Here’s what gets me
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Next year at the earliest. There's only so much you can do when you have a Tonkery-type player starting a LB. That's not a knock on Tonkery, he's obviously the best we have, but he isn't big or fast enough to play it. It's more an indictment on the recruiting level than anything. For a team wanting to compete for a B12 championship, the Tonkery's and Abbott's on the team need to be practice fodder, not first and second team players that are fodder for the JMU's of the world.
When the players are seasoned. Let me guess, you were a Romeo the first time you had a date that made to any base?
so you're saying this is the first time these players have played defense?
Where did I say it was their first time. I said they weren't seasoned as in experienced. You, like so many here want to drop turds today because you are emotional about something that you have no impact on. Women think like that, not men.
You have been around long enough that you should be seasoned on football. Yet, you act like your bills will go unpaid if things don't turn out exactly like you expect. Some of the posters here cry like five year olds, I did not think to count you among them.
what in the hell are you talking about and if anyone here is an emotional mess, it's you not me. so go grab a box of Kleenex, cry it all out, and figure out life. Me, I'm simply pointing out that our run defense blows donkey penis
It's a transition year. New coach. New personnel. New schemes. This is what's expected.
Observations
- Offensive and Defensive lines are bad. Real bad. Offensive line is slow and non-aggressive. They were manhandled all game long. Announcers were spot on in saying Missouri was just too quick for them, and how it altered our game plan because Kendall had no time to throw. Outside of Stills, the defensive line is small and poses no threat of a pass rush or stopping the run against quality competition.
- It's only two games in so far but Kendall looks to be in over his head. Maybe he's not cut for this level? Maybe now we're seeing why he didn't beat out Mayfield or Murray at OU? No rhythm on his throws. Accuracy was terrible. Mechanics looked more high school-ish if anything. Maybe part of this is the O-line, but he didn't really show me anything in terms of creating plays on his own.
- We will have a ton of difficulty running the ball if the O-line can't block. And if they can't open up holes for our RB's then we become really predicable. Bush, McKoy and Sinkfield are quick but essentially useless if we can't block for them. It's a shame because we know McKoy is a quality back.
- We've got guys to throw the ball to but do we have a QB to deliver it to them? Time for Lowe?
- No matter what happens this year Brown has got to get a pass until he gets his guys in here.
Observations
- Offensive and Defensive lines are bad. Real bad. Offensive line is slow and non-aggressive. They were manhandled all game long. Announcers were spot on in saying Missouri was just too quick for them, and how it altered our game plan because Kendall had no time to throw. Outside of Stills, the defensive line is small and poses no threat of a pass rush or stopping the run against quality competition.
- It's only two games in so far but Kendall looks to be in over his head. Maybe he's not cut for this level? Maybe now we're seeing why he didn't beat out Mayfield or Murray at OU? No rhythm on his throws. Accuracy was terrible. Mechanics looked more high school-ish if anything. Maybe part of this is the O-line, but he didn't really show me anything in terms of creating plays on his own.
- We will have a ton of difficulty running the ball if the O-line can't block. And if they can't open up holes for our RB's then we become really predicable. Bush, McKoy and Sinkfield are quick but essentially useless if we can't block for them. It's a shame because we know McKoy is a quality back.
- We've got guys to throw the ball to but do we have a QB to deliver it to them? Time for Lowe?
- No matter what happens this year Brown has got to get a pass until he gets his guys in here.
he would have been good in the 80's..but not today. he plays a lot like Chris Haering
Brown definitely gets a pass. And he should get a pass. I do disagree that this kind of year potentially was expected. No way the AD thought a joke Mizzo team that lost to Wyoming was gonna whack us.
Not what you are doing at all. I am calm. You are the one using pejoratives and emotional jargon. Man up if you dislike the criticism.
Exactly on the Tonkery answer Sorry but reality is reality, reality is you're not winning big time football when youre one locked in linebacker spot post camp is Tonkery. This isn't Bridgeport vs Bluefield, better strength and athleticism at linebacker is needed amd that's just fact
Okay Susie how are you feeling this morning? Cry it all out? Ready to face the day with a smile and a song?
If its “ whats expected”. How were Oklahoma and ISU able to do so well year one with new coaching staffs?
Its only “ whats expected” because some cant admit the present staff isnt getting it done.
Its only “ whats expected” because some cant admit the present staff isnt getting it done.
Because those prior staffs didnt leave the cupboard empty on their way out like dana did.
But feel free to keep hating on Brown and his staff if that makes you feel better.
What exactly is the definition of well? You do realize that Matt Campbell was 3-9 his 1st year at ISU.
Isn’t getting it done?
Are you seriously shitting me? We have nothing on the OLine, which has been an ongoing issue since our last OL coach was brought on.
Without good line play, it all falls apart. Now you’re trying to implement a new offense with no holes to run through and no time to set up the pass.
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DH didn't leave any bare cupboard. He left a team that just competed for the conference championship up until the final week.
Several players moved onto the NFL, but there were 9 players--many KEY starters that THIS coach chased off.
If his cupboard is bare, its because NEAL BROWN EMPTIED IT.
and no, there hasn't been a coach at WVU, maybe in history of the program, that only coached up 64 yds TOTAL rushing in two weeks of football.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with Holgorsen--but go ahead and keep on hating him while this new coach takes WVUs program from a contender to the toilet.
I can tell you what its not--the debacle we saw the first two weeks.
34 and 30 yards rushing? That's got to go in the (negative) history books for WVU. What coach anywhere can only coach a P5 team to 64 total yards over TWO weeks of football?
What does this reply have to do with the original reply I gave you? You stated that ISU saw improvement in there 1st year under Matt Campbell. That is a lie they were 3-9. You have stated on many occasions that Brown ran off players which has already been debunked. If you hate Brown well that's your right but stop telling lies to promote your trolling agenda. Anyone who would make a judgement after 2 games is irrational. Years 2 and 3 were regressions under DH. It took him 4 seasons to find his stability.
No one has debunked Brown running off players-- it happened and they left. ISU rapidly improved and defeated not one but two top ten teams--2nd year, but they were not good before that. WVU was good last year and contended for the conference until the final game.
You can make up excuses all you want, this years coaching effort may be the worst ever at WVU. Horrid so far, and no reason WVU has to be bad for three years when they were just on the cusp of breaking through to a conference CCG and championship.
ISU did improve year 2 but you stated year 1 which was a lie. People have posted 2 articles directly to you debunking that Brown ran off players and you continue to tell that lie. Last years team had a pro qb, 2 wide receivers that were in nfl camps. An O lineman now in the NFL. This years team has nothing like that. Now that you have acknowledged your ISU lie how do you know we won't see improvement in year 2? You don't want to see improvement you hate Brown. Everyone can see your agenda a mile away.
So the defensive line puts pressure on the QB and gets sacks so they're no good. I think you need to look at the LB more than anything.
Dumbass. I showed you multiple times who left and reasons why they left. You have one agenda and that's to put down Brown and jerk off Holgorsen.
It's been 2 games yet you claim it to be an entire coaching career already. Your boy lover Holgs left Brown with a Ford Pinto of a team.