Have to agree with Fetterman here...

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We need the SAVE Act to be just a clean bill. Get that done and we can deal with "wannabe girls" later.

The preservation of our most important right is, by far, the top of the list.

Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

DAVID MARCUS: Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

Sen. John Fetterman proposes clean voter ID bill as compromise after SAVE America Act stalls. Could this bipartisan approach break Senate gridlock?

www.foxnews.com

 

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We need the SAVE Act to be just a clean bill. Get that done and we can deal with "wannabe girls" later.

The preservation of our most important right is, by far, the top of the list.

Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

DAVID MARCUS: Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

Sen. John Fetterman proposes clean voter ID bill as compromise after SAVE America Act stalls. Could this bipartisan approach break Senate gridlock?

www.foxnews.com

I can't believe there's even an argument over making sure that American citizens only can vote! Shows 'ya just how much Dems need this not to pass just so they can keep winning contested elections with fraudulent voters.

 

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We need the SAVE Act to be just a clean bill. Get that done and we can deal with "wannabe girls" later.

The preservation of our most important right is, by far, the top of the list.

Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

DAVID MARCUS: Senate GOP should take Fetterman's deal on voter ID

Sen. John Fetterman proposes clean voter ID bill as compromise after SAVE America Act stalls. Could this bipartisan approach break Senate gridlock?

www.foxnews.com

OK, so if Dems don't think you need need to prove who you are to vote, then we shouldn't be taxed either unless they can prove they're taxing the right person!

Right?

I'd give up my I.D. if they'd stop taxing me because they can't prove they're taxing the right person! Fat chance of that ever passing huh?

 

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I've excerpted some of the silly arguments Dems are using to oppose the SAVE act. I tell 'ya, it's hard to take these folks seriously, but they are holding up passage of this despite polls showing the overwhelming majority of Americans support it!

So why don't they?

Here a few reasons they're offering:

• Democrats note that the SAVE America Act would require proof of citizenship — a passport or birth certificate — to register, a much higher burden of proof than photo ID.
• “The SAVE Act is nothing more than Jim Crow 2.0. It could disenfranchise millions of American citizens,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said last week. On a press call on Saturday, Schumer pivoted to other provisions in the SAVE America Act, namely one that would empower the Department of Homeland Security to screen states’ voter rolls and flag suspected noncitizens for disqualification.
• “There’s no one ID that I think is being advanced at this point that is universally possessed by enough Americans to make that a mandatory requirement in each state,” said Janai Nelson, the president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, suggesting alternate ways to verify voters, like signature verification.
• It would hugely burden voters, election officials, and everybody else. It is not a voter ID bill, and there is no voter ID problem.”
• We have Election Day registration, no voter ID, unlimited absentee voting by mail and drop boxes,” said,Sen. Angus King, a centrist independent from Maine...he responded with a flat “no” when asked if any kind of nationwide photo ID mandate for voting would be acceptable to him?
• they use voter identification as a pretext for determining the electorate that they think will keep them in power. (Ga Senator Raphael Warnock) for example, a student ID is not good enough, but a military ID is.
  
  
• Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., chair of the moderate New Democrat Coalition, stopped short of backing any nationwide photo ID requirements to vote. He said that “what the Republicans are trying to do is not what they’re saying they’re trying to do.” The SAVE America Act would “by intention and design, seek to disenfranchise, in many cases, the 80% of women when they get married change their name, and 5% of men get married change their name,” Schneider said. “Folks who, for whatever reason, might change their name, change their gender identity.”
• Opponents of the bill note that a person's birth certificate or passport may not match their married last name, and it can be costly and time-consuming to get those documents updated.
• Rep. Marc Veasey, D-Texas, said he witnessed Texas Republicans in the state Legislature trying to craft ID rules to rig the electorate — for instance, by allowing handgun licenses but not state-issued ID from the University of Texas to register to vote.
• someone’s birth may have been recorded inside of a family Bible, or they may have been born by midwife. They may not been able to have been born inside of the county hospital.”
• “Most people are just going to give up,” he said. "They’re not going to go through those steps. They’re just going to say: ‘Forget it, I just can’t vote because I was born during the time of segregation and there was no person there to record my birth.’”
  
  Incredible isn't it? These are some of the arguments Dems are offering against a simple Law that says you MUST be an American citizen in order to register to vote, and you MUST show your State issued Government I.D. proving you are legally who you said you are when you registered! It doesn't say anything more, or require anything less.

Source:
Most Americans support requiring photo ID to vote. Democrats in Congress reject it.

* Support now includes 71% of self-identified Democrats, 83% of independents and 76% of Black voters.

 

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I've excerpted some of the silly arguments Dems are using to oppose the SAVE act. I tell 'ya, it's hard to take these folks seriously, but they are holding up passage of this despite polls showing the overwhelming majority of Americans support it!

So why don't they?

Here a few reasons they're offering:

• Democrats note that the SAVE America Act would require proof of citizenship — a passport or birth certificate — to register, a much higher burden of proof than photo ID.
• “The SAVE Act is nothing more than Jim Crow 2.0. It could disenfranchise millions of American citizens,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said last week. On a press call on Saturday, Schumer pivoted to other provisions in the SAVE America Act, namely one that would empower the Department of Homeland Security to screen states’ voter rolls and flag suspected noncitizens for disqualification.
• “There’s no one ID that I think is being advanced at this point that is universally possessed by enough Americans to make that a mandatory requirement in each state,” said Janai Nelson, the president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, suggesting alternate ways to verify voters, like signature verification.
• It would hugely burden voters, election officials, and everybody else. It is not a voter ID bill, and there is no voter ID problem.”
• We have Election Day registration, no voter ID, unlimited absentee voting by mail and drop boxes,” said,Sen. Angus King, a centrist independent from Maine...he responded with a flat “no” when asked if any kind of nationwide photo ID mandate for voting would be acceptable to him?
• they use voter identification as a pretext for determining the electorate that they think will keep them in power. (Ga Senator Raphael Warnock) for example, a student ID is not good enough, but a military ID is.
  
  
• Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., chair of the moderate New Democrat Coalition, stopped short of backing any nationwide photo ID requirements to vote. He said that “what the Republicans are trying to do is not what they’re saying they’re trying to do.” The SAVE America Act would “by intention and design, seek to disenfranchise, in many cases, the 80% of women when they get married change their name, and 5% of men get married change their name,” Schneider said. “Folks who, for whatever reason, might change their name, change their gender identity.”
• Opponents of the bill note that a person's birth certificate or passport may not match their married last name, and it can be costly and time-consuming to get those documents updated.
• Rep. Marc Veasey, D-Texas, said he witnessed Texas Republicans in the state Legislature trying to craft ID rules to rig the electorate — for instance, by allowing handgun licenses but not state-issued ID from the University of Texas to register to vote.
• someone’s birth may have been recorded inside of a family Bible, or they may have been born by midwife. They may not been able to have been born inside of the county hospital.”
• “Most people are just going to give up,” he said. "They’re not going to go through those steps. They’re just going to say: ‘Forget it, I just can’t vote because I was born during the time of segregation and there was no person there to record my birth.’”
  
  Incredible isn't it? These are some of the arguments Dems are offering against a simple Law that says you MUST be an American citizen in order to register to vote, and you MUST show your State issued Government I.D. proving you are legally who you said you are when you registered! It doesn't say anything more, or require anything less.

Source:
Most Americans support requiring photo ID to vote. Democrats in Congress reject it.

* Support now includes 71% of self-identified Democrats, 83% of independents and 76% of Black voters.

If you cant prove who you say you are, how do you get any entitlements or government handouts ?

 

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Tracing The History Of Voter Id Laws: A Timeline​

Last updated Nov 02, 2025 Difficulty
Posted by Keith Mack
Category Change

https://lawshun.com/article/how-long-have-voter-id-laws-been-around

Characteristics	Values
First Voter ID Laws	Introduced in the 1950s, with South Carolina being the first state to require some form of identification for voting in 1950.
Expansion in 2000s	Significant increase in Voter ID laws after the 2000 presidential election, with many states adopting stricter requirements.
Types of ID Required	Varies by state, ranging from strict photo ID requirements to non-photo ID options like utility bills or bank statements.
Strict vs. Non-Strict States	As of 2023, 36 states have some form of Voter ID requirement, with 18 states requiring strict photo ID.
Federal Influence	The Help America Vote Act (2002) encouraged states to adopt Voter ID requirements for federal elections.
Legal Challenges	Numerous legal challenges have been filed, with some laws being struck down or modified for being discriminatory.
Impact on Turnout	Studies show mixed results, with some indicating a slight decrease in turnout, particularly among minority and low-income voters.
Recent Developments	Continued debate and legislative activity, with some states tightening laws and others loosening or repealing them.
Public Opinion	Generally, a majority of Americans support Voter ID laws, though opinions vary by political affiliation and demographic.
International Comparison	Voter ID laws are less common in other democracies, with many countries relying on voter registration systems without strict ID requirements.

 

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Liberals are acting as if the "Save Act" is something new.

This page tracks voter identification (ID) laws by state. These laws require voters to present some form of identification at the polls. In some cases, the required identification must include a photo.

As of October 2025, 36 states required voters to present identification in order to vote at the polls on Election Day, but many states provide for exceptions to these rules. Of these states, 24 required voters to present identification containing a photograph, with certain exceptions, and 12 states did not explicitly require photo identification. The remaining 14 states did not generally require voters to present identification in order to vote at the polls on Election Day.

Valid forms of identification differ by state. Commonly accepted forms of ID include driver's licenses, state-issued identification cards, and military identification cards.

The federal Help America Vote Act requires that individuals in all 50 states who register to vote by mail and who have not voted previously in a federal election in their state must provide either their driver's license or a paycheck, bank statement, current utility bill, or government document showing their name and address. Individuals voting by mail must include a copy of one of those documents with their absentee/mail-in ballot.[1]

These requirements do not apply if an individual submitted a copy of their identification, their driver's license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number when registering to vote.

In certain states that require voters to provide identification, there may be exceptions that allow some voters to cast a ballot without providing an ID.

In 16 states, some or all voters can sign an affidavit or a form in lieu of providing identification. Seven states allow election officials or other voters to vouch for a person's identity instead of an ID. And in four states, voters who live and vote in state-licensed nursing homes or care centers do not have to provide ID. Nine states do not have any exceptions to their voter ID laws. To see more about these exceptions, see details by state below.

Forty states allow voters to cast a provisional ballot if they are unable to provide identification at the polls. If a voter casts a provisional ballot and returns with identification, or if their identity is verified by another method, the ballot will count.

Voter identification laws by state

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Use the links below to navigate the page:

• Find your state's voter identification laws
• Arguments for and against voter ID laws
• Legislation related to voter ID policies