Has Fred Thomas improved one iota since high school?

FlotownDawg

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Daniels needs to take almost all of Fred's minutes. Fred has had his chance for three years and hasn't improved one bit.
 

Hanmudog

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Fred has actually gotten 4 iotas worse in his three years. Way to coach em up Ray.
 

BiscuitEater

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ANY kind of contribution by Fred could have been the 'game changer' last night. 0-6 from the field, 0-5 from 3, 4 fouls, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, & 3 TOs in 27 minutes
 

msstate7

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ANY kind of contribution by Fred could have been the 'game changer' last night. 0-6 from the field, 0-5 from 3, 4 fouls, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, & 3 TOs in 27 minutes

Yeah he was bad. Daniels getting in foul trouble killed us
 

thf24

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I think he's improved somewhat; his main problem is that he's wildly inconsistent. Some nights he'll make 3 or 4 of 6 from 3, then others we get last night. Same story with several others on the team. If Ray could get these guys playing close to their potential on a consistent basis, I think this team would actually be pretty good despite the ****** offense. Just don't think he can at this point though.
 

patdog

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Not really. But one of his problems is he was never as good as a lot of guys on this board thought he was. He's a quantity shooter, not a quality shooter.
 

KurtRambis4

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His biggest problem is

our lack of offense. Our coaches do him no favors, whatsoever. We never run any plays to get him open. Part of that is on him, though.
 

engie

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Hey Engie how's Fred doing?

Fred goes 12-27 from deep in the 5 games prior to last night. Not a peep from me about it.

Goes 0-5 in Oxford -- 61 can't get to keyboard fast enough for Engie call out time!11!11

How are those no-shooting bastards Sword, Daniels, and Ready doing now?!?/1/!??!**
 

DAWG61

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Fred goes 12-27 from deep in the 5 games prior to last night. Not a peep from me about it.

Goes 0-5 in Oxford -- 61 can't get to keyboard fast enough for Engie call out time!11!11

How are those no-shooting bastards Sword, Daniels, and Ready doing now?!?/1/!??!**

If that was true I would of posted it earlier than four hours after the game was over. It doesn't take me four hours to "get to the keyboard fast enough".
 

thf24

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I looked back at his high school stats last year and was surprised to see that he only shot 32% from 3 for his career. I had thought that he was a dead eye in high school who was just struggling to adapt to the college game up to that point from the way everyone on the boards talked about him, but I realized then he just wasn't an elite shooter like everyone apparently assumed. Still, he'd be a decent spot up shooter if he could just find some consistency.
 

DAWG61

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I looked back at his high school stats last year and was surprised to see that he only shot 32% from 3 for his career. I had thought that he was a dead eye in high school who was just struggling to adapt to the college game up to that point from the way everyone on the boards talked about him, but I realized then he just wasn't an elite shooter like everyone apparently assumed. Still, he'd be a decent spot up shooter if he could just find some consistency.

Fred might be the first player since Slater that would benefit from smoking eight blunts before tip-off. He is the definition of a "freak out".
 

tcdog70

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our lack of offense. Our coaches do him no favors, whatsoever. We never run any plays to get him open. Part of that is on him, though.

This is the TRUTH--also true with Ware. No help from the coaching staff. They have to do it all on their own.
 

mstateglfr

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Yes he has improved. He is a much better on ball and off ball defender. He is more confident and active on defense.

As for the obvious and simple view that many take- offensive output- he continues to lack consistency. His shooting from deep is better than as a freshman. He didn’t even make 25% of his 3pt attempts as a freshman. It was many game ago, but lets not forget how terrible he was at outside shooting in his first year.
 

engie

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Except your reply when he has a good one. He must of smoked 8 blunts.

I'm not the one that feels the need to call someone out every time he has a good game. You opened the can of worms.

But I'm done arguing with the guy that wanted to cut half the team including Thomas and completely lost his mind fellating Josh Gray in JUCO last year.
 

DAWG61

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I'm not the one that feels the need to call someone out every time he has a good game. You opened the can of worms.

But I'm done arguing with the guy that wanted to cut half the team including Thomas and completely lost his mind fellating Josh Gray in JUCO last year.

4 of 13 isn't half bro. You like our production from Dunlap, Bloodman, Ndoye and Zuppardo right now? I don't. I'd rather have 4 great shooters than those four. So what if I once said Fred. He's no longer bottom four.
 

msstate7

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4 of 13 isn't half bro. You like our production from Dunlap, Bloodman, Ndoye and Zuppardo right now? I don't. I'd rather have 4 great shooters than those four. So what if I once said Fred. He's no longer bottom four.

How do you know zuppardo isn't a great shooter?
 

DAWG61

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I'm not saying he is. I was honestly wondering. I never saw him in juco

Zuppardo isn't the point. The point is that I firmly believe in trimming the fat each year. It will result in our floor raising.
 

msstate7

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Zuppardo isn't the point. The point is that I firmly believe in trimming the fat each year. It will result in our floor raising.

It may be premature to cut ndoye, zuppardo, and dunlap. Thank God we didn't trim the fat with johnson when he was a freshman and soph. Johnson was awful then, but has turn into a very serviceable player
 

DAWG61

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It may be premature to cut ndoye, zuppardo, and dunlap. Thank God we didn't trim the fat with johnson when he was a freshman and soph. Johnson was awful then, but has turn into a very serviceable player

I'm cutthroat. Trim Bloodman.
 

coach66

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Fred played a good game and I was glad to see it. Hope he can find some

consistency. We are a lot better when he contributes.
 
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