Have there been any Riots.....

bornaneer

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over the the shooting death of Ashli Babbitt? Her death was officially ruled a "homicide."
I have yet to see where she was resisting arrest because of numerous outstanding warrants. Also, she was unarmed when she was murdered.
 
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mule_eer

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over the the shooting death of Ashli Babbitt? Her death was officially ruled a "homicide."
I have yet to see see where she was resisting arrest because of numerous outstanding warrants. Also, she was unarmed when she was murdered.
Wasn't she actively engaged in a felony?
 

MichiganHerd

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The outrage! How many of you white guys want to meet up later, and snatch us some new shoes?
 

mule_eer

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So she deserved to die? Am I doing this right?
Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
 

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Is resisting an officer a felony? Is obstructing an officer a felony? Is battery on an officer a felony?

If you answer yes to any of those questions, then why was the woman shot (and killed) while committing a felony okay, but it's not okay when other people are shot (and killed) while committing a felony? Was the woman carrying a deadly weapon, and was the person that fired the shot in imminent danger? What about the guy in Kenosha, who was fighting with the police?
 

rog1187

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Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
Maybe and maybe not...could I (or in this case the capitol police) have retreated to another location?
 

rog1187

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Maybe and maybe not...could I (or in this case the capitol police) have retreated to another location?
Oh and I'd have to look at the footage again...I don't think the woman was even close to being through the window of the door. He pretty much shot her through the broken window as she looked in.
 

bornaneer

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Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
 

rog1187

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Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
Just watched the video. She was hoisted up to the broken window. Doubtful she even broke the plane of the window when the capitol police shot her. I'm sure if I did that in my home, I'd at least would have been arrested.
 

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Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?

Really...your going with this? Apples to alien watermelons. The cop was a trained officer...there were police on the other side of the window...they let in!

She was wrong for being in the Capitol, she was wrong for trying to go through the window, but she should not have died...and how they are doing this behind closed doors reeks of a cover-up.
 

moe

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Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.
 

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Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. I have no more issue with her being shot than I do any of the folks that we burn cities down for. Stop breaking the law, ********!
 

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I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.

What about the leftist rioters attacking police and setting police stations on fire? Would you be okay with those leftists (who lead in rioting and it's not even close) being shot?

Is it a show of great restraint that they are not being shot?
 

moe

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Just watched the video. She was hoisted up to the broken window. Doubtful she even broke the plane of the window when the capitol police shot her. I'm sure if I did that in my home, I'd at least would have been arrested.
Don't take this as legal advice but if you experience a home invasion and you shoot the perp(s), I doubt that you get charged with a crime.
 

moe

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Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
Did the rioters line up, empty their pockets and go through metal detectors as they took over the Capitol building?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Don't take this as legal advice but if you experience a home invasion and you shoot the perp(s), I doubt that you get charged with a crime.
Damn right you shouldn’t be providing legal advice. Unless you have castle doctrine or are imminent fear of your life, you have a duty to retreat.
 

bornaneer

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Guess what the reaction would have been if Police had mowed down looters and thugs torching businesses,Police HQ's and Police cars.

I bet you have and did defend ALL those actions.

I'm not saying she was ok with breaking into the Capitol....but.....getting murdered,and it was ruled a homicide,was just to harsh.
 

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There were cops with "weapons of war" and radios, standing right behind her. If she were a threat, wouldn't it be safe to assume they would have done something?

You're just a leftist who loves his "team" and as long as it's winning, you're good with whatever they do, country be damned.

As said, under leftist power, laws are not applied equally and their leftist sheep one-throat it all. Leftists are destroying our country.
 
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dave

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Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
This isnt breaking into my home. This was an actual police officer supposedly trained. She was such a huge threat to anyone that the 3 cops standing 5 feet behind her with assault rifles paid her no attention.
 

dave

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just like the cop who killed that dipshit in Kenosha.

and good riddance mike brown. No charges there either.
The cop didnt kill the Kenosha guy. Shot him in his back while he was trying to kidnap his kids.
 

mule_eer

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This isnt breaking into my home. This was an actual police officer supposedly trained. She was such a huge threat to anyone that the 3 cops standing 5 feet behind her with assault rifles paid her no attention.
What was behind the cop who shot her? This has been hashed and rehashed. This was a defensive line to protect sitting members of Congress, possibly the VP at that time.
 

dave

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What was behind the cop who shot her? This has been hashed and rehashed. This was a defensive line to protect sitting members of Congress, possibly the VP at that time.
No it wasn't. All of Congress and the VP were long gone through the tunnels. Rehashed my ***. It has been ignored and many excuses have been made. If it had been the VP or Pelosi/Grassley back there it wouldnt have been Capitol Police there. It would have been secret service and there would have been more than a makeshift barricade protecting them.
 

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No it wasn't. All of Congress and the VP were long gone through the tunnels. Rehashed my ***. It has been ignored and many excuses have been made. If it had been the VP or Pelosi/Grassley back there it wouldnt have been Capitol Police there. It would have been secret service and there would have been more than a makeshift barricade protecting them.
Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.

But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.

That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?

(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
 

dave

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Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.

But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.

That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?

(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
I agree with you about her. I just find it hilarious that the very same people who argue her shooting was justified will argue that the guy at the Wendys in Atlanta was a brutal police murder.

Of course her skin color changes everything and the people screaming we have a huge race problem in America dobt even recognize their own hypocrisy.
 

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Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.

But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.

That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?

(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
Personally? I still wouldn’t care.

Add another layer to that, suppose it was Trump’s administration being reaffirmed and was a BLM riot storming the capitol. Shewwww
 

dave

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Personally? I still wouldn’t care.

Add another layer to that, suppose it was Trump’s administration being reaffirmed and was a BLM riot storming the capitol. Shewwww
You mean the riot that was being planned? The one that the zoom call was literally leaked about?
 

mule_eer

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Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.

But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.

That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?

(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
I don't disagree with your assessment. DvlDog4WVU says it pretty well when it comes to these situations, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
 

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Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?

The castle doctrine only covers your home, and sometimes your vehicle. It does not cover employment location.
 

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I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.
They showed restraint because they knew their lives weren't in danger. Those were idiots who rushed in, but no objective person honestly believed that the peaceful protesters on Jan 6th were a threat to anyone's life. Before you bring up the fire extinguisher….100% proven false.

blm and antifa however....they burn down buildings, rob and loot and murder innocent people. Federal buildings, the same designation as the Capitol, have been under siege in Portland for nearly a year.
 

moe

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They showed restraint because they knew their lives weren't in danger.
Cool story. The police that got beaten and worked over by the mob used a safe word? Apparently the cop that shot and killed the woman felt his life was in peril as the rioters broke into his space. Set your politics aside and watch the police getting beaten on Jan. 6. Maybe you haven't seen it.