Wasn't she actively engaged in a felony?over the the shooting death of Ashli Babbitt? Her death was officially ruled a "homicide."
I have yet to see see where she was resisting arrest because of numerous outstanding warrants. Also, she was unarmed when she was murdered.
So she deserved to die? Am I doing this right?Wasn't she actively engaged in a felony?
Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?So she deserved to die? Am I doing this right?
Yeah, this debate is DOA.Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
Maybe and maybe not...could I (or in this case the capitol police) have retreated to another location?Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
Oh and I'd have to look at the footage again...I don't think the woman was even close to being through the window of the door. He pretty much shot her through the broken window as she looked in.Maybe and maybe not...could I (or in this case the capitol police) have retreated to another location?
Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
Just watched the video. She was hoisted up to the broken window. Doubtful she even broke the plane of the window when the capitol police shot her. I'm sure if I did that in my home, I'd at least would have been arrested.Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
Even if she were she is entitled to a trial before her execution.Wasn't she actively engaged in a felony?
Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.
Don't take this as legal advice but if you experience a home invasion and you shoot the perp(s), I doubt that you get charged with a crime.Just watched the video. She was hoisted up to the broken window. Doubtful she even broke the plane of the window when the capitol police shot her. I'm sure if I did that in my home, I'd at least would have been arrested.
Did the rioters line up, empty their pockets and go through metal detectors as they took over the Capitol building?Unarmed and it was not in a home. You saying shooting an unarmed person is reasonable force?
Don't think she was going thru any window.
Damn right you shouldn’t be providing legal advice. Unless you have castle doctrine or are imminent fear of your life, you have a duty to retreat.Don't take this as legal advice but if you experience a home invasion and you shoot the perp(s), I doubt that you get charged with a crime.
So was Mike brown. And rayshard brooks. Arguably George Floyd too. And that idiot in kenoshaYes.
T swear I thought she had a bazooka in her hand pointed at me...That'll workEven if she were she is entitled to a trial before her execution.
Guess what the reaction would have been if Police had mowed down looters and thugs torching businesses,Police HQ's and Police cars.Yes.
murder? homicide? bad call by herGuess what the reaction would have been if Police had mowed down looters and thugs torching businesses,Police HQ's and Police cars.
I bet you have and did defend ALL those actions.
I'm not saying she was ok with breaking into the Capitol....but.....getting murdered,and it was ruled a homicide,was just to harsh.
murder? homicide? bad call by her
No criminal charges for officer who fatally shot woman during Capitol riot
just like the cop who killed that dipshit in Kenosha.murder? homicide? bad call by her
No criminal charges for officer who fatally shot woman during Capitol riot
This isnt breaking into my home. This was an actual police officer supposedly trained. She was such a huge threat to anyone that the 3 cops standing 5 feet behind her with assault rifles paid her no attention.Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
The cop didnt kill the Kenosha guy. Shot him in his back while he was trying to kidnap his kids.just like the cop who killed that dipshit in Kenosha.
and good riddance mike brown. No charges there either.
What was behind the cop who shot her? This has been hashed and rehashed. This was a defensive line to protect sitting members of Congress, possibly the VP at that time.This isnt breaking into my home. This was an actual police officer supposedly trained. She was such a huge threat to anyone that the 3 cops standing 5 feet behind her with assault rifles paid her no attention.
No it wasn't. All of Congress and the VP were long gone through the tunnels. Rehashed my ***. It has been ignored and many excuses have been made. If it had been the VP or Pelosi/Grassley back there it wouldnt have been Capitol Police there. It would have been secret service and there would have been more than a makeshift barricade protecting them.What was behind the cop who shot her? This has been hashed and rehashed. This was a defensive line to protect sitting members of Congress, possibly the VP at that time.
Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.No it wasn't. All of Congress and the VP were long gone through the tunnels. Rehashed my ***. It has been ignored and many excuses have been made. If it had been the VP or Pelosi/Grassley back there it wouldnt have been Capitol Police there. It would have been secret service and there would have been more than a makeshift barricade protecting them.
I agree with you about her. I just find it hilarious that the very same people who argue her shooting was justified will argue that the guy at the Wendys in Atlanta was a brutal police murder.Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.
But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.
That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?
(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
Personally? I still wouldn’t care.Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.
But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.
That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?
(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
You mean the riot that was being planned? The one that the zoom call was literally leaked about?Personally? I still wouldn’t care.
Add another layer to that, suppose it was Trump’s administration being reaffirmed and was a BLM riot storming the capitol. Shewwww
I don't disagree with your assessment. DvlDog4WVU says it pretty well when it comes to these situations, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."Personally, I place her in a similar category as Mike Brown, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and the countless other dipshits who ignore police commands. Technically she would be more similar to a person shot by the police during one of the BLM riots since the above ******** were fighting with police.
But my concern for them ends when they fight police or put the officers in harms way. Same goes for the rioters in Minnesota. Do they still have rights? Absolutely. But someone else can worry about them because I don't give a damn.
That said, Suppose it was a black BLM rioter that was going through the window of the police headquarters and was shot and killed. Nearly the same set of facts just change the skin color and the building. How different would the reactions by Americans, the media and people here be about that killing?
(Oh yeah, good call about the Kenosha idiot. Forgot he is partially paralyzed not dead.)
Someone is coming through a broken window into your home, a window that person or someone with that person broke. Is it reasonable use of force to shoot that person?
They showed restraint because they knew their lives weren't in danger. Those were idiots who rushed in, but no objective person honestly believed that the peaceful protesters on Jan 6th were a threat to anyone's life. Before you bring up the fire extinguisher….100% proven false.I'm surprised that more of the rioters didn't get shot. Police showed great restraint that day.
Cool story. The police that got beaten and worked over by the mob used a safe word? Apparently the cop that shot and killed the woman felt his life was in peril as the rioters broke into his space. Set your politics aside and watch the police getting beaten on Jan. 6. Maybe you haven't seen it.They showed restraint because they knew their lives weren't in danger.