Then travel around and look at all the things those folks were forced to build, the forests they cleared by hand, the swamps they drained, the canals they dug, the infrastructure they built, the crops they grew that fostered both the capital and material for nascent Industrial Revolution in both Europe and the US and let me know why Black folks are still pissed about the way they're treated to this day?

Let Nat have his movie, he deserves it. And get him a statue while you're at it.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

 

[MountaineerWV]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

So, you are against this movie???? I guess, then, we should just stop all movies based on historical events. There weren't any riots after:

1. Roots
2. Amistad
3. 12 Years a Slave

Wow.......

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

Like all of the rest of the Black Struggles movies that are made to co scantly remind us of the struggles of racism, I'll choose not to watch this one either. File it right up there with the New Roots, The Butler, Selma, and the rest.

I simply do not care. I'll not be held responsible for the sins of the past.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

 

[moe]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

Relax Francis.

 

[Keyser76]

Them blacks should get over racism like white folk got over the civil war!

 

[MountaineerWV]

Like all of the rest of the Black Struggles movies that are made to co scantly remind us of the struggles of racism, I'll choose not to watch this one either. File it right up there with the New Roots, The Butler, Selma, and the rest.

I simply do not care. I'll not be held responsible for the sins of the past.

So, do you not watch other historical films? Or just ones that show how bad one minority group had and who caused it?????

 

[MountaineerWV]

How many US cities will be on fire in October from this movie ? ... 5...10... 20...?

How many policemen will die in October from this movie ? ...10... 20... 30... ?

youtube is going to have a good month...

Using your logic, we should have seen an immediate terrorist action following the release of Zero Dark Thirty or Lone Survivor........

 

[dave]

Using your logic, we should have seen an immediate terrorist action following the release of Zero Dark Thirty or Lone Survivor........

I have warned you before about attempting to apply what you think is logic.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

So, do you not watch other historical films? Or just ones that show how bad one minority group had and who caused it?????

I watch some, I did watch Amistad, the Tusckeegee Airmen, and Glory. I enjoyed them very much.

It seems we crossed a threshold within the last 5-10 years, or maybe I did, not sure. All I know is that now I can't hardly sit through them if I even watch them at all. Maybe it's the films in conjunction with the social justice Facebookers or maybe it's living in a predominantly black city, or something else. All I know is that I feel nothing at all when I watch the films and the faux outrage and mock emotions from people when they are created turn me off even more. Regardless, that part of this county's history is something I'm not connected to in anyway. My ancestors came on the boat after the war. I just simply don't care about slavery from 150 years ago.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I watch some, I did watch Amistad, the Tusckeegee Airmen, and Glory. I enjoyed them very much.

It seems we crossed a threshold within the last 5-10 years, or maybe I did, not sure. All I know is that now I can't hardly sit through them if I even watch them at all. Maybe it's the films in conjunction with the social justice Facebookers or maybe it's living in a predominantly black city, or something else. All I know is that I feel nothing at all when I watch the films and the faux outrage and mock emotions from people when they are created turn me off even more. Regardless, that part of this county's history is something I'm not connected to in anyway. My ancestors came on the boat after the war. I just simply don't care about slavery from 150 years ago.

Selma was a good movie, imo. 12 Years a Slave was not. Thanks for reading WVUCOOPER's movie hot takes.

 

[Mntneer]

Mntneer saw Suicide Squad.... Mntneer didn't think it to be all the bad.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Selma was a good movie, imo. 12 Years a Slave was not. Thanks for reading WVUCOOPER's movie hot takes.

I have the opposite opinion. I felt that Selma wasn't that great, and 12 Years a Slave was pretty damn good. Also, Free State of Jones was pretty good.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I watch some, I did watch Amistad, the Tusckeegee Airmen, and Glory. I enjoyed them very much.

It seems we crossed a threshold within the last 5-10 years, or maybe I did, not sure. All I know is that now I can't hardly sit through them if I even watch them at all. Maybe it's the films in conjunction with the social justice Facebookers or maybe it's living in a predominantly black city, or something else. All I know is that I feel nothing at all when I watch the films and the faux outrage and mock emotions from people when they are created turn me off even more. Regardless, that part of this county's history is something I'm not connected to in anyway. My ancestors came on the boat after the war. I just simply don't care about slavery from 150 years ago.

I think it is important part of our history to remind people how the powerful can oppress the weak or underprivileged. Slavery was a black eye on our history, but a lot of nation's history as well. However, we fought a Civil War over it while other countries did not. I don't know what my family was back then, as far as being slave owners or not. I'll take a stab and say probably not from the stories I've heard from my family passed down....seemed like my family were dirt poor farmers trying to make a buck anyway they could.

 

[~IRWT~]

Nat Turner was an enslaved African American who led a rebellion of slaves and free blacks in Southampton County, Virginia on August 21, 1831, that resulted in the deaths of 55 to 65 white people.

Believing in signs and hearing divine voices, Turner was convinced by an eclipse of the Sun (1831) that the time to rise up had come, and he enlisted the help of four other slaves in the area. An insurrection was planned, aborted, and rescheduled for August 21,1831, when he and six other slaves killed the Travis family, managed to secure arms and horses, and enlisted about 75 other slaves in a disorganized insurrection that resulted in the murder of 51 white people.

Fifty-six blacks accused of participating in Nat Turner's rebellion were executed, and more than 200 others were beaten by angry mobs or white militias.

--- and they're going to release this movie October 7th... Birth of a Nation...

This is going to start riots... mark my words.

Django was a straight up violent movie and didnt cause riots. Although, I will concede we live in a different time now.

So, you are against this movie???? I guess, then, we should just stop all movies based on historical events. There weren't any riots after:

1. Roots
2. Amistad
3. 12 Years a Slave

Wow.......

You forgot Django...which I concede wasn't based on real people and was more Hollywood and less gut wrenching than this may be.

 

[Airport]

What kills me is there is no monument to Nat Turner to this day in Virginia. In this day and age you think there would be. Nope, just an often vandalized historical marker. The family that owns the land is still too 'traumatized' by what happened to their ancestors. How do the families of the slaves they held for years feel about how their ancestors were treated by those same folks? It's racist horseshit from descendents of people in denial of who and what their ancestors really were.

The state of Virginia talks a good game these days when it comes to race, but when it comes down to it, the FFV types and their like that still hold power in Virginia still hide and quake in denial, trembling in fear that the wrongs their ancestors inflicted on others are going to come back in the great retribution that Nat's rising promised. Nat put the fear of God in those folks and they're still shaking.

The interesting thing about Nat and his rebels is they by and large spared the poor and common White folk they ran across. They were out to get their actual oppressors, the planter class.

Think of race slavery in what's now the US in the terms it should be, slave labor in rough built concentration camps on the large plantations, kept like animals in barns and outbuildings on small holdings, for 245 years with minimal rations and clothing. Then travel around and look at all the things those folks were forced to build, the forests they cleared by hand, the swamps they drained, the canals they dug, the infrastructure they built, the crops they grew that fostered both the capital and material for nascent Industrial Revolution in both Europe and the US and let me know why Black folks are still pissed about the way they're treated to this day?

Let Nat have his movie, he deserves it. And get him a statue while you're at it.

Didn't African blacks sell their own into slavery?

 

[Airport]

I think it is important part of our history to remind people how the powerful can oppress the weak or underprivileged. Slavery was a black eye on our history, but a lot of nation's history as well. However, we fought a Civil War over it while other countries did not. I don't know what my family was back then, as far as being slave owners or not. I'll take a stab and say probably not from the stories I've heard from my family passed down....seemed like my family were dirt poor farmers trying to make a buck anyway they could.

People have been enslaving people since the beginning of time. Africans sold their fellow man into slavery. You look at Africa now and it's a cesspool. Self rule hasn't been great for them.

 

[mneilmont]

People have been enslaving people since the beginning of time. Africans sold their fellow man into slavery. You look at Africa now and it's a cesspool. Self rule hasn't been great for them.

Who would I be justified in killing? How much can I get paid.

My ancestors were given a birthday party on the Thames. It was a free boat ride to celebrate at teen party and all having fun. At the end of the boat ride, instead of returning to shore they landed in Va and they(white teens) were held in bondage until the male could buy(work) fees out. He then worked a couple more years to pay for her release. Got married and raised family. Got title to property 1863. Family was successful in adapting to new life.

 

[mneilmont]

Who would I be justified in killing? How much can I get paid.

My ancestors were given a birthday party on the Thames. It was a free boat ride to celebrate at teen party and all having fun. At the end of the boat ride, instead of returning to shore they landed in Va and they(white teens) were held in bondage until the male could buy(work) fees out. He then worked a couple more years to pay for her release. Got married and raised family. Got title to property 1863. Family was successful in adapting to new life.

No response again???