Steve Sarkisian rips Ole Miss for transfer portal practices, low academic standards - On3
Ole Miss is the easiest P4 school to get into. It's a joke.
Ole Miss is the easiest P4 school to get into. It's a joke.
He's right, you know.
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If I understand IHL rules, the admission standards at Ole Miss are exactly the same as at Mississippi State and any other Mississippi university. None are highly regarded academic institutions.
He was particularly talking about credits for a transfer portal player. Texas makes them go back and only get 50% credit for courses they've taken at other schools. OM gives them full credit, then books them into a simplistic course leading to a degree.
I've wondered how they handle transfer credit. For a normal student, it's not a given that all coursework will transfer. Nor should it. Sakisian was obviously taking a jab at an opponent, but he's right or at least tending in the right direction.
A university is first and foremost an academic institution.
Texas only gives a transfer 50% credit for classes completed elsewhere? So someone could come from Rice or Tulane or wherever and the clearly high standard classes they completed will only receive half credit?
A blanket rule like that sounds like Texas wanting to make students stay and pay longer.
I wish he was b*tch*ng about us taking recruits he wanted.
I've often wondered why transfer credit hours wasn't a bigger issue or point In these transfer rules.
Because thats always been the rule, for decades. "50%" is not the right terminology. Because back in my day it was you could transfer up to 64 hours towards a degree. Then you had to earn the next 64 credit hours at that institution to get a degree from that institution.
I'm surprised OM would offer a degree to someone earning less than 64 hours at their institution. Wait..... no I'm not. Got to win the game.
Because thats always been the rule, for decades. "50%" is not the right terminology. Because back in my day it was you could transfer up to 64 hours towards a degree. Then you had to earn the next 64 credit hours at that institution to get a degree from that institution.
I'm surprised OM would offer a degree to someone earning less than 64 hours at their institution. Wait..... no I'm not. Got to win the game.
Would have been easier just to admit that you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
Have y'all forgotten how to **** on a rival and not turn it into shitting on yourselves? Just go with it. Damn people.
Ayers Settlement
But in 1992, the Supreme Court sent the case back to Biggers’s court to address the issues of eliminating the effects of state-enforced segregation. Biggers ruled in 1995 that there were still vestiges of discrimination in Mississippi higher education.
Biggers was in charge of enforcing the Ayers settlement, which imposed the same admissions standards for all of Mississippi’s eight institutions of higher education – or what came to be called “open enrollment.” These standards were based on a combination of factors, including GPA and/or ACT, CPC and SAT scores.
But in 1992, the Supreme Court sent the case back to Biggers’s court to address the issues of eliminating the effects of state-enforced segregation. Biggers ruled in 1995 that there were still vestiges of discrimination in Mississippi higher education.
Biggers was in charge of enforcing the Ayers settlement, which imposed the same admissions standards for all of Mississippi’s eight institutions of higher education – or what came to be called “open enrollment.” These standards were based on a combination of factors, including GPA and/or ACT, CPC and SAT scores.
You've heard of penis envy? Some people around here have it for that huge bag of dicks in oxford.
I assume the bottom line is that he doesn't want UT handing out degrees to a player that only stay there one semester, then bolts.
Yeah, Sark’s comments were about transfer credits, not admissions. Mississippi will never have a top ranked public university as long as rankings include “exclusivity” and/or the Ayers decision stands.
If Sark is correct, then I can’t wait for a regular juco student to sue when Ole Miss only allows them to transfer 64 hours into a 128 hour degree program.
If Sark is correct, then I can’t wait for a regular juco student to sue when Ole Miss only allows them to transfer 64 hours into a 128 hour degree program.
Sark's an idiot. Per the University of Texas website, they do require 60 hours be completed at UTexas to receive a degree but accept all transfer credit. Ole Miss, State, and most of the universities in the country require 30 (25% of a 120-hour degree).
If you transfer to Texas with 30 hours, Texas accepts 30 hours and you need 90 hours to graduate.
If you transfer to Texas with 60 hours, Texas accepts 60 hours and you need 60 hours to graduate.
If you transfer to Texas with 90 hours, Texas accepts 60 hours, but you need 60 hours at Texas to graduate.
The only situation where Texas would drop 50% of a transfers hours (toward graduation) would be if someone transferred in with 120 hours, but did not meet requirements for a degree. His shot at Ole Miss (and by extension State) is intellectually dishonest.
If you transfer to Texas with 30 hours, Texas accepts 30 hours and you need 90 hours to graduate.
If you transfer to Texas with 60 hours, Texas accepts 60 hours and you need 60 hours to graduate.
If you transfer to Texas with 90 hours, Texas accepts 60 hours, but you need 60 hours at Texas to graduate.
The only situation where Texas would drop 50% of a transfers hours (toward graduation) would be if someone transferred in with 120 hours, but did not meet requirements for a degree. His shot at Ole Miss (and by extension State) is intellectually dishonest.
At least 50% of the degree earned at the school conferring the degree is standard industry practice.
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Oh, yeah- that is different from how I read the other post. I read the other post to say classes taken at other schools are only worth 50% of the credit earned.
And I thought it was pretty common for fewer hours to be required at the school a person transferred to, but admittedly I dont really keep up on it.
Sounds like Steve needs to go holler at his administration because clearly they ain't interested in doing what it's gonna take for the Horns to be able to win some bawl games!
No. 25% is standard
Ole Miss 25%
State 25%
Alabama 25%
Auburn 25%
Florida 25%
Tennessee 25%
Kentucky 25%
Arkansas 25%
LSU 25%
Mizzou 25%
Oklahoma 25%
Texas A&M 25%
South Carolina 25%
Only SEC schools where its not 30 hours (25%)
Georgia 45 hours (roughly 35%)
Texas 60 hours (50%)
Vanderbilt 60 hours (50%)
Sark's shot was unwarranted and could have been directed at damn near the entire Power 4.
Credits? The only credits most of these athletes have ever heard of are visa or Amex.
Confusion comes in with JUCO versus 4-year institution transfer. I don’t know of a school that allows more than 50% of credit from a JUCO to count towards a 4-year degree.
No. The 50% limit is on 2-year institution transfer. Say a student did their freshman and sophomore years at a juco and their junior year at an SEC school in mechanical engineering then moved to Mississippi for some reason. MSU would take all of those junior credits if the courses matched.