HO...LY...****, OM is in deep doo-doo!

blacklistedbully

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I'm sure this has been posted in some way shape or form, but have y'all actually read the latest filing by Nutt's legal team?

If not, it is a must-read. Even if they get the Lafayette judicial system to help them in the suit, the stuff contained in the complaint is devastating for them with the NCAA and sports media going forward.

Here's a list of sports media who now know they were intentionally lied to and used/manipulated by OM:
Pat Forde
Joe Shad
Bruce Feldman
Paul "pencil-necked geek" Finebaum
Matt Wyatt
Daniel Pauling
David Brandt
Chris Low
Ed Ashoff
Neal "I'm not a fan" McCready
Steven Godfrey
Chuck Rounsaville

While some of these guys are too connected to OM to retaliate, there are several who are no doubt supremely pissed off because they were made a fool of, etc.

There is way too much damning stuff in there to mention it in this post, so do yourselves a favor, click the link to the filing, grab some popcorn and have a read. It will not bore you.
http://www.deltacomputersystems.com/TEMP/T20171011/T2271095/Q0573243.PDF

I've always felt UNM was going to get spanked hard...harder than most others thought. Now I think it may be even worse than I'd ever thought. If the COI members read the linked filing, I don't see how they could not make an example of OM.

Most of the stuff in it is a collection of things we've heard or known for some time, but they put details and a timeline together that is impressive, including detailed accounts of phone calls between the various OM parties and their counsel, etc.

THEY ARE SO SCREWED!
 
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I'll read it at some pint, but I lol'd at "****" and "doo-doo" together in your title.
 

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Here's a list of sports media who now know they were intentionally lied to and used/manipulated by OM:

Neal "I'm not a fan" McCready
Steven Godfrey
Chuck Rounsaville

While some of these guys are too connected to OM to retaliate

These should be divided into two lists. One would be the ones that were 'misled.' The other .. with Neal, Godfrey and Chuck (+ Dj) .. are the ones that 'willfully' did the dirty work for Bucky.
 

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It's a better read if you get some good lawyerin' music goin in the background.

And whenever you see any quote or statement from Ole Miss, imagine it coming out in a Foghorn-Leghorn voice...

"Ah say... Ah say... MOST of the 30 allegations happened under Coach Nutt"
 

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I started reading the filed papers but haven't finished yet (the golf course called so I had to spend the day there). I think we're all pretty much past shocked when we see something else they've done, and it looks like sanctimonious Hugh Freeze was at the helm of just about all of it. The magnitude of cheating is just incredible.
 

Xenomorph

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It would be interesting to know what the guys in Atlanta were actually telling Freeze, Bjork and those other clowns to say. Pro PR firms don't usually advise their clients to tell blatant lies like we're told when it's obvious the truth is going to come out pretty soon anyway.

I mean.. What kind of PR tactician engineers your implosion for you?
 

aTotal360

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I think Freeze was writing the script. The 2013 recruiting class allowed him to put a spell on every plantationist on the planet. He could have called for a genocide and they would have carried it out.
 

seshomoru

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I mean.. What kind of PR tactician engineers your implosion for you?

A firm gladly accepted a huge fee to tell them what they wanted to hear and keep them happy. PR, Accounting, Law... ya don't **** on the cash cow, so you do the job they want you to do, not the one you should do.
 

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Cheating, lying & manipulating. Goes beyond just the cheating. That's what the filing really shows...the extent to which they manipulated media & recruits to cover up the cheating at least long enough to salvage a recruiting class.

With Watergate, the predicament Nixon found himself in was made exponentially worse by the attempted cover-up. Wonder if the same will be true for Ole Miss.
 

blacklistedbully

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I wonder if any of those abused sports media will appear as witnesses for the plaintiff in the trial...assuming some crooked Lafayette County judge doesn't dismiss it to protect his beloved Alma Mater.

Imagine Pat Forde, Joe Shad, Bruce Feldman, Chris Low, etc confirming the timeline and what was said? And if they do that, how eager will the Atlanta PR firm be to risk perjury if they are called to the stand?

Will OM continue to fight this, or will they settle to avoid further public exposure and confirmation of their dirty dealings? My guess is they will hope a "sympathetic" judge will dismiss the case, but if that doesn't happen, they will have to decide whether it is best to delay and draw it out until after the COI decision, or if they will settle the case before, even though that would send something of bad optics to the COI, given the public release of the filing.

In other words, would a settlement now look like an admission of guilt to the stuff in the legal filing, and if so, would that be better than risking what else may come out in a trial?

They are screwed six-ways-to-Sunday!
 

RocketDawg

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Cheating, lying & manipulating. Goes beyond just the cheating. That's what the filing really shows...the extent to which they manipulated media & recruits to cover up the cheating at least long enough to salvage a recruiting class.

With Watergate, the predicament Nixon found himself in was made exponentially worse by the attempted cover-up. Wonder if the same will be true for Ole Miss.

It almost certainly will be. And it should be.
 

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Beruit Sally is a willing water boy. He did it for clicks. Of all the people in the world that would be mad at Freeze Sally would not be one of them.
 

blacklistedbully

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As bad as those other guys are...I hesitate to include BS (apropos) as a journalist or sports media. He is such a hack it's disgusting, and he doesn't have the excuse of being a UNM alum. IMO, BS was bought, plain & simple.

Besides, I don't believe he was mentioned in the filing.
 

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I haven’t had a chance to read the whole thing yet, but what stood out to me was that some of the conversations between Freeze, Bjork, and journalists are stated pretty specifically, while others are averred on information and belief. I don’t think it’s too much to infer that some of the people (at least Matt Wyatt) have talked to Mars and told him exactly what occurred in the conversation, and it’s possible they’ve already provided affidavits about it.
 

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Check this out from Dan Wolken...

https://amp.usatoday.com/story/759262001/

"Full disclosure: I exchanged text messages that day with Campbell and reiterated my position that the school should release the NOA publicly, and until it did I would remain skeptical that the characterization of the allegations being provided by school officials was complete and accurate.
It simply didn’t make sense. If the charges weren’t that bad, why not just get them out there publicly?"

"And now that it’s being rehashed, it’s a horrible look for Ole Miss. Moreover, the lawsuit claims that Bjork and Freeze “were the only members of the Athletics Department who were allowed to read the specific allegations in the NOA.” If that’s true, and others in the athletic department were deputized to speak to reporters off the record and disseminate false information at the athletics director’s behest, that could be a major problem for Bjork."

Damn....wow.
 
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blacklistedbully

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Agree. And I'm sure Pat Forde just loves the way OM fans have demonized him for years now.

It's not as if these guys should feel a need to, "protect their sources". That **** goes out the window when the source deliberately lies to you and makes you look like a *****.
 

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According to Dan Wolken, Not-A-Fan McCready had this to say in his Thursday podcast:

"On his podcast Thursday, McCready admitted that information came directly from Freeze: “Did we discuss the NCAA case? Yes. Did I ask, hey, what’s in it? Yes. Was I told it was mostly Nutt and women’s basketball? Yes. Did I feel misled? Yes. Did it piss me off later? Yes. Was I taking talking points and running? No.”"

McCready trying hard to salvage what is left of his reputation, severely tarnished by what Bjork & Freeze did to him.

But he is either a duped journalist, which if he is, he needs to get on the right side of this and hammer OM, or he is, in fact, a shill for OM, "taking talking points and running".

Either way, his audience is Ole Miss fans, so if he chooses his reputation & career, he will lose a ton of his audience. If he chooses to appease those loonie-tones, he's sacrificing any remaining chance he has at credibility, thus immeasurably hurting his career aspirations in sports media.

The OM Athletic Dept has put him firmly between a rock & a hard spot, and they did it purposely. Will he stay their ***** or not?
 
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tatedog

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Agree. And I'm sure Pat Forde just loves the way OM fans have demonized him for years now.

It's not as if these guys should feel a need to, "protect their sources". That **** goes out the window when the source deliberately lies to you and makes you look like a *****.

Also, generally speaking your source shouldn't be a person with a vested interest, unless they provide factual and concrete evidence of their position or narrative.
 

Xenomorph

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I don't really blame McReady for what he did. We all have to earn a living somehow. His glass ceiling is being a fan base journalist. He likely knows that and made a business decision to tote the water.
 

blacklistedbully

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He still has a choice to make. If he sticks with placating Reb fans, he may be stuck there for the rest of his career, with dwindling fan support as the program goes down in flames.

If he tries to become a serious journalist, he pretty much has to go on the offensive against them, and that will piss off his audience, and probably the power-brokers at UNM.
 
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