HBCU Gameday: Prime Time to Jackson State

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,581
22,468
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That's a great hire. He might suck but I sure as hell would take the chance if I were JSU.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
60,789
32,139
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I don't see anything in his resume that screams great hire. He's a high school assistant coach who just got outcoached by the MRA coaches. I like Deion and he's a hard worker, but I'm not at all sold on this hire. I hope it works out though. I would have called Jay Hopson.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,581
22,468
113
I take the chance and roll with it. He might fall flat on his face but it's a great hire.
 

Msubulldogfan1

Freshman
Sep 12, 2013
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His name can only help.

He might have a few connections that would be beneficial.

I would assume he already has some guys that will go with him.

I definitely wouldn’t call it a great hire, more like boom or bust, high risk/reward.

I reckon if you’re JSU, you don’t really have much to lose.
 

DoggieDaddy13

All-Conference
Dec 23, 2017
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Nothing to lose. The team, athletic department and university are all in the same leaky boat.
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
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Pat you are really wrong here.

This is good for JSU in a ton of ways. Even if he goes 0/20 and leaves after 2 seasons.

Hell its good for the state of Mississippi.

Now I’m glad it’s JSU taking that chance vs MSU, it they have way less to lose.
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
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The point of the football team is ultimately to make the university more money.

Usually winning accomplishes that.

In JSUs case, they could make a lot more money and never win a game while Deion is there.

If he increases revenue for 2 to 3 years and just recruits decently, they could then hire a good football coach who could come in and win.
 

Msubulldogfan1

Freshman
Sep 12, 2013
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The point of the football team is ultimately to make the university more money.

Usually winning accomplishes that.

In JSUs case, they could make a lot more money and never win a game while Deion is there.

If he increases revenue for 2 to 3 years and just recruits decently, they could then hire a good football coach who could come in and win.

If he goes 2-10 every year, they won’t be making any more money with him as head coach than any other coach.
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
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I’ll make a wager with you.

JSU athletic revenue will increase by 15% annualized over the next 2 years. Regardless of wins and losses.

If he accomplishes that and loses and they hire a real coach in year 3, it will be a huge success.
 

Msubulldogfan1

Freshman
Sep 12, 2013
8,835
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I’ll make a wager with you.

JSU athletic revenue will increase by 15% annualized over the next 2 years. Regardless of wins and losses.

If he accomplishes that and loses and they hire a real coach in year 3, it will be a huge success.

If it happens that way, I would agree it was a success.

I’m not saying it will or won’t work. Just saying it’s far from a sure thing in any aspect.
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
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I’m guessing their revenue is less than $10 million yearly.

If they get 15,000 fans to donate $100 more, they hit 15% in year one.

I’m hoping, if the AD is good enough to pull “prime time”, he is smart enough to capitalize on him.

Hell im guessing ESPN, etc will want to showcase some of those games Bc of of Deion.
 

ronpolk

All-American
May 6, 2009
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5,362
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I’m guessing their revenue is less than $10 million yearly.

If they get 15,000 fans to donate $100 more, they hit 15% in year one.

I’m hoping, if the AD is good enough to pull “prime time”, he is smart enough to capitalize on him.

Hell im guessing ESPN, etc will want to showcase some of those games Bc of of Deion.

15k fans? Does the bulldog club even have 15k members?
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
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The bulldog club sells 35,000 season tickets.

If you can increase season tickets for 15,000 fans by $100 each that’s one way.

You can also attract a lot of African American single game fans “to see” Deion coach.

You can also attract TV Bc of Deion.

WANNA WAGER?

Less than 15% isn’t a fail for JSU either but 15% isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

15% over 2 years vs 15% annually is still pretty damn good.
 

ronpolk

All-American
May 6, 2009
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The bulldog club sells 35,000 season tickets.

If you can increase season tickets for 15,000 fans by $100 each that’s one way.

You can also attract a lot of African American single game fans “to see” Deion coach.

You can also attract TV Bc of Deion.

WANNA WAGER?

Less than 15% isn’t a fail for JSU either but 15% isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

15% over 2 years vs 15% annually is still pretty damn good.

Lol... no I don’t want to wager. I have no knowledge of JSU’s ability to increase revenue. I was simply questioning the ability to get $100 from 15k people. I really don’t know that there are 15k members in the bulldog club, and the 35k season tickets is not a good measure of that. I order 4 and I’m the only member of my house on the bulldog club.

I hope he does increase revenue. Hope it works out to be awesome.
 

was21

Senior
May 29, 2007
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and the revenues will be stolen just like it's always been at JSU unfortunately...too many outside hands in the pie
 

paindonthurt_

All-Conference
Jun 27, 2009
9,528
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There aren’t 15k members in the BDC (unless it has grown). But they sell 35,000 season tickets.
 

Ralph Cramden

Redshirt
Jan 7, 2020
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All it is a big publicity stunt. After the first 4 losses it will be the same old same old. They could make a bigger revenue splash selling bbq in the parking lot instead of all those dude dragging their grills in
 

Dawgg

Heisman
Sep 9, 2012
10,535
10,793
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Think some network can get Tim McCarver to do the locker room interviews?
 

Maroon Eagle

All-American
May 24, 2006
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Maybe Deion gets the JSU - Deion licensing rights.

(I was going to sarcastrisk that but then that might not be a bad idea there)
 
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SheltonChoked

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Feb 27, 2008
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I’ll make a wager with you.

JSU athletic revenue will increase by 15% annualized over the next 2 years. Regardless of wins and losses.

If he accomplishes that and loses and they hire a real coach in year 3, it will be a huge success.

Some facts for the argument

JSU's athletic budget for the last fiscal year was $7.6 million, which ranked seventh in the 10-team SWAC and 337th out of 347 schools in the NCAA's top division

Pain suggests the athletic budget in 2020-2021 will grow to $8.7 million, and 2021-2022 will grow to $10.1 million.

Enrollment at JSU is 9,800.

JSU leads FCS in attendance at 33,000 per game (reserved season tickets are $160)
 
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Russ Wheeler

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The point of the football team is ultimately to make the university more money.

Usually winning accomplishes that.

In JSUs case, they could make a lot more money and never win a game while Deion is there.

If he increases revenue for 2 to 3 years and just recruits decently, they could then hire a good football coach who could come in and win.
You just outlined what's been causing the problems in modern college football. At the end of the day, it's more about us vs. them (winning) than it is money. Money goes along with that but money isn't the sole factor.

It's about pride. That's what makes college football great. It stands alone from pro football in that regard. All you people saying it's a business and should be treated that way, simply DO NOT GET IT. It's more than that.
 

Russ Wheeler

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Aug 3, 2020
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Pat you are really wrong here.

This is good for JSU in a ton of ways. Even if he goes 0/20 and leaves after 2 seasons.

Hell its good for the state of Mississippi.

Now I’m glad it’s JSU taking that chance vs MSU, it they have way less to lose.
If those losses pile up, winning the press conference will evaporate quickly.
 
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