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Brushy Bill

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In a couple of days we'll know whether or not the republic will continue or if the final death blow has been thrust. Either President Trump will do his duty and keep the nefarious actors and foreign influencers from completing their task of eradicating governance of 'we the people' or the swamp will claim our last best chance to reverse course. In the mean time keep praying for God's hand on our nation and protection and wisdom for President Trump. God bless you all, and God bless America.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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In a couple of days we'll know whether or not the republic will continue or if the final death blow has been thrust. Either President Trump will do his duty and keep the nefarious actors and foreign influencers from completing their task of eradicating governance of 'we the people' or the swamp will claim our last best chance to reverse course. In the mean time keep praying for God's hand on our nation and protection and wisdom for President Trump. God bless you all, and God bless America.
My desire is for a peaceful transition and a clobbering in 22 and 24.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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If they indeed stole this election then future elections are meaningless.
I do in fact believe there was fraud. I do believe it was enough to flip the election. I do not believe in the wild conspiracies as it was simply low tech.

All someone needs to do is look at the voter rolls and do some comparative analysis. We know the voter rolls are fvcked to begin with. The mass mail-in voting opened up the ability for fraud. Period. With respect to this election, there are plenty of states that flipped that don’t have the GA requirements. Take a look at first time voters. Show up, give a corresponding address, and vote. That simple.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Its OK chinaCoop. I have come to expect ignorance from you.
It's a shame you are too fat and lazy to join in the fight for the country. I mean they stoled the election and country from you and you just type away on your keyboard. Sad.
 

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It's a shame you are too fat and lazy to join in the fight for the country. I mean they stoled the election and country from you and you just type away on your keyboard. Sad.
Go watch your child porn . You voted for the pedophile. 😂😂😂😂
 

atlkvb

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Good grief. Were the courts in on it too or is it just the DEEPSTATE is that good?


:joy: :joy: :joy:

I posted a link with "10 irrefutable facts" proving Biden stole the election. (irrefutable means there are no contravening facts refuting these) If you're convinced he did not, why didn't YOU factually rebut at least one of those? Any one of them all by themselves proves there was fraud, and if there was not, any one of them would be easy to factually refute. You cannot, no one can. (no one did)

I'm convinced it was stolen and you Leftists know it, if it is allowed to stand then @Brushy Bill is 100% correct, we will never have another fair election in this country again.

NEVER.

Give it a spin...pick just one item off this list and let's hear you factually refute it as proof this election was NOT fraudulent.

Here's the link
 

atlkvb

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You are a pedophile. :joy: 🤣 :joy: 🤣 :joy:

You call names which is easy and childish. Pick an item off my list in post #12 and back up your contention this election was NOT fraudulent. That takes effort and some sort of an adult command of the FACTS. Show us you're not just a congenital liar and a child. Refute at least one fact on that list with the provable actual contradictory facts.

Stop hiding behind your congenital lies, stand up and tell the Truth for once in your deceit filled Conservative life.
 

atlkvb

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@WVUCOOPER I know you read me so you can drop the act that you have me on ignore or never read my posts. (I know you read me because you often "like" posts your friends on the Left put up responding to something I've said)

So cut the crap and answer my challenge to you in post #12. If you really want to shut me up, or expose me as the right wing conspiracy theory nut case so many of you on the Left of this forum think I am, go ahead and factually shoot down at least one item on my list of "10 irrefutable facts" proving Biden stole the election.

If you're convinced it was on the up and up, even the first item should end the controversy. So what are the counter facts disproving that first item, (or any other item on that list) thereby validating the legitimacy of Biden's stunning record setting victory?

If you refuse to answer I know why, and you do too. You can't tell congenital lies with facts. You don't have the facts to refute one item on that list which would easily rebut the allegations of the fraud in this election. THAT'S why you and everyone else on the Left is staying from this challenge.

You're all frauds, and you all know it.
 
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Are we going to ignore the fact that Bru supports the executions of protesters but is against the death penalty in other cases such as child murderers?
 

atlkvb

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Are we going to ignore the fact that Bru supports the executions of protesters but is against the death penalty in other cases such as child murderers?

I think most folks are simply ignoring Bru's maniacal rants.
 

Brushy Bill

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The board libs like coop support his message
Coop isn't a true liberal. He's a "conservative" who's guiding principles revolve around immediate gratification ("free markets"/"free trade") and not long term national stability.
 

atlkvb

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Here is why the Left refuses to accept my challenge in post #12:

First item on that list says "Trump won more votes than any other re-election Presidential candidate in history". Fact. No one got as many votes as he did and lost.

It was truly historic. So was Biden's vote total, no one got as many votes as he did...he won. Yet despite that...item #6 on that list says he won the fewest number of counties ever for a winning Presidential candidate! How can that be? He wins a record number of votes, yet loses more counties than most Presidential losers won?

Trump won a record number of votes, and won a record number of counties too! Perfectly reasonable for a record setting total of votes correct? Of course, in fact perfectly logical!

So explain Joe Biden's record loss of counties while he won 80 million votes? No one can, unless they admit most of his winning votes came from specific areas where there were eyewitness accounts and sworn affidavits of rampant voter fraud!

No one on the Left can factually refute that...and those are just two items off that list. Now you all know why they are staying away from it.
 

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Here is why the Left refuses to accept my challenge in post #12:

First item on that list says "Trump won more votes than any other re-election Presidential candidate in history". Fact. No one got as many votes as he did and lost.

It was truly historic. So was Biden's vote total, no one got as many votes as he did...he won. Yet despite that...item #6 on that list says he won the fewest number of counties ever for a winning Presidential candidate! How can that be? He wins a record number of votes, yet loses more counties than most Presidential losers won?

Trump won a record number of votes, and won a record number of counties too! Perfectly reasonable for a record setting total of votes correct? Of course, in fact perfectly logical!

So explain Joe Biden's record loss of counties while he won 80 million votes? No one can, unless they admit most of his winning votes came from specific areas where there were eyewitness accounts and sworn affidavits of rampant voter fraud!

No one on the Left can factually refute that...and those are just two items off that list. Now you all know why they are staying away from it.
Not to mention Pedo Joe got nowhere near sniffing the presidency the last two times he ran. In fact, he was less popular than Kamala.
 

atlkvb

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My fans are riled up today. :joy: :joy: :joy:

Personally I'm just tired of your BS.


You posting this sh*t :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

You're a total fraud....nauseating.
 

atlkvb

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Not to mention Pedo Joe got nowhere near sniffing the presidency the last two times he ran. In fact, he was less popular than Kamala.

He's a fraud just like this whole process was @oceantide83 . The Left knows it, but they're just gloating over how much it frustrates us on the Right that they stole this thing and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it.

They're reveling in that. They absolutely LOVE it!

Cheating frauds.
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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Good grief. Were the courts in on it too or is it just the DEEPSTATE is that good?


:joy: :joy: :joy:
I don’t think sufficient proof was presented to the courts to make a case. Impossible to prove. Like I said, it’s all about the voter rolls, which are publicly available. All you have to do is see who hasn’t voted in the last x elections. Show up to vote at the correct precinct and say you’re that person with that address. Add in ballot harvesting of mail in votes, and it’s pretty easy scenario to imagine and execute. How is it going to be tracked, stopped, proven without voter id laws?

Clean voter rolls only guards against part of what I’m talking about. Unless there is voter id we have fraud in our system. Period.
 

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I don’t think sufficient proof was presented to the courts to make a case. Impossible to prove. Like I said, it’s all about the voter rolls, which are publicly available. All you have to do is see who hasn’t voted in the last x elections. Show up to vote at the correct precinct and say you’re that person with that address. Add in ballot harvesting of mail in votes, and it’s pretty easy scenario to imagine and execute. How is it going to be tracked, stopped, proven without voter id laws?

Clean voter rolls only guards against part of what I’m talking about. Unless there is voter id we have fraud in our system. Period.
Why didn't you Trumpers make this a priority BEFORE the election? The we know it's true but we can't prove it line is just sore losering, imo.

Must be tough to see the problem, know the problem and still let the DEEPSTATE beat you with said problem.

Are you suggesting we nationalize our elections to fix the issues?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Why didn't you Trumpers make this a priority BEFORE the election? The we know it's true but we can't prove it line is just sore losering, imo.

Must be tough to see the problem, know the problem and still let the DEEPSTATE beat you with said problem.

Are you suggesting we nationalize our elections to fix the issues?
I’m suggesting we vote out politicians unwilling to fix obvious issues at the local, state, county, and federal levels and vote in representatives looking to do something other than grift.
 

atlkvb

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Why didn't you Trumpers make this a priority BEFORE the election? The we know it's true but we can't prove it line is just sore losering, imo.

Must be tough to see the problem, know the problem and still let the DEEPSTATE beat you with said problem.

Are you suggesting we nationalize our elections to fix the issues?

How did Biden win 80 million votes yet win fewer counties than any winning Presidential candidate ever? Explain that?
 

WVUCOOPER

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I’m suggesting we vote out politicians unwilling to fix obvious issues at the local, state, county, and federal levels and vote in representatives looking to do something other than grift.
But....the vote can't be trusted? Feels like a chicken and egg situation.
 

atlkvb

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Why didn't you Trumpers make this a priority BEFORE the election? The we know it's true but we can't prove it line is just sore losering, imo.

Must be tough to see the problem, know the problem and still let the DEEPSTATE beat you with said problem.

Are you suggesting we nationalize our elections to fix the issues?

No. We don't have a "national registration" system for motor vehicles, yet every State manages to keep accurate records of who owns which motor vehicles in which States. It's an instantly provable system on a nationwide database, and with few exceptions, it is accurate and in real time. You need proof of ownership, and other records to gain proper registrations and titles in order to sell or buy your automobile, and no one gets plates without showing I.D. 50 different States have 50 different DMV's that feed into a national database, and Police or insurance carriers can use it to find the registered owners of virtually any vehicle with that information.


Why can't we have a similar system for voter registration, based on I.D.'s, real time proof of residency, and reliable accurate data on who each legally registered voter is?

Ans: Because Democrats wouldn't be able to easily cheat with such a fool proof system.
 

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Why didn't you Trumpers make this a priority BEFORE the election? The we know it's true but we can't prove it line is just sore losering, imo.

Must be tough to see the problem, know the problem and still let the DEEPSTATE beat you with said problem.
I guess you think you’re riling me up with this stuff? You must have me confused with one of the other guys.

I don’t know why GOP states don’t make it more of a priority. It is frustrating and has been, long before Trump. It is easily solvable to where it won’t be successfully challenged in courts, but both sides seem to prefer wedge issues vs. fixing stuff. It’s why I liked Trump, he hit some issues hard with solutions-based approach that I agreed with. This wasn’t one that he was able to rally the legislature at the state Levels to solve.
 

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I guess you think you’re riling me up with this stuff? You must have me confused with one of the other guys.

I don’t know why GOP states don’t make it more of a priority. It is frustrating and has been, long before Trump. It is easily solvable to where it won’t be successfully challenged in courts, but both sides seem to prefer wedge issues vs. fixing stuff. It’s why I liked Trump, he hit some issues hard with solutions-based approach that I agreed with. This wasn’t one that he was able to rally the legislature at the state Levels to solve.

As I said @DvlDog4WVU , the Left is reveling in this chaos. They invited it, and wanted it because out of chaos they can cast doubt on the legitimacy of the entire process. That quite frankly was their objective...towards their ultimate goal of doing away with the vote altogether to be replaced by a "popular preference" poll or some other such gobbledygook. They don't want well informed, legally registered voters deciding these elections. They would lose, and they can't cheat under that scenario.

Thus we have this clown show of mail in ballots, dead people on voter registration rolls, folks showing up to vote with no I.D. and ballots getting lost or miscounted. A three ring circus, exactly as the Left planned it.
 
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WVUCOOPER

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I guess you think you’re riling me up with this stuff? You must have me confused with one of the other guys.

I don’t know why GOP states don’t make it more of a priority. It is frustrating and has been, long before Trump. It is easily solvable to where it won’t be successfully challenged in courts, but both sides seem to prefer wedge issues vs. fixing stuff. It’s why I liked Trump, he hit some issues hard with solutions-based approach that I agreed with. This wasn’t one that he was able to rally the legislature at the state Levels to solve.
Not everything is trying to "rile" people up. Just don't understand your thinking. Legit feels like butthurt over losing, to me. Agree to disagree on Trump using executive power for the "wins" you are fond of, but to each their own.