Thank you for proving my point. Hagans had no reason to test because he was a late second round to undrafted prospect. What decision did he have to make?
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Can you just ban yourself anyways
I would be surprised if he's top 20...always seem to be a few foreign players off the radar slip into the first round as well.
As opposed to the top ten classes who were juniors and seniors at UK who only won 4 titles in 50 years before Cal got here. You know- the same song same tune.
That’s false I said IF UCLA hired Watson go back and re read that my man. Nice try though
Wow, didn't really care before, but now I'm really hoping he does return.
I think Herro isn’t coming back. But obviously we will welcome him back with open arms if he does.
It’s funny when you tell people something they don’t wanna hear they whine and cry about it and attack. You guys kill me. There’s more to life than basketball . Kentucky is gonna be fine.
I'm old so forgive me but I used to look forward to a kid in his jr. and sr. years. Really was going to add. Now, seems that there are alot of Cats on the floor in alot of NBA games. Could have been. How about a thank-you letter from the NBA to the BBN? And good luck to Tyler. He's going to be fun to watch where ever he goes. FCC.
How else are we going to accommodate OP's ego?
I'm old enough , secure enough , with thick enough skin to not care about the mob .
That message TH posted, is as you would expect, and the smart thing to do.
Anyone that says he is "for sure gone" or he is "for sure returning" is just plain stupid!
Anyone with any chance at being drafted, even late 2nd round, SHOULD test the waters, see what the actual teams/scouts say you need to work on, or maybe you can even move yourself up far enough to get drafted where you want.
The draft rankings mean nothing!!!
It's all about what the teams tell you (or Coach Cal). If you return, how much higher could you reasonably be drafted, increasing your chances at getting more than just that 1st contract and at earning a bigger 1st contract.
Hagans announced he was coming back on Monday. He didn’t have a decision to make.
I know you don’t. You’re a good poster. I agree with most of your viewpoints on the program.
It's not that you're telling us what we don't want to hear, it's that you're acting as if you have some inside info. Most of us realize that Herto and KJ are likely gone. Anyone, like you, can guess at what will happen and have a chance of being correct.
Neither is coming back, IMO. And it should be no surprise to anyone. It’s UK.
Don’t say that . You’re not a insider. Hahaha just joking man. Yup it’s kentucky and these kids will stay in draft
Heck we've recently had guys like Briscoe leave for Estonia and Gabriel, who is a g-League'er. At any other school those guys would stick around. It's the culture that Cal's created here.
the silver lining to this dark cloud is: without Herro, we will not be burdened by unrealistic expectations.
You can now safely put me in the camp that believes it is impossible to win the NC, or maybe even get to the FF, without experienced guards. The ones we have coming back, without Herro, will STILL be too inexperienced.
You can now safely put me in the camp that believes it is impossible to win the NC, or maybe even get to the FF, without experienced guards. The ones we have coming back, without Herro, will STILL be too inexperienced.
I am sure that they have already received feedback advising them that it wouldn't be in their best interest to do so. What does an agent gain from a percentage of a piddly G League contract? Run the risk of ruining his or her reputation advising a kid that clearly isn't ready that they are to miss out on bigger names down the line? The friends and family issue has always been and will continue to be an issue independent of the new rule or feedback from NBA personnel.
Of course UK would be better with Herro back. Maybe he would be the difference between being a title contender and not having enough pieces to get over the hump. Which seems to be the cycle we are in...either the frosh aren’t really studs (or close enough) during thier first year and/or our returning talent isn’t quite good enough skill-wise.
But no one knows how good the Cats will be or can be. It may depend on whether the frosh are more like the 2017 group or the 2018 and 2019 group AND whether the returning guys make big leaps forward.
Cal keeps landing this type of kid precisely because the next group of 2nd tier guys see what he's done with guys in that 15-30 range:
SGA
Bledsoe
Liggins
Booker
Herro
The downside, as you noted, is that we're constantly in rinse and repeat mode with almost zero player retention.
This guy gives z71’s a bad name
I disagree about Hagans being the right piece. Last time Cal got a starting pg back we won 38 straight games. Quickley was solid and should be much improved. EJ should be much improved. Sestina should be a great addition.
So what might be hard for you to understand is that not everyone agrees with you. I think this will be a top 5-8 team and right in the mix, barring roster surprises.
I think, like this past year, they will be a title contender, though not a favorite. I don’t think a team like that has an Elite Eight ceiling, any more than I thought TT or Michigan State had an Elite Eight ceiling this past year.
Murray still committing to Oregon?
I agree that experienced guards are key to winning it all. I'd love for either Johnson or Herro return, but Hagans returning was best thing to happen for UK. (Also, best thing for Hagans.)
I like having Hagans, Quickley, and Baker. Throw Maxey in the equation and I think it's a good combination of experience and talent.
Looking long term, I think Quickley is exactly what UK needs with 3 yr player. I'd love to see him end up in the league after a great 3rd year. New slogan ... "Three & Flee."