Hurley's recent success has been on teams with two prototypical bigs. One usually with more experience in the system than the other. Sanogo/Clingan. Then Clingan/Samson. Then Samson/Reed. Now Reed/Reibe this year.
Does this mean the Friar Faithful are going to riot when Oswin returns?
Yea, why not? I want SJU to be good. You see it as a rival, I see it as a business partner. I see other power conference teams as our real rivals.
Maybe if you have a logical malfunction taking place in your brain. Our real rivals are not the teams that help us get TV contract revenue, who we need to be good in order to stay relevant nationally.
You’re not a bad fan just one that lacks an understanding of the bigger picture. Our only relevance comes through membership in the Big East. It is our lifeline and always has been. And that only means something if the BigEast is good.
Next time you come here with a take like that you come in heavy or not at all
Hahaha you think Rutgers is our rival? What good does it do for us if St. John’s is good and we are still a program struggling to tread water? Also if Hines doesn’t go to UConn or St. John’s you don’t think that those 2 programs won’t find a big time player at the position? I don’t want our players to leave at all, if they do I could not care less if they do well or not.
Did it seem that way to you? It didn't to me. Just responding normally to a dumb statement.
Take it easy—we’re not making a Western here.
Yes we are. A Western Division for the Big East. Or else we’ll have to compromise for 20 years.
Yes, Rutgers of course is our true rival. And I hope they lose every single game they ever play. Against anyone. I literally hate them. I hate everything about them. I don't want our players going to them and I don't want any of their players. I hate their logo. I hate their name. I hate their colors. Whereas St. Johns is just another local team that I end up rooting for in the OOC and in the Tournament. How is that a rival? When they're not playing them I wish them the best, a salute.
Wasn’t a dumb statement, def was pretty frogging funny… you def got a little defensive there though
If you think Rutgers is a true rival currently this discussion is over.. is this Jerry Carino?
Not true at all. He could have played many more minutes per game if Sha chose to do it. We questioned why Payne was in there and not Hines at the end of many games. It was Sha's managing the game and not due to Hines being out of shape. Probably pissed Hines off.
You mean it was Sha saying I don’t want my big who can’t defend on perimeter out there against bigs who play on the perimeter. He should’ve just kept him out there anyway to get more minutes
Hines played much better against teams with traditional front lines, ie SJ, UCONN. Not as well versus teams like Creighton. For example he did not have a good game vs CU in the BET but was a force vs SJ in the semis. And yes I would have had him in to start the 2nd half in that game.
I don't think they are necessarily lying. Some might be, but everyone who says it also comes to realize that they have a very limited window of time to make life-changing money. Given that the NBA is not happening for almost any of them, and even lesser pro careers (in Europe, etc.) are not guaranteed, they are prioritizing (smartly, I think) their opportunity to pocket hundreds of thousands to several millions of dollars as 20- and 22-year-olds, or whatever each is. That is a tremendous way to start your 40-year odyssey of work, especially if you are coming from a background that offers no safety net whatsoever, as many of these players are.
And like Payne was better? He go eaten up by the other bigs just about every game.
Oh but he won the home game against Creighton with his muscle for the rebound and put back in the last seconds of the game.
Great you picked one play out of thousands vs bigs who play on the perimeter and it was an offensive play, not a defensive play where he would struggle. 20 seconds to go last shot where he doesn't have to play defense, I'd take him. The other 39 minutes and 40 seconds he's a liability in those situations.
This truly stinks. I hate when we changed the rule to allow conference schools to poach our players.
And Hurley raved about him being a foundational piece for Seton Hall after we almost beat them the first time around!
Well, if he has to go somewhere in conference better to keep it in the Seton Hall family then with Slick Rick!
