Hatcher = Hot Garbage

Seinfeld

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Is it too soon to ask why our weekend lineup has no room for a .385 hitter with power? All so we can keep hoping that Hatcher scratches and claws just enough to keep the ol’ average north of .200?
 

wsjmsu75

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Is it too soon to ask why our weekend lineup has no room for a .385 hitter with power? All so we can keep hoping that Hatcher scratches and claws just enough to keep the ol’ average north of .200?

I assume you mean Cumbest. I agree. Hatcher has been given way more at bats than he should have to prove himself. Time for that to end.
 

G-Dawg

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Way past time to move Tanner Allen to 1B. Cumbest proved tonight he deserves to play RF. Hatcher had a VERY selfish AB earlier in the game when it was still in doubt.
 

thekimmer

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Way past time to move Tanner Allen to 1B. Cumbest proved tonight he deserves to play RF. Hatcher had a VERY selfish AB earlier in the game when it was still in doubt.

Hatch has been a good player for us but we are now in game 31. At some point you’ve got to face up to the reality that it ain’t happening this season. Just think about the sad fact that our 175 lb shortstop is hitting 80 points higher than our 195 lb first baseman.
 

pcdog2017

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If not cumbest, mcdonald needs a look. He has put the ball in play and looked impressive doing so every chance he gets
 

Seinfeld

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Appears to be hitting .545 after last night’s game. Meanwhile, Hatch is hitting a crisp .137 in SEC contests

If I’m being honest, I’m beginning to believe that the answer to a special season isn’t about Hatcher turning around. It’s about Lemonis figuring out that Hatcher isn’t the answer
 
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Dawgtruc

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Appears to be hitting .545 after last night’s game. Meanwhile, Hatch is hitting a crisp .137 in SEC contests

If I’m being honest, I’m beginning to believe that the answer to a special season isn’t about Hatcher turning around. It’s about Lemonis figuring out that Hatcher isn’t the answer

So the fact that he had a HR against Aub. would not be a positive? Spare me the "blind squirrel" analogy. Y'all were bitching about Rowdy 3 weeks ago. Look at him now.
 

kired

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2008
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At this point even taking a walk would be considered a positive.
 

Arthur2478

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So the fact that he had a HR against Aub. would not be a positive?

He was 3-12 vs Auburn and followed that up by going 0-4 vs Arkansas State. He doesn't have a multi-RBI game all season. Spare me the sentiment that a meaningless solo homerun when the game is already in hand is somehow a sign of coming out of his slump. His OBP is down to .266, which is nearly 100 points less than the next lowest everyday player. At this point, he's a giant detriment to our offense and arguing otherwise is asinine.

https://static.hailstate.com/custompages/stats/bb/2021/21-BB-Overall.pdf
 
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And if you can't hit Arkansas State pitching when everyone up and down the

lineup is, including backups, I don't see you hitting most anyone left on the schedule. I want to see him break out of it but truthfully I'm just not sure he's very good. Major difference in waiting on Rowdey to break out of a slump. You knew it was coming. With Hatcher, I'm not optimistic at all.
 

The Peeper

Heisman
Feb 26, 2008
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You're actually willing to wait 3 more weeks for him? That means playing 6 games against two top 5 teams and then 3 against A&M. 1 HR doesn't buy him 3 more weeks at all w/ a .202 batting average and a .266 OBP. He's the ONLY player on the entire team even in the .200's OBP. Next closest regular is Logan Tanner at .357
 

johnson86-1

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Aug 22, 2012
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So the fact that he had a HR against Aub. would not be a positive? Spare me the "blind squirrel" analogy. Y'all were bitching about Rowdy 3 weeks ago. Look at him now.

Rowdy has a track record of sucking for the first half of the season and then turning it on.

Hatcher does not. And nobody said there hasn't been any positive. He's not hitting .000. But he is hitting pretty awful.

I'm just curious what the hell Cumbest is doing in practice to make Lemonis think he doesn't deserve a shot. Yes, it's a small sample size, but he's performing at the plate stat wise. Why does Lemonis think it isn't good enough to justify more ABs? Especially considering putting him at RF is probably a defensive upgrade since Allen and Hatch are probably a wash at first. Cumbest must do something that has convinced Lemonis that every time he makes contact at the plate it's just blind luck.

And I'm not saying give up on Hatcher. Let him keep getting bats situationally and depending on how Cumbest (or whoever replaces him in the lineup) does, maybe put him back in as a starter after a few games. But we've had a lot of season already for him to figure things out and the pitching is not going to get easier.
 

8dog

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Feb 23, 2008
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He hasnt even drawn a walk in sec play. Thats phenomenal. We are shooting ourselves in he foot at this point.
 

Drebin

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Aug 22, 2012
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He hasnt even drawn a walk in sec play. Thats phenomenal. We are shooting ourselves in he foot at this point.

Yeah, at least Lemonis dropped him in the order, but you really only do that if you need his glove on the field, and Hatcher is nothing special defensively either.

It really is time to do something different. I'm not sure Cumbest is the answer...but you never know until you try it. Maybe we catch lightning in a bottle.
 

Xenomorph

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Feb 15, 2007
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When you combine it with the fact Cumbest may be better in LF than Allen, it's pretty obvious what needs to happen.


 

thekimmer

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Aug 30, 2012
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Here is what I don't get. Hatcher has started in all 32 games. He is by my quick math tied for the third most ABs on the team. The coaching staff has given Tanner Allen a day off to give guys a chance to get some reps, he has sat Dubrule, but he won't sit Hatcher even for one game. Its almost as if he thinks if he does he won't be able to justify putting him back in the lineup. Nobody wants hatch to start hitting more than I do but come on, at some point you gotta try something else. At the very least platoon for a few games and see what works best. Time is running out and we can't go into post season hitting .200 at the 1B position or a new first baseman still trying to get up to speed with his defense.
 

G-Dawg

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Sep 6, 2012
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You see how Scotty Dubrule has responded since getting benched. Hatcher has performed FAR WORSE than Dubrule. Sitting might do the guy some good. Take some pressure off of him for awhile. Give him some midweek ABs and give him a chance, but he doesn't deserve to be in any of these big SEC series coming up.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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Dec 23, 2017
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So the fact that he had a HR against Aub. would not be a positive? Spare me the "blind squirrel" analogy. Y'all were bitching about Rowdy 3 weeks ago. Look at him now.

Do you really see that kind of improvement coming from Hatch this weekend or even in the next few weeks?

Time to be moving on.
 

bulldogcountry1

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Jun 4, 2007
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The thing is that Hatcher can’t even put together good ABs against midweek competition. He consistently misses the best pitches and either K, hits a lazy fly ball, or hits weak ground balls. There’s no bad luck line drives being caught.

It would be one thing if there was nobody on the bench that could do better, but there’s at least 5 guys who couldn’t do any worse. I mean, Hatcher’s OBP is well under .300. That’s unreal. He’s been given an unbelievable amount of rope, and it’s past time to let someone else have a chance.
 
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