Head Coaches (future hires)

[MADHAT1]

Coaches to keep your eye out for to take the jobs that the current coach leaves to take over a major program
I stole this list from a Football Scoop article ( link below)I read.

Scott Abel, Rice (55): A college baseball player, Abel learned football as a Virginia high school coach, then went 39-24 as the head coach at Washington & Lee from 2012-17 and 47-28 at Davidson from 2018-24. He's currently 4-4 in his first season at Rice -- a school that last enjoyed a winning season in 2014. Abel's gun option offense might be an issue for a program that feels like it needs to recruit NFL players to win, but it would be an asset for a program that wants to win and figure out the rest later.
Bob Chesney, James Madison (48): How many of you can pinpoint Salve Regina and Assumption on a map? Chesney can; he went 67-25 there from 2010-17. Chesney then went 44-21 from 2018-23 at Holy Cross, and is now 15-5 at Cignetti's own James Madison. Their last names even begin with the same letter!
Chris Creighton, Eastern Michigan (56): If you're not impressed by Creighton's 59 wins across 12 seasons at Eastern Michigan, it's because you're not familiar with Eastern Michigan. The Eagles enjoyed two bowl trips -- ever -- before he took them to the 2016 Bahamas Bowl, and they've been five times since. Creighton got the job by going 32-9 at Ottawa University, 63-15 at Wabash College, and 44-22 at Drake.

Matt Drinkall, Central Michigan (42): Drinkall went 42-17 as the head coach at Kansas Wesleyan from 2014-18, then spent six seasons in a variety of roles at Army helping Monken modernize his offense. He's now 5-3 in Year 1 at Central Michigan, equaling the Chips' highest win total over the past three seasons.
Jason Eck, New Mexico (48): Eck took the offensive line job at Winona State in 2007, and in the 18 years between '07 and 2024, he spent all but two at the sub-FBS level. He grinded his way to FBS, including a 26-13 3-year run as Idaho's head coach, where his five wins have already matched UNM's high-water mark since 2016.
Charles Huff, Southern Miss (42): Huff isn't as far along in his head coaching career as Cignetti, but both coached an offensive skill position under Saban, and Huff "pulled a Cignetti" by winning the Sun Belt at Marshall, then bringing much of that team with him to Southern Miss, where he's currently 6-2 in Year 1.
Sean Lewis, San Diego State (39): Lewis's 24-31 mark at Kent State must be judged on on a Sandy Koufax curve. His two 7-win seasons are tied for the second most since 1976, and the program has won four games total since his 2022 departure. In Year 2 at SDSU, he's taken the Aztecs from 3-9 to 6-1.
Jerry Mack, Kennesaw State (45): Mack won three straight MEAC championships in his 30s at North Carolina Central, then jumped up a level to become Rice's offensive coordinator. It took longer that he probably expected -- seven years, including a stop as an NFL assistant -- before landing his first FBS head coaching job, but in Year 1 at Kennesaw State he's 5-2 and tied for first in C-USA. The Owls went 2-10 last season.
Eric Morris, North Texas (40): Morris is crafting an argument to be the most successful Mike Leach disciple. He got Incarnate Word's program up and running (Morris went 24-18 with two FCS playoff appearances, the two head coaches prior to him were 30-64), put Cam Ward on the FBS map in one season at Washington State, and has progressed from 5-7, to 6-7, to 7-1 and counting at North Texas. Morris has more QB identification and development skins on the wall than anyone in college football next to Lincoln Riley. After Drew Mestemaker into a star after last starting a game on the Freshman B-team, Morris's next act should be to put up 40 points with an actual Freshman B-team quarterback.
Willie Simmons, FIU (45): Simmons went 21-11 at Prairie View A&M from 2015-17, and 45-13 at Florida A&M from 2018-23. He bet on himself in 2024 by taking the running backs job at Duke, and is now 3-4 in Year 1 at FIU. Two more victories would qualify as the Golden Panthers' most successful season since 2019.

https://footballscoop.com/2025/10/28/curt-cignetti-candidates-2025-26-fbs-head-coaching-jobs-cycle

 

[rutgersguy2]

Coaches to keep your eye out for to take the jobs that the current coach leaves to take over a major program
I stole this list from a Football Scoop article ( link below)I read.

Scott Abel, Rice (55): A college baseball player, Abel learned football as a Virginia high school coach, then went 39-24 as the head coach at Washington & Lee from 2012-17 and 47-28 at Davidson from 2018-24. He's currently 4-4 in his first season at Rice -- a school that last enjoyed a winning season in 2014. Abel's gun option offense might be an issue for a program that feels like it needs to recruit NFL players to win, but it would be an asset for a program that wants to win and figure out the rest later.
Bob Chesney, James Madison (48): How many of you can pinpoint Salve Regina and Assumption on a map? Chesney can; he went 67-25 there from 2010-17. Chesney then went 44-21 from 2018-23 at Holy Cross, and is now 15-5 at Cignetti's own James Madison. Their last names even begin with the same letter!
Chris Creighton, Eastern Michigan (56): If you're not impressed by Creighton's 59 wins across 12 seasons at Eastern Michigan, it's because you're not familiar with Eastern Michigan. The Eagles enjoyed two bowl trips -- ever -- before he took them to the 2016 Bahamas Bowl, and they've been five times since. Creighton got the job by going 32-9 at Ottawa University, 63-15 at Wabash College, and 44-22 at Drake.

Matt Drinkall, Central Michigan (42): Drinkall went 42-17 as the head coach at Kansas Wesleyan from 2014-18, then spent six seasons in a variety of roles at Army helping Monken modernize his offense. He's now 5-3 in Year 1 at Central Michigan, equaling the Chips' highest win total over the past three seasons.
Jason Eck, New Mexico (48): Eck took the offensive line job at Winona State in 2007, and in the 18 years between '07 and 2024, he spent all but two at the sub-FBS level. He grinded his way to FBS, including a 26-13 3-year run as Idaho's head coach, where his five wins have already matched UNM's high-water mark since 2016.
Charles Huff, Southern Miss (42): Huff isn't as far along in his head coaching career as Cignetti, but both coached an offensive skill position under Saban, and Huff "pulled a Cignetti" by winning the Sun Belt at Marshall, then bringing much of that team with him to Southern Miss, where he's currently 6-2 in Year 1.
Sean Lewis, San Diego State (39): Lewis's 24-31 mark at Kent State must be judged on on a Sandy Koufax curve. His two 7-win seasons are tied for the second most since 1976, and the program has won four games total since his 2022 departure. In Year 2 at SDSU, he's taken the Aztecs from 3-9 to 6-1.
Jerry Mack, Kennesaw State (45): Mack won three straight MEAC championships in his 30s at North Carolina Central, then jumped up a level to become Rice's offensive coordinator. It took longer that he probably expected -- seven years, including a stop as an NFL assistant -- before landing his first FBS head coaching job, but in Year 1 at Kennesaw State he's 5-2 and tied for first in C-USA. The Owls went 2-10 last season.
Eric Morris, North Texas (40): Morris is crafting an argument to be the most successful Mike Leach disciple. He got Incarnate Word's program up and running (Morris went 24-18 with two FCS playoff appearances, the two head coaches prior to him were 30-64), put Cam Ward on the FBS map in one season at Washington State, and has progressed from 5-7, to 6-7, to 7-1 and counting at North Texas. Morris has more QB identification and development skins on the wall than anyone in college football next to Lincoln Riley. After Drew Mestemaker into a star after last starting a game on the Freshman B-team, Morris's next act should be to put up 40 points with an actual Freshman B-team quarterback.
Willie Simmons, FIU (45): Simmons went 21-11 at Prairie View A&M from 2015-17, and 45-13 at Florida A&M from 2018-23. He bet on himself in 2024 by taking the running backs job at Duke, and is now 3-4 in Year 1 at FIU. Two more victories would qualify as the Golden Panthers' most successful season since 2019.

https://footballscoop.com/2025/10/28/curt-cignetti-candidates-2025-26-fbs-head-coaching-jobs-cycle

I've mentioned bunch of those guys here. I like some of those names, especially for lower status P4 schools.

Fans get too caught up in the shiny objects. Shiny objects have as much chance of failure/success as the overlooked objects. These are the kind of coaches as a school you'd also have more leverage to negotiate a fair to both sides deal as well, as opposed to the shiny object coach. Used the saved money on head coaching salary towards the staff and revenue sharing with players.

With the amount of openings expected this year, I'd expect some of these guys to get P4 jobs because of domino/trickle down effects.

Chesney and Lewis, and maybe Eck are names I think have some potential in particular. I knew about that Kent State stat for Lewis and that's a positive imo if you're a lower status school. Winning at hard to win places is a good characteristic to have and he actually had a winning conference record in the MAC. GJ Kinne wasn’t on that list but he might have some potential too.

I also kind of wonder if the IU coordinators Shanahan and Gaines get some attention off the Cignetti tree. They've been with him since his IUP days, so a lot of time to learn and develop with CC. They could be the next Elko types who came up from the lower levels alongside Dave Clawson. Elko went on to be DC at ND and A&M without Clawson before jumping to Duke. So these guys might be in a little earlier stage in their careers but might be worth the shot if they can keep it up at IU.

 

[drewbagel423]

Candidate pool is going to look completely different in two years when the buyout is finally digestible. #FuckHobbs

 

[Colbert17!]

Coaches to keep your eye out for to take the jobs that the current coach leaves to take over a major program
I stole this list from a Football Scoop article ( link below)I read.

Scott Abel, Rice (55): A college baseball player, Abel learned football as a Virginia high school coach, then went 39-24 as the head coach at Washington & Lee from 2012-17 and 47-28 at Davidson from 2018-24. He's currently 4-4 in his first season at Rice -- a school that last enjoyed a winning season in 2014. Abel's gun option offense might be an issue for a program that feels like it needs to recruit NFL players to win, but it would be an asset for a program that wants to win and figure out the rest later.
Bob Chesney, James Madison (48): How many of you can pinpoint Salve Regina and Assumption on a map? Chesney can; he went 67-25 there from 2010-17. Chesney then went 44-21 from 2018-23 at Holy Cross, and is now 15-5 at Cignetti's own James Madison. Their last names even begin with the same letter!
Chris Creighton, Eastern Michigan (56): If you're not impressed by Creighton's 59 wins across 12 seasons at Eastern Michigan, it's because you're not familiar with Eastern Michigan. The Eagles enjoyed two bowl trips -- ever -- before he took them to the 2016 Bahamas Bowl, and they've been five times since. Creighton got the job by going 32-9 at Ottawa University, 63-15 at Wabash College, and 44-22 at Drake.

Matt Drinkall, Central Michigan (42): Drinkall went 42-17 as the head coach at Kansas Wesleyan from 2014-18, then spent six seasons in a variety of roles at Army helping Monken modernize his offense. He's now 5-3 in Year 1 at Central Michigan, equaling the Chips' highest win total over the past three seasons.
Jason Eck, New Mexico (48): Eck took the offensive line job at Winona State in 2007, and in the 18 years between '07 and 2024, he spent all but two at the sub-FBS level. He grinded his way to FBS, including a 26-13 3-year run as Idaho's head coach, where his five wins have already matched UNM's high-water mark since 2016.
Charles Huff, Southern Miss (42): Huff isn't as far along in his head coaching career as Cignetti, but both coached an offensive skill position under Saban, and Huff "pulled a Cignetti" by winning the Sun Belt at Marshall, then bringing much of that team with him to Southern Miss, where he's currently 6-2 in Year 1.
Sean Lewis, San Diego State (39): Lewis's 24-31 mark at Kent State must be judged on on a Sandy Koufax curve. His two 7-win seasons are tied for the second most since 1976, and the program has won four games total since his 2022 departure. In Year 2 at SDSU, he's taken the Aztecs from 3-9 to 6-1.
Jerry Mack, Kennesaw State (45): Mack won three straight MEAC championships in his 30s at North Carolina Central, then jumped up a level to become Rice's offensive coordinator. It took longer that he probably expected -- seven years, including a stop as an NFL assistant -- before landing his first FBS head coaching job, but in Year 1 at Kennesaw State he's 5-2 and tied for first in C-USA. The Owls went 2-10 last season.
Eric Morris, North Texas (40): Morris is crafting an argument to be the most successful Mike Leach disciple. He got Incarnate Word's program up and running (Morris went 24-18 with two FCS playoff appearances, the two head coaches prior to him were 30-64), put Cam Ward on the FBS map in one season at Washington State, and has progressed from 5-7, to 6-7, to 7-1 and counting at North Texas. Morris has more QB identification and development skins on the wall than anyone in college football next to Lincoln Riley. After Drew Mestemaker into a star after last starting a game on the Freshman B-team, Morris's next act should be to put up 40 points with an actual Freshman B-team quarterback.
Willie Simmons, FIU (45): Simmons went 21-11 at Prairie View A&M from 2015-17, and 45-13 at Florida A&M from 2018-23. He bet on himself in 2024 by taking the running backs job at Duke, and is now 3-4 in Year 1 at FIU. Two more victories would qualify as the Golden Panthers' most successful season since 2019.

https://footballscoop.com/2025/10/28/curt-cignetti-candidates-2025-26-fbs-head-coaching-jobs-cycle

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Some interesting potential candidates.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Candidate pool is going to look completely different in two years when the buyout is finally digestible. #FuckHobbs

Does anyone know if his buyout is similar to Franklin. Requires him to seek comparable employment- which is why Franklin’s buyout is digestible- it is going to cost pSU almost nothing

 

[ScarletDave]

next coach needs to be a HEAD coach already who WON games. No coordinators, no learning on the job. Let the coordinators learn on the job in the MAC and CUSA. This is the Big Ten, that plus SEC the most coveted jobs in CFB. We need to hire someone who was a HC and who WON a ton of games. Whether its someone from the AAC, MAC, Sun Belt or wherever that’s what we need to get.

 

[Knight Shift]

Does anyone know if his buyout is similar to Franklin. Requires him to seek comparable employment- which is why Franklin’s buyout is digestible- it is going to cost pSU almost nothing

Does it really matter? Who would hire him at a comparable salary? His best hope if canned is to pick up DC job at a top P5 for $1.8-2.5M/year, putting a small dent in the buyout amount. I did the math in a thread a week or two ago, If Rutgers does not get a break the bank HC and an up and comer from the G5, it would not cost THAT much more for the buyout versus paying him his full salary (his buyout salary is reduced 20-30%), when you factor in lost ticket sales and donations if the program continues to do badly under him.

 

[Knight Shift]

I've mentioned bunch of those guys here. I like some of those names, especially for lower status P4 schools.

Fans get too caught up in the shiny objects. Shiny objects have as much chance of failure/success as the overlooked objects. These are the kind of coaches as a school you'd also have more leverage to negotiate a fair to both sides deal as well, as opposed to the shiny object coach. Used the saved money on head coaching salary towards the staff and revenue sharing with players.

With the amount of openings expected this year, I'd expect some of these guys to get P4 jobs because of domino/trickle down effects.

Chesney and Lewis, and maybe Eck are names I think have some potential in particular. I knew about that Kent State stat for Lewis and that's a positive imo if you're a lower status school. Winning at hard to win places is a good characteristic to have and he actually had a winning conference record in the MAC. GJ Kinne wasn’t on that list but he might have some potential too.

I also kind of wonder if the IU coordinators Shanahan and Gaines get some attention off the Cignetti tree. They've been with him since his IUP days, so a lot of time to learn and develop with CC. They could be the next Elko types who came up from the lower levels alongside Dave Clawson. Elko went on to be DC at ND and A&M without Clawson before jumping to Duke. So these guys might be in a little earlier stage in their careers but might be worth the shot if they can keep it up at IU.

Is Jason Candle still on the list?

 

[Knight Shift]

Good (paywalled) article, a few snippets--major takeaway- there are not enough quality candidates to fill all the top school openings-quite the dilemma:

Honestly, the closest thing to a sure thing in the entire profession right now may be Willie Fritz. Much like Indiana’s Curt Cignetti or Alabama’s Kalen DeBoer, he’s won at one stop after another after another — Blinn Junior College (juco), Central Missouri (Division II), Sam Houston State (FCS), Georgia Southern (Sun Belt), Tulane (American) and now Houston (Big 12), which has jumped from 4-8 to 7-1 in his second season.

But Fritz is 65 and entirely unflashy,

One coach who may fit the Cignetti/DeBoer profile: James Madison’s Bob Chesney. The 48-year-old Pennsylvania native has spent the past 15 years climbing the ladder from Division III (Salve Regina) to D-II (Assumption) to FCS (Holy Cross) to FBS (James Madison). His career winning percentage is .712. On paper, he’s an ideal candidate for Penn State.

There are far more college football jobs on the market than quality coaches

Will the lack of splashy candidates this hiring just doom the cycle to repeat itself?

www.nytimes.com

 

[redking]

I followed Deion Sanders Jr's Youtube channel when Deion Sr was first hired because I have family in Boulder. Sean Lewis caught my eye and I wasn't surprised he was hired as a head coach so quickly.

The only red flag about him is he's a Wisconsin alum, so that's probably his dream job. Any job in between would be a stepping stone.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Is Jason Candle still on the list?

Sure he’s got the about the same record as Pinkel did there. He’s just not as up there as some others for me but he could work fine and the guys I like could bomb. Who knows. As long as the resume is worthy that’s all you can ask for but doing things at multiple places or over a long period of time where faces change is a good criteria. Demonstration of more with less is good too. Take your best guess and hope for the best.

 

[Section124]

Candidate pool is going to look completely different in two years when the buyout is finally digestible. #FuckHobbs

Hobbs was not great but don’t get the F Hobbs in this reference. He didn’t even want Schiano and got bullied into hiring him. Blame the big donors here.

 

[rutgersguy2]

I followed Deion Sanders Jr's Youtube channel when Deion Sr was first hired because I have family in Boulder. Sean Lewis caught my eye and I wasn't surprised he was hired as a head coach so quickly.

The only red flag about him is he's a Wisconsin alum, so that's probably his dream job. Any job in between would be a stepping stone.

I thought he might have some potential after Kent State and first noticed him at Bowling Green/Cuse with Babers.

His time at Colorado wasn’t good but that could’ve been a fit with Deion and his son kind of thing too. Like his fast pace offense (Briles type) but that can be a double edged sword like we saw at Colorado. If it’s in rhythm it’s great but if not it can put a strain on the defense.

Funny enough, his offense has actually taken some time to get on track at SDSU but his defense has been very good. Near the top of the country. Maybe there’s been some evolution there and he’s finding different ways to win which is a good thing too.

edit: should also mention that Lewis' offense would be whatever Fickell tried for the Wisconsin offense but on steroids lol.

 

[Captain Hogleg]

Chesney and Simmons are the coaches I’m familiar with on that list. I don’t see a way that someone doesn’t hire Chesney and his staff after this year. JMU is a tightly run program that might end up in the CFP. Very good QB and best defense in the FBS. Actually the whole team might be the best in FBS. Excellent program that continues what Cignetti started. Va Tech probably takes a long look at him. Simmons needs another year, but trending in a good direction.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Chesney and Simmons are the coaches I’m familiar with on that list. I don’t see a way that someone doesn’t hire Chesney and his staff after this year. JMU is a tightly run program that might end up in the CFP. Very good QB and best defense in the FBS. Actually the whole team might be the best in FBS. Excellent program that continues what Cignetti started. Va Tech probably takes a long look at him. Simmons needs another year, but trending in a good direction.

I don’t know how much was left behind but when a coach leaves often some players follow and others just leave. I read 58 new players came on board in Chesney’s first year there. That’s a lot of turnover so don’t know how much of what he’s doing is because of CC.

I tend to think he’ll get a spot somewhere after what CC has done. Some of the bias of hiring from these spots might dissipate after CC. Doesn’t mean Chesney will be the next CC but I’m sure someone will be willing to take a shot on him soon.

 

[Captain Hogleg]

For Chesney, I could see him at BC or VTech. He knows those areas well and it’s probably a logical next step for him. He’s a quarterback coach at heart and has won everywhere he’s been. Fits a good profile, plus his DC is excellent and was at Bama last year as co-DC. I’m sure the QB Barnett goes with him - which combined is a good package deal for a program.

 

[bigmatt718]

next coach needs to be a HEAD coach already who WON games. No coordinators, no learning on the job. Let the coordinators learn on the job in the MAC and CUSA. This is the Big Ten, that plus SEC the most coveted jobs in CFB. We need to hire someone who was a HC and who WON a ton of games. Whether its someone from the AAC, MAC, Sun Belt or wherever that’s what we need to get.

Keeping an eye on KC Keeler at Temple who honestly should've been hired here in 2012 instead of Flood. Only thing is hes old but then again hes pretty much the same age as Cignetti.

 

[Knight Shift]

Keeping an eye on KC Keeler at Temple who honestly should've been hired here in 2012 instead of Flood. Only thing is hes old but then again hes pretty much the same age as Cignetti.

He's 2 years older. Doing a nice job this year, but he does have an experienced and excellent QB in Evan Simon. Happy for Evan that he found a place to succeed. The only one of prior 3 QBs that has found success on a new team. Gavin, no. Ajani-maybe later in his career, but he is lost on depth chart at WSU.

 

[Knight Shift]

Sure he’s got the about the same record as Pinkel did there. He’s just not as up there as some others for me but he could work fine and the guys I like could bomb. Who knows. As long as the resume is worthy that’s all you can ask for but doing things at multiple places or over a long period of time where faces change is a good criteria. Demonstration of more with less is good too. Take your best guess and hope for the best.

Different time and era. Had to look Pinkel up. It ended badly for him at Missouri with sanctions. He retired due to health issues in 2015. By today's standards, no "wow" factor at Toledo except for 1995 and 2001.

In today's era, Year 4 at Mizzou (2004) would have resulted in a firing, IMO. He finished strong in 2013 and 2014.

1991	Toledo	5–5–1	4–3–1	T–3rd
1992	Toledo	8–3	5–3	T–3rd
1993	Toledo	4–7	3–5	T–7th
1994	Toledo	6–4–1	4–3–1	6th
1995	Toledo	11–0–1	7–0–1	1st	W Las Vegas	24	24
1996	Toledo	7–4	6–2	T–2nd
1997	Toledo	9–3	7–1	1st (West)
1998	Toledo	7–5	6–2	1st (West)
1999	Toledo	6–5	5–3	T–2nd (West)
2000	Toledo	10–1	6–1	1st (West)
Toledo:	73–37–3	53–23–3
Missouri Tigers (Big 12 Conference) (2001–2011)
2001	Missouri	4–7	3–5	T–4th (North)
2002	Missouri	5–7	2–6	5th (North)
2003	Missouri	8–5	4–4	3rd (North)	L Independence
2004	Missouri	5–6	3–5	T–3rd (North)
2005	Missouri	7–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	W Independence
2006	Missouri	8–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	L Sun
2007	Missouri	12–2	7–1	T–1st (North)	W Cotton	5	4
2008	Missouri	10–4	5–3	T–1st (North)	W Alamo	16	19
2009	Missouri	8–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	L Texas
2010	Missouri	10–3	6–2	T–1st (North)	L Insight	18	18
2011	Missouri	8–5[15]	5–4	5th	W Independence
Missouri Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2012–2015)
2012	Missouri	5–7	2–6	5th (Eastern)
2013	Missouri	12–2	7–1	1st (Eastern)	W Cotton	5	5
2014	Missouri	11–3	7–1	1st (Eastern)	W Citrus	11	14
2015	Missouri	0*–7	0*–7	T–6th (Eastern)
Missouri:	113*–73	63*–57
Total:	186*–110–3

 

[rutgersguy2]

Different time and era. Had to look Pinkel up. It ended badly for him at Missouri with sanctions. He retired due to health issues in 2015. By today's standards, no "wow" factor at Toledo except for 1995 and 2001.

In today's era, Year 4 at Mizzou (2004) would have resulted in a firing, IMO. He finished strong in 2013 and 2014.

1991	Toledo	5–5–1	4–3–1	T–3rd
1992	Toledo	8–3	5–3	T–3rd
1993	Toledo	4–7	3–5	T–7th
1994	Toledo	6–4–1	4–3–1	6th
1995	Toledo	11–0–1	7–0–1	1st	W Las Vegas	24	24
1996	Toledo	7–4	6–2	T–2nd
1997	Toledo	9–3	7–1	1st (West)
1998	Toledo	7–5	6–2	1st (West)
1999	Toledo	6–5	5–3	T–2nd (West)
2000	Toledo	10–1	6–1	1st (West)
Toledo:	73–37–3	53–23–3
Missouri Tigers (Big 12 Conference) (2001–2011)
2001	Missouri	4–7	3–5	T–4th (North)
2002	Missouri	5–7	2–6	5th (North)
2003	Missouri	8–5	4–4	3rd (North)	L Independence
2004	Missouri	5–6	3–5	T–3rd (North)
2005	Missouri	7–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	W Independence
2006	Missouri	8–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	L Sun
2007	Missouri	12–2	7–1	T–1st (North)	W Cotton	5	4
2008	Missouri	10–4	5–3	T–1st (North)	W Alamo	16	19
2009	Missouri	8–5	4–4	T–2nd (North)	L Texas
2010	Missouri	10–3	6–2	T–1st (North)	L Insight	18	18
2011	Missouri	8–5[15]	5–4	5th	W Independence
Missouri Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2012–2015)
2012	Missouri	5–7	2–6	5th (Eastern)
2013	Missouri	12–2	7–1	1st (Eastern)	W Cotton	5	5
2014	Missouri	11–3	7–1	1st (Eastern)	W Citrus	11	14
2015	Missouri	0*–7	0*–7	T–6th (Eastern)
Missouri:	113*–73	63*–57
Total:	186*–110–3

 

[rutgersguy2]

Post above malfunctioned in the reply.
I get that every so often after typing out messages. It gives an error and won’t post.



Campbell had about .700 winning percentage at Toledo and Pinkel and Candle about .620 to .640…that’s comparable enough to me. Campbell wasn’t there as long so who knows how it might have gone if he had been around longer. His record at ISU is about .540-.560 overall and in conference and there’s no wow in that but those are good numbers for ISU and he’s done things there that haven’t been done as well.

Candle isn’t up there for me but he’s got a resume that’s worthy of an opportunity just like a lot of those guys.

 

[Shelby65]

Hobbs was not great but don’t get the F Hobbs in this reference. He didn’t even want Schiano and got bullied into hiring him. Blame the big donors here.

And the extensions ? There was no other interest in him (losing coach) and look what we’re saddled with now. That’s on Hobbs.

 

[Knight Shift]

Post above malfunctioned in the reply.
I get that every so often after typing out messages. It gives an error and won’t post.



Campbell had about .700 winning percentage at Toledo and Pinkel and Candle about .620 to .640…that’s comparable enough to me. Campbell wasn’t there as long so who knows how it might have gone if he had been around longer. His record at ISU is about .540-.560 overall and in conference and there’s no wow in that but those are good numbers for ISU and he’s down things there that haven’t been done as well.

Candle isn’t up there for me but he’s got a resume that’s worthy of an opportunity just like a lot of those guys.

Yeah, not arguing, just sayin'. There will be more openings than "high" quality coaches this cycle, whatever "high" means.
Heck, maybe someone will give Kyle Flood a shot at a HC position?

 

[rutgersguy2]

Yeah, not arguing, just sayin'. There will be more openings than "high" quality coaches this cycle, whatever "high" means.
Heck, maybe someone will give Kyle Flood a shot at a HC position?

Exactly. What's a "high quality" coach, that's just a perception but who knows if that perception is correct or not Was Napier, Herman, Fickell (freaking got Cincy to a 4 team playoff), Frost (went undefeated at UCF and went back home, can there be a better fit) or how about Kelly...there's really know way to know for sure from situation to situation.

I say don't get caught up in all the glitter or shininess. Some of the "shiny guys" will be good and some won't be but the same goes for other overlooked/under the radar types. So make your best guess, be reasonable in contract negotiations, be willing move on and hope for the best with the eventual choice.

Don't be desperate or act like this is the only guy etc...(I think people forget GS wasn't the first, maybe not even 2nd or 3rd, choice back then, it was Gary Darnell iirc....never heard his name again lol)...that's how these schools get caught up in the financial messes. If the resume is worthy that's good enough for me.

I don't follow the NFL much at all but I guess some coordinators or position coaches from there might be candidates if they want to come down to college. I've seen Joe Brady and Kliff Kingsbury mentioned for spots but no clue about their desires to come back to college or not.

Flood is someone I wouldn't have hired in 2012 because he had neither been HC or coordinator (despite the co-OC title). I've never seen Flood's name mentioned anywhere in all the candidate lists I've come across over the years. For the P4, I'd doubt it but for the G6, who knows. In that arena, a lot of names get jobs that you might not expect or haven't heard of yet.

 

[drewbagel423]

Hobbs was not great but don’t get the F Hobbs in this reference. He didn’t even want Schiano and got bullied into hiring him. Blame the big donors here.

I 100% agree with that part (and have been saying as much for months) but Hobbs is the one that gave Greg an unwarranted extension resulting in his insane buyout.

 

[Knight Shift]

I 100% agree with that part (and have been saying as much for months) but Hobbs is the one that gave Greg an unwarranted extension resulting in his insane buyout.

Think that Hobbs did what the big donors and the BOG head told him what to do if he wanted to keep his job. Highly doubt he "gave" Greg anything on his own initiative. Pike is probably a different story.

 

[MADHAT1]

Does anyone know if his buyout is similar to Franklin. Requires him to seek comparable employment- which is why Franklin’s buyout is digestible- it is going to cost pSU almost nothing

from a google search *below the result) , Greg would have his pay deducted from his buyout if Rutgers terminated himand I'm sure ( but guessing) he would be expected to look for employment or Rutgers would claim he violated the terms of his contract buyout clause and refuse to pay him until he could prove he was actively seeking employment
I believe when Schiano was fired at Tampa Bay he didn't look for work or just went after top college HC positions
and only went back to work when the ( monthly/ yearly) Tampa buyout money ran out
(from google)
>If Rutgers fires Schiano

The university's buyout of Schiano is calculated based on his remaining salary and was also updated in his 2023 extension.

• Original contract: His 2019 contract stated that if he were fired without cause, he would be paid 76.875% of his remaining salary.
• Current estimated buyout (2025): Based on his latest deal, an August 2025 report from NJ.com estimates that Rutgers would owe him $22,485,938 if they terminated his contract following the 2025-26 season.
• • Mitigation clause: Like many coaching contracts, the buyout figure for the university is subject to mitigation. This means any salary Schiano earns from subsequent employment would offset the amount Rutgers owes him.<

 

[Knight Shift]

Was thinking this was worthy of it's own thread, but put it here. Sounds like Keli's boss at LSU is a putz and in hot water. Hope she learned how not to do coach contracts:

 

[rutgersguy2]

Was thinking this was worthy of it's own thread, but put it here. Sounds like Keli's boss at LSU is a putz and in hot water. Hope she learned how not to do coach contracts:

I said similar when a poster here said I hope she learned something from her boss.

I said I hope not everything, specifically with regards to contracts. He likes to make the splash hires. It worked out with Peterson at UW but not Fisher and Kelly. It worked for their WBB and baseball teams but not the sport that matters and costs the most.

He’s the fool who set off this whole 10 year contract stuff and of course many of the lemming ADs followed suit with 7-10 year deals.

Lay the groundwork on the first deal with a coach you hire. No outs for anything except the NFL. Reasonable base in the 4M area but with plenty of incentives that can you get to the high singles to mid teens based on performance in any given year. Years can be automatically tacked on based on above average to high level performance. If you don’t like it move on to the next guy. I bet many, if not all, the names at the top of this thread would take it when getting their first P4 opportunity.

I’ve been harping about these dumb deals for years. Finally we’re seeing the stupidity come home to roost. It matters because the stupidity trickles down to the rest because few push back and say this isn’t smart and instead just go along.

I’ve listened to pods and read articles with many comments from business people and the like who say only in college, especially CFB, do you see such nonsensical contracts…not in other sports or just in life in general.

I’ve kind of thought a good business would be “agents” negotiating on behalf of the schools since they can’t seem to help themselves. All the coaches have the same 2-3 agents. The schools should hire someone to push back on their behalf if they can’t do it themselves.

 

[RU#1fan]

Think that Hobbs did what the big donors and the BOG head told him what to do if he wanted to keep his job. Highly doubt he "gave" Greg anything on his own initiative. Pike is probably a different story.

False

 

[Knight Shift]

False

Tell someone something is false when you don't know how things work?
You do realize the BOG has to approve such things?
You do realize who is head of the BOG?

 

[MADHAT1]

Think that Hobbs did what the big donors and the BOG head told him what to do if he wanted to keep his job. Highly doubt he "gave" Greg anything on his own initiative. Pike is probably a different story.

Hobbs was pressured by big and small donors To hire Greg, but big donors voices are louder because their money speaks volumes
If anyone tells you that didn't happen, they didn't follow the hiring process after the Ash was canned and how the BOG also gets lobbied by major donors .

 

[jsol_05]

Keeping an eye on KC Keeler at Temple who honestly should've been hired here in 2012 instead of Flood. Only thing is hes old but then again hes pretty much the same age as Cignetti.

I wanted KC in 2000.

 

[jsol_05]

Think that Hobbs did what the big donors and the BOG head told him what to do if he wanted to keep his job. Highly doubt he "gave" Greg anything on his own initiative. Pike is probably a different story.

Where are all these big donors, according to som we don't have any.

 

[jsol_05]

Was thinking this was worthy of it's own thread, but put it here. Sounds like Keli's boss at LSU is a putz and in hot water. Hope she learned how not to do coach contracts:

Great thing about La that have one of the highest poverty rate in the country and LSU owe their ex coach over 50 million, great.

 

[vkj91]

next coach needs to be a HEAD coach already who WON games. No coordinators, no learning on the job. Let the coordinators learn on the job in the MAC and CUSA. This is the Big Ten, that plus SEC the most coveted jobs in CFB. We need to hire someone who was a HC and who WON a ton of games. Whether its someone from the AAC, MAC, Sun Belt or wherever that’s what we need to get.

Whle I agree these small schools are having a hard time getting cooridnators to take their jobs. Chesney makes less than 800 at JMU. You have OC's making 2 million at P4 schools

 

[MADHAT1]

Where are all these big donors, according to som we don't have any.

What's small time to LSU, PSU and OSU along with other major programs seems large to RU because Rutgers boosters don't seem to have the deep pockets needed to spend the bucks to hire and fire without remorse
So $5 mil to Rutgers is the equivalent for them to $ 50 mil the PSU & LSUs of the college football world have their boosters step up with when needed

(from a google search
AI Overview)


>Yes, after negotiations to rehire Greg Schiano broke down in November 2019, intense pressure from big-money donors, former players, and fans ultimately forced Rutgers Athletic Director Pat Hobbs and university President Robert Barchi to reconsider and finalize the deal
.

The push for Schiano's return occurred during a period of turmoil for the Rutgers athletic program, which likely increased the influence of key stakeholders.


Key events in the 2019 negotiation

• Failed initial talks: In the weeks following the mid-season firing of head coach Chris Ash, Rutgers officials met with Schiano. However, a deal could not be reached. Schiano was reportedly seeking a substantial, long-term contract and significant funding for staff salaries and facilities upgrades.
• Donor and fan uprising: After news broke that talks had failed, influential donors and fans launched a pressure campaign aimed at the university administration.
  • Six-figure donors publicly threatened to close their checkbooks.
  • Prominent alumni and former players, including Eric LeGrand, voiced their outrage on social media and in the press.
  • Fans bombarded the emails of President Barchi, Athletic Director Hobbs, and New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy.
  • • A petition with thousands of signatures demanded Hobbs's firing and Schiano's hiring.
• Political intervention: New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy became involved after the deal collapsed, reportedly speaking to university officials and increasing the political pressure to bring Schiano back.
  • Deal is finalized: Under the weight of the pressure campaign, Rutgers re-opened negotiations with Schiano. An agreement was reached a few days later, giving Schiano an eight-year, $32 million contract, with promised commitments to facilities upgrades and a larger salary pool for assistant coaches. <

 

[noble106]

Hobbs was not great but don’t get the F Hobbs in this reference. He didn’t even want Schiano and got bullied into hiring him. Blame the big donors here.

1) hired ash

2) never got programs the funding they needed

3) almost got us kicked out of the B1G

That's enough for me to not like him.

 

[mdk02]

1) hired ash

2) never got programs the funding they needed

3) almost got us kicked out of the B1G

That's enough for me to not like him.

As far as #2 goes he was far from alone

 

[Section124]

1) hired ash

2) never got programs the funding they needed

3) almost got us kicked out of the B1G

That's enough for me to not like him.

Agree on #1
Same as above on #2
Explain #3 to me. We are not getting kicked out of the B1G after buying in.