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RUPsyched

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My old geezer MBB rant for this year. So, Princeton beat Rutgers(Camden) last night. 94-28. What is the purpose of games against D3 and non-NCAA teams other than track practice? Why do these games count?

Looking up and down the results on the ESPN app. Many games against logoless teams with ungodly scores as a result. Do the players even like playing these kind of games?
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Maybe some schools want a home game and not have to pay for a school to come. Maybe Rutgers-Camden hit the bid to play for free.

…and heck yeah the players want to play, especially the guys at the end of the bench. It is fun to win.
 

RUHouston

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Princeton is a bunch of wusses if they want to gang up on RU Camden...let's see them come to the RAC and try that! (Yes, I nearly got into a fight in a Princeton bar for talking smack before an RU/Princeton hoops game in the '80s...)
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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You might win a fight w/a Princeton student. But probably not a chess match. 😉
methinks you credit Princeton too much... as well as the popularity of chess. Princeton's Russians might beat our Russians.. but average students?
 

Barnaby&Neill

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We had an exhibition against RU - Newark in the Rice era; 2011 I think. Want to say we beat USF in football the day before.

Back then I believe teams played one exhibition against a lower division school per year and it didn’t count toward the team’s record. Now I believe the games count on the record.
 

fluoxetine

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My old geezer MBB rant for this year. So, Princeton beat Rutgers(Camden) last night. 94-28. What is the purpose of games against D3 and non-NCAA teams other than track practice? Why do these games count?

Looking up and down the results on the ESPN app. Many games against logoless teams with ungodly scores as a result. Do the players even like playing these kind of games?
They don’t count in any meaningful sense of the word.
 

RUPsyched

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James Madison 135
Carlow College for special needs nuns 40.

So what did JMU learn from this game? Contrast this with Rutgers' weaknesses getting exposed by a competent low major.
 

kcg88

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James Madison 135
Carlow College for special needs nuns 40.

So what did JMU learn from this game? Contrast this with Rutgers' weaknesses getting exposed by a competent low major.
Confidence builder probably. Remember the Caldwell College game?
 

fluoxetine

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Really? Who? And under what circumstances?
I mean there are almost certainly lazy Princeton students whose main focus is partying. The average Princeton student is obviously smarter than the average Rutgers student, but from the comments in this thread I think you probably overestimate the degree.

The top Rutgers kids are just as smart as the top Princeton kids, there are just more of them at Princeton.
 

mildone_rivals

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I mean there are almost certainly lazy Princeton students whose main focus is partying. The average Princeton student is obviously smarter than the average Rutgers student, but from the comments in this thread I think you probably overestimate the degree.

The top Rutgers kids are just as smart as the top Princeton kids, there are just more of them at Princeton.
I know (for a fact) that some of the honors students at RU are just as smart as kids who attend Princeton or other Ivy's. For one thing, most, if not all, the Ivy's get far more "perfect" applications than they can ever accept. And they don't just accept students with perfect applications. So the kids who don't get accepted go elsewhere, including to RU.

Also, being "smart" is a bit of an ambiguous concept. Are we talking IQ? GPA? Accomplishment? All the above? Some kids don't come close to realizing their potential in HS but thrive in college. RU will have it's share of such kids, just like pretty much every other school out there.

And sure, some students in Ivy league schools will go through a period of laziness and partying. But that doesn't mean they aren't capable of a 4.0 at RU, which is what the post I responded to was implying. The vast majority of the students who are accepted into Princeton, or other Ivy's, could probably get 3.5s or higher at RU (or just about any other schools) in whatever area of study they've chosen, all else being equal. Just getting into those schools, which is the hardest part, generally indicates an unusually high level of capability and discipline and a fairly high level of raw intelligence.
 
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I know (for a fact) that some of the honors students at RU are just as smart as kids who attend Princeton or other Ivy's. For one thing, most, if not all, the Ivy's get far more "perfect" applications than they can ever accept. And they don't just accept students with perfect applications. So the kids who don't get accepted go elsewhere, including to RU.

Also, being "smart" is a bit of an ambiguous concept. Are we talking IQ? GPA? Accomplishment? All the above? Some kids don't come close to realizing their potential in HS but thrive in college. RU will have it's share of such kids, just like pretty much every other school out there.

And sure, some students in Ivy league schools will go through a period of laziness and partying. But that doesn't mean they aren't capable of a 4.0 at RU, which is what the post I responded to was implying. The vast majority of the students who are accepted into Princeton, or other Ivy's, could probably get 3.5s or higher at RU (or just about any other schools) in whatever area of study they've chosen, all else being equal. Just getting into those schools, which is the hardest part, generally indicates an unusually high level of capability and discipline and a fairly high level of raw intelligence.
At that level there isn't much separation. In addition, the smaller Ivies have a higher percentage of students as athletes.
 

mildone_rivals

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Just showing how clueless you are thinking they're on some other level
You couldn't even answer the question intelligently and I'm the one that's clueless? Okaydoke. 😃

Princeton is on a very different level, academically, than RU. Princeton is ranked #1. RU is ranked #63.


I'm not knocking RU at all; it's a fine school. Two of my kids did their undergraduate studies as honors students at RU. One's now a lawyer and the other's in a PhD program for Physical Therapy. RU served them very well.

But on the same level? By what metric? I anxiously await your next highly intelligent response. Don't hold back now, let me really have it. LOL
 
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