How is it benefitting Ole Miss to keep the NOA under wraps now? I understand not releasing it prior to signing day, but why since then? The details continue to leak out, coaches lose jobs, statements released by Ole Miss are revealed as carefully worded to obfuscate at best or downright dishonest at worst, and people in the national media continue to dig and speculate, which is keeping the story going more often and longer than it might otherwise, and making it harder for Ole Miss to control the narrative (at least in any believable manner). It seems like many of these ongoing PR issues would be minimized by releasing the NOA and putting out a statement saying they're fighting the allegations which are not meritorious or something generic like that.
Help me understand the Ole Miss strategy here
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I don`t get it either unless they are trying to do some sort of behind the scenes damage control prior to it`s release. I can`t fathom what it would be but they have never been a "look you in the eye and tell the truth" type group. I guess this is just more of their sneaky, deceitful modus operandi .
My opinion of it all is fairly elementary.... At this point, you have three guys who have put their ENTIRE necks out on the line during this mess. Rosebowl, Yancy, and Bjork. The first two, at the end of the day, don't particularly matter, as their "reputation" quite honestly only reflects on them personally, as opposed to an entire university. What I mean by that is that for Steve, their are three options:
1. He is genuinely tired of his character/professionalism being called into question, his source is solid, and OM is in very real trouble
2. His source is crap and he's being led down a bottomless rabbit hole
3. He has no source and is a bitter, vindictive man who's guessed right so far.
For Yancy:
1. He's had enough of Rosie stirring up crap that really isn't there to stir and finally called him on it
2. He's had enough of Rosie stirring up crap that HE REALLY BELIEVES isn't there (according to HIS sources) and finally called him on it
3. He is toeing the party line accordingly, simply to not be the dissenting voice (I completely disagree with this practice, but get it) but knows it's going to get bad soon enough
For Bjork, it is MUCH MUCH more of an issue. Porter and Robertson work for websites. Bjork is the face of OM athletics. Therefore, he has EVERYTHING on the line by having come out and said what he has so far:
1. He is telling the absolute truth, and they are holding the NOA in spite of the fact that there is nothing terrible in it. All the speculation in the world does NO HARM when the university and its fans are as united as they are, for which I give them credit. If this is indeed what OM is doing, it is absolutely brilliant, and the greatest PR stunt in history. Think of how it will make the other schools look.
2. He is over his head and doesn't fully know what is going on (I don't believe this at all)
3. His strings are being pulled and he isn't strong enough to fight it
4. His strings are being pulled and he doesn't WANT to fight it
5. He is legal-speaking to the point that everything he is saying is 100% legally not false but still not totally forth-coming
6. He's in on it and is lying his head off just to delay and hope
Keep in mind, again, that he has publicly, repeatedly stated that everything is over and BASICALLY all will be fine. If #6 is true.......I can't imagine how he would ever find work again in D1 athletics.
Freeze, in a large sense, hasn't said a WORD, and thusly isn't going to look like a complete idiot if it all falls apart (other than the obvious, of course) but Bjork is going to get hammered for just being an outright liar.
At the end of the day, it won't matter if Rosebowl OR Porter are wrong, ultimately. Steve may get a new nickname and Porter will just be more unlikeable than he is now, but only to opposing fans. Life will go on.
SOMEBODY is going to look like a cross-eyed circus monkey when all this is over. It will be interesting to see who that somebody will be.
1. He is genuinely tired of his character/professionalism being called into question, his source is solid, and OM is in very real trouble
2. His source is crap and he's being led down a bottomless rabbit hole
3. He has no source and is a bitter, vindictive man who's guessed right so far.
For Yancy:
1. He's had enough of Rosie stirring up crap that really isn't there to stir and finally called him on it
2. He's had enough of Rosie stirring up crap that HE REALLY BELIEVES isn't there (according to HIS sources) and finally called him on it
3. He is toeing the party line accordingly, simply to not be the dissenting voice (I completely disagree with this practice, but get it) but knows it's going to get bad soon enough
For Bjork, it is MUCH MUCH more of an issue. Porter and Robertson work for websites. Bjork is the face of OM athletics. Therefore, he has EVERYTHING on the line by having come out and said what he has so far:
1. He is telling the absolute truth, and they are holding the NOA in spite of the fact that there is nothing terrible in it. All the speculation in the world does NO HARM when the university and its fans are as united as they are, for which I give them credit. If this is indeed what OM is doing, it is absolutely brilliant, and the greatest PR stunt in history. Think of how it will make the other schools look.
2. He is over his head and doesn't fully know what is going on (I don't believe this at all)
3. His strings are being pulled and he isn't strong enough to fight it
4. His strings are being pulled and he doesn't WANT to fight it
5. He is legal-speaking to the point that everything he is saying is 100% legally not false but still not totally forth-coming
6. He's in on it and is lying his head off just to delay and hope
Keep in mind, again, that he has publicly, repeatedly stated that everything is over and BASICALLY all will be fine. If #6 is true.......I can't imagine how he would ever find work again in D1 athletics.
Freeze, in a large sense, hasn't said a WORD, and thusly isn't going to look like a complete idiot if it all falls apart (other than the obvious, of course) but Bjork is going to get hammered for just being an outright liar.
At the end of the day, it won't matter if Rosebowl OR Porter are wrong, ultimately. Steve may get a new nickname and Porter will just be more unlikeable than he is now, but only to opposing fans. Life will go on.
SOMEBODY is going to look like a cross-eyed circus monkey when all this is over. It will be interesting to see who that somebody will be.
Not sure why you have 3 options on Steve.
If he's throwing **** on the wall and hoping it sticks and he's gotten everything right so far then he is a professional **** thrower. I don't think anyone is questioning if Steve has sources. It's obvious he does and even ole miss people agree that he does.
As far as all the other stuff, yancy is a puppet for ole miss so you can't believe a damn word he says. He says what he's told to say. And if ole miss is facing major sanctions from the current staff, it doesn't really matter what bdork says because he will never be an athletic director again. He might could withstand one sport getting major sanctions but right now they are looking at 3 sports. As an athletic director that's suppose to over see all athletic programs, it sure doesn't look like you are doing your job if you have 3 major sanctions in 3 different sports. So bdork has nothing to lose if he's flat out lying.
If he's throwing **** on the wall and hoping it sticks and he's gotten everything right so far then he is a professional **** thrower. I don't think anyone is questioning if Steve has sources. It's obvious he does and even ole miss people agree that he does.
As far as all the other stuff, yancy is a puppet for ole miss so you can't believe a damn word he says. He says what he's told to say. And if ole miss is facing major sanctions from the current staff, it doesn't really matter what bdork says because he will never be an athletic director again. He might could withstand one sport getting major sanctions but right now they are looking at 3 sports. As an athletic director that's suppose to over see all athletic programs, it sure doesn't look like you are doing your job if you have 3 major sanctions in 3 different sports. So bdork has nothing to lose if he's flat out lying.
Could they just be throwing proposals at the NCAA to see how much they can remedy with self imposed sanctions before the release ?
I've had a sense from the beginning that they are going to go down swinging, and nothing is changing that. Don't be surprised to see a strategy very similar to the OJ defense team's... putting the system itself on trial. I don't know if they are going to be successful, but the amount of deflection they are showing before any charges have even been made public makes me more and more confident that they are going to fight this like nobody has fought the NCAA before.
If the NOA doesn't have any surprises as UM has stated then I don't see why they wouldn't release it and face the consequences. Right now their name is being dragged through the mud with all the speculation. So I can't see how it benefits them to to prolong the process IF there is nothing to the allegations. If I were a family of a new recruit I'd be pissed right now being in the dark, not knowing what will happen for sure.
With that said I feel like there must be substantial concern by UM with the approach they are taking. From a legal standpoint, for a case that has severe consequences, it's a common strategy to delay as long as possible to soften the blow.
With that said I feel like there must be substantial concern by UM with the approach they are taking. From a legal standpoint, for a case that has severe consequences, it's a common strategy to delay as long as possible to soften the blow.
Maybe, but the NCAA hammered usc. Ole miss (sec connections or not) is no where near as important to the NCAA as usc. Oh and if Saban really is turning om in repeatedly, the sec will not go to bat for om at the expense of pissing off the sec's bell cow. That said, I don't think om gets hammered too hard unless the evidence really is "damning" as Texas said
The strategy is delay then deny and make the NCAA flat out prove it. This is the Auburn model and it works very well. The best thing OM can do is drag this out as long as possible. If they get into next season with no decision and they are ranked top 10 again, then their chances are really low of being heavily punished. Plus, I agree with Shmuley that the SEC will get involved to help them out soon, if not already.
Saban doesn't want them crippled. He wants them to stay in their lane. Leave his 3-5 five stars alone, stay just relevant enough not to negatively affect his strength of schedule, and roll over when he comes after the #1 kid in Mississippi even if he's in batesville (Tony Conner). Birmingham will not let them get hammered to Helen back.
Delay. Deny. Destroy evidence. Bribe off witnesses. Make the toothless NCAA prove their case.
They have been delaying Jackie for a decade or so now.
Why mess with what is proven to work.
They have been delaying Jackie for a decade or so now.
Why mess with what is proven to work.
I don't believe this one bit.
The evidence says differently. There has only been one team crippling to Alabama the last two years and that's been Ole Miss. The SEC West is strong enough that one team being hit hard with sanctions is not going to affect Alabama strength of schedule especially with the power 5 schedule rule in place. If Saban was trying to just give ole miss a warning then the Bo scarbrough would be enough but now he's adding Carter in there so now you have Tunsil, scarbrough and now Carter. That to me screams Saban wanting to cripple ole miss football. If the NCAA has 3 players being offered money to come to Ole Miss, how can they not be hit hard? And that's not counting Chris Jones along with their recruits this season. Plus you add Ole Miss taking the top recruits out of other states so now you aren't just pissing off Bama and Georgia. I don't see it ending well but either way it will slow down Ole Miss because if they just get probation, they won't risk repeat offender status.
It's the Hillary Clinton Benghazi strategy
Send four of your own folks to their deaths, then blame it on a video.
Send four of your own folks to their deaths, then blame it on a video.
But this goes to defending against the allegations, and I'm trying to understand the PR aspect of not just releasing the NOA and then vigorously defending. If they had done that, they would control the timing and messaging. Instead, it all comes out slowly, keeping it in the news longer, and making it harder for Ole Miss to frame the national story about them. It seems to me to be like destroying evidence when you have an ongoing lawsuit - almost nothing in the evidence (NOA) is going to be as bad as the assumptions people will make when it's not available.
I think Ole Miss is stalling to find out if the character Conrad Brean was actually based on a real person---and if so see if they can hire him.
"This is nothing, this is NOTHING! I was shooting The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, 3 of the Horsemen DIED 2 weeks before the end of principle photography---this is nothing, piece of cake!"
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"This is nothing, this is NOTHING! I was shooting The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, 3 of the Horsemen DIED 2 weeks before the end of principle photography---this is nothing, piece of cake!"
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Or they could be waiting for the final production work to get finished on "Blindside 2 : turning a Blind eye"
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