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KaKaKen

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I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football
 
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RUsSKii

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******** like "Gives us the best chance to go 1-0" and "we didn't want to interrupt his learning" is still ********, no matter how good of a public speaker former coach Flood was.
 
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Flood's speaking wasn't the problem. He was eloquent for a coach.

It was the content that was the problem.
 
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If KF's coaching skills had been anywhere near his speaking skills he would have probably been in fine shape. -But those two things weren't even remotely close to each other.
 
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KaKaKen said:
I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football
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Listen KaKa[poop], we understand your role as Eeyore on this board, but take a break for awhile because we are finally heading in the right direction.
 
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NickyNewark51

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KaKaKen said:
I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football
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Yes BS is quite helpful on the journey through life...unfortunately you need coaching skills as a HC.
 
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derleider

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Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.
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LOL. Probably says you at the time. Alot of people on this board should be thankful that the boards memory doesnt go back this far, because people were falling all over themselves after Flood's initial presser about how fresh he was, how he didnt use a bunch of Schianoisms, was more honest, more direct, just the guy we needed to keep building on Schiano's legacy, etc.

Thats not a knock against Ash. Being inspiring is part of being a coach. But its certainly not the whole story, as this boards reaction to Flood shows. Mostly people like to be hopeful.
 
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KaKaKen said:
I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football
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"Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker" - No, because that's the first I've heard that statement.
 
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Flood had a weird, rushed, unconfident verbal delivery. Especially rushed. Never liked it. It seems like he lacks assurance in his words.

Ash is great. He will be even better when he gets comfortable.
 
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RutgersRaRa

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Okay, so this thread is emblematic of the dysfunctionality of our Rutgers community: KaKaKen, who named himself after the stuttering character in the movie A Fish Called Wanda, in the middle of our collective glee about our new coach started a thread on the comparative value of the elocution of Flood and Ash and on the value of public speaking in general. Alrighty then.

In a related topic, I know what I'm getting myself for Christmas:
 
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Ajwich

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So it would be better if Ash were an inarticulate idiot. What a mindless post.
 
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bamrinnj706

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I never understood the love with Flood's press conferences. Even in his initial press conference, I remember thinking he didn't have much of a "presence" or really had a handle on how to make things progress. Obviously this didn't change throughout his time in charge.

I just assumed maybe I was missing something.

Ash to me has a "presence."
 
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brgossRU90

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It's true you don't win games with press conferences. We're mostly going to have to wait now to see what he can really do. I'd like to see a few last minute things with recruiting, though, to get a sense that he can make things happen in new jersey and maybe in some other big ten states where he has connections.
 
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derleider said:
LOL. Probably says you at the time. Alot of people on this board should be thankful that the boards memory doesnt go back this far, because people were falling all over themselves after Flood's initial presser about how fresh he was, how he didnt use a bunch of Schianoisms, was more honest, more direct, just the guy we needed to keep building on Schiano's legacy, etc.

Thats not a knock against Ash. Being inspiring is part of being a coach. But its certainly not the whole story, as this boards reaction to Flood shows. Mostly people like to be hopeful.
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There was an equal amount of people who thought Flood should have been fired as OL coach years earlier who HATED him being named head coach.
 
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Blitz8RUCrazy said:
Flood always came across as a very confident moron.
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Worst kind of moron!

It didn't come across so much as confident to me, maybe more like stubborn. Almost lacking confidence, really...rather than take a risk and honestly address a question or issue, he would just resort to his catch phrases ("Chris Laviano is our starting QB" in reply to any QB related question, for example)

Toward the end he almost looked robotic up there, there was a sad vacant type of look that he had as he went through his list of canned responses.

Ash, on the other hand, had a presence that Flood never had, even on his best day. I'm very excited about the direction of the program.
 
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