Harry Giles

[Jakarii]

I'm
Assuming he does like others have just like I'm sure you assume the incoming freshmen will have a impact due to how they dominated guys they were bigger, stronger, faster, older than in H.S. I'd doubt it more if no one had ever come back from this injury or if this was 1980, but since history shows young guys have come back with worse injuries to both knees plus medical technology these days I doubt don't he will come back. I said the same thing on scout after Alex Poythress had his first and second injury when many though it was over for him or he would come back and be a shell of his old self. I think that way with just about every injury outside of microfracture (because history shows you are the same as a player) and tearing you're Achilles. Working in the medical field also allows me to think that way



That's the problem, you are assuming one thing, he another. The only fact is, we just don't know. We won't until he starts playing. For the kids sake, I hope he comes back strong. I hate to see kids get injured.[/QUOTE]

 

[Jakarii]

Well I have pretty of proof. Is it due to not being in 100% agreement with everything positive. Give an example other than (he doesn't agree with me so he must not be a fan)


Should be easy since it's so transparent


QUOTE="Bungalow Bill, post: 4517769, member: 43985"]It seems obvious. You're pretty transparent.[/QUOTE]

 

[McThick]

I'm
Assuming he does like others have just like I'm sure you assume the incoming freshmen will have a impact due to how they dominated guys they were bigger, stronger, faster, older than in H.S. I'd doubt it more if no one had ever come back from this injury or if this was 1980, but since history shows young guys have come back with worse injuries to both knees plus medical technology these days I doubt don't he will come back. I said the same thing on scout after Alex Poythress had his first and second injury when many though it was over for him or he would come back and be a shell of his old self. I think that way with just about every injury outside of microfracture (because history shows you are the same as a player) and tearing you're Achilles. Working in the medical field also allows me to think that way




That's the problem, you are assuming one thing, he another. The only fact is, we just don't know. We won't until he starts playing. For the kids sake, I hope he comes back strong. I hate to see kids get injured.

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Lol, whatever. I tried to diplomatic about it. The problem with assuming. We all assumed Skal was going to dominate. It just didn't happen. Once again, that's the problem with assuming.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

Somebody anybody I don't care who it is but what the hell does OFC stand for that seems to be a mating call on the duke board?

OFC=Old Farts Club. It's something the older members of DI add to their posts.

 

[Mike-D]

Harry Gina is a helluva low post presence. Always in the paint.

 

[smooth as butter]

If healthy Giles will be the top freshman in the country.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

If healthy Giles will be the top freshman in the country.

Or maybe he won't be.

 

[uky8unc5]

Over the years I've seen (live) many great high school players. Giles is DEFINITELY one of them. Don't undervalue his talent just because we didn't sign Harry.

 

[smooth as butter]

Or maybe he won't be.

Well I hope he is.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Well I hope he is.

Sure, if you're a Duke fan.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Over the years I've seen (live) many great high school players. Giles is DEFINITELY one of them. Don't undervalue his talent just because we didn't sign Harry.

Not undervaluing. Just feel it's a little silly to say that Giles will absolutely be the best freshman, especially with two torn ACLs in his past. Then again this is @smooth as butter we're talking about so shouldn't be surprised.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

hope his career is over before it begins

anyone who chooses duke is a subhuman

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

If healthy Giles will be the top freshman in the country.

Heard that last year about another Doookie. Okafor says hi. opcorn:

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

hope his career is over before it begins

anyone who chooses duke is a subhuman

Don't hate the player man. Hate the Coach. [pfftt]I really want Giles to recover. He's just another kid with a dream.

 

[smooth as butter]

Heard that last year about another Doookie. Okafor says hi. opcorn:

Not undervaluing. Just feel it's a little silly to say that Giles will absolutely be the best freshman, especially with two torn ACLs in his past. Then again this is @smooth as butter we're talking about so shouldn't be surprised.

Silly lol man whatever.A healthy Giles equals best freshman in the country and the number 1 pick in next years nba draft.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

But based on what? History has shown players his age come back from that injury no different than before


QUOTE="Rhavicc, post: 4517532, member: 12698"]Good player, but his game is revolved around high motor plays. Considering his back to back ACL injuries in both knees, I'm just not sold that he's going to be able to perform as he did in the past.

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History has not shown that. As evidenced by ths article only 81% of high school boys returned at their same level. That is pretty good but leaves a pretty big chunk with issues. 2 knees can't make that any better. I will be shocked if he is the dominant force he used to be. I hope he is as I wish the kid no ill will. I jst believe he's fighting a tough battle. Not only physically, but mentally.
http://lermagazine.com/article/rehab-speeds-return-after-acl-surgery

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

hope his career is over before it begins

anyone who chooses duke is a subhuman

Why is this scum still allowed to post here?

 

[Bkocats]

History has not shown that. As evidenced by ths article only 81% of high school boys returned at their same level. That is pretty good but leaves a pretty big chunk with issues. 2 knees can't make that any better. I will be shocked if he is the dominant force he used to be. I hope he is as I wish the kid no ill will. I jst believe he's fighting a tough battle. Not only physically, but mentally.
http://lermagazine.com/article/rehab-speeds-return-after-acl-surgery[/QUOTE]

agree with this - it HAS to affect Giles because he's had not only one, but TWO knee injuries; it's bound to affect him psychologically

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Why is this scum still allowed to post here?

what an ingrate

 

[ZaytovenCat]

That's as gay as the duke program, you can't be serious

OFC it is.

Of Course = OFC.

 

[CincinnatiWildcat]

so two knee injuries with 81 percent chance of full recovery, that makes for an overall chance of 65% to fully recover. basically a coin flip

 

[Federal Cat]

So let me get this straight you have cheered for UK for eight years from a scout board, worked out with this Jackson kid in Utah for five years and are in the medical field, so now your on a UK board arguing the comeback of a Duke player, okay sounds legit to me, if I'm wrong I apologize but you will get called out a lot making claims like that on this board, hope the kid makes a full recovery, you should have been a lawyeropcorn:

 

[Jakarii]

I've liked Harry Giles since I first saw him as a freshman. He was that nice. I'm no longer debating it after making this a subject on the scout UK board and other site boards, they are all in agreement that the rivals board is known for calling anyone who isn't a sunshine pumper all the time or praise a kid at another school they don't like a troll or fan of that school . Some (not all on here) are known as having zero objectivity




QUOTE="Federal Cat, post: 4519476, member: 16245"]So let me get this straight you have cheered for UK for eight years from a scout board, worked out with this Jackson kid in Utah for five years and are in the medical field, so now your on a UK board arguing the comeback of a Duke player, okay sounds legit to me, if I'm wrong I apologize but you will get called out a lot making claims like that on this board, hope the kid makes a full recovery, you should have been a lawyeropcorn:[/QUOTE]

 

[UKserialkiller]

I've liked Harry Giles since I first saw him as a freshman. He was that nice. I'm no longer debating it after making this a subject on the scout UK board and other site boards, they are all in agreement that the rivals board is known for calling anyone who isn't a sunshine pumper all the time or praise a kid at another school they don't like a troll or fan of that school . Some (not all on here) are known as having zero objectivity

 

[topps coach]

Before you get banned jakarii help a brotha out

old farts club

 

[Wall2Boogie]

This kid has to be one of dog the bounty hunters kids only he would bless them with great hair like that lol

 

[blueblood65_rivals211176]

I think Giles is going to have a tough year. Those who have anointed him as a Demigod will end up eating their words.

Don't forget he is playing at Duke so there's that.....lol.....

 

[willyclyde]

This thread sure brought the true trolls out didn't it. I could gaf about anything Harry giles. I hope monk/fox/bam are all better (very possible).

 

[UKserialkiller]

Harry Giles. It's settled then. Guy is the legitimate heir to the evolution of man. No longer are we worthy. Homo Sapiens? Please. Homo Gilespians. The guy is a god. Can overcome 2 major knee injuries to rule the planet Earth. Maybe Giles can cure cancer in North Korea to ease their suffering.

 

[Uk1111]

I've liked Harry Giles since I first saw him as a freshman. He was that nice. I'm no longer debating it after making this a subject on the scout UK board and other site boards, they are all in agreement that the rivals board is known for calling anyone who isn't a sunshine pumper all the time or praise a kid at another school they don't like a troll or fan of that school . Some (not all on here) are known as having zero objectivity




QUOTE="Federal Cat, post: 4519476, member: 16245"]So let me get this straight you have cheered for UK for eight years from a scout board, worked out with this Jackson kid in Utah for five years and are in the medical field, so now your on a UK board arguing the comeback of a Duke player, okay sounds legit to me, if I'm wrong I apologize but you will get called out a lot making claims like that on this board, hope the kid makes a full recovery, you should have been a lawyeropcorn:

[/QUOTE]
Just stop troll. This subject is NOT that he won't be the best player, because he could however turn out to be, although it's unlikely since EVEN WITH A FULL RECORY ( which is far from certain ) he had played little in two years so even if he had went on a Moran mission like Parker talked about and wouldn't have been injured at all, but would be rusty regardless.
You've admitted he might not be the same so you've unwitingly proved our argument, since the real debate is how it's lunacy to still have a player either 1,2 in the country. When the BEST CASE SCENERIO IS THAT HES RUSTY AND NOT 100%, which is ridiculous!!!!!
You have ZERO stand to ground on since touve admitted that he might not be 100%. Also, as I've stated he'll be rusty and even if he returns 100, it's still highly unlikely that he'll be at full strength to start the season so it's highly unlikely that he'll be ACC first team and some form of AA, LOL!
I was going to be nice about tearing apart you're weak and flawed argument, but since you made it peronal talking ish about our board( which just because we've got some idiots ), it's got the most traffic, ) So I'll stop by saying go back to DI since you're obviously lying about you're " scout board claim since you weren't even sure of you're username since you said it was either some name, or the same name followed by a number, LMAO!
So since you're obviously a troll, who'd all ready said you like other board more and hate this one so much, just GTFO, and don't come back.

 

[Montana81]

I'm still waiting to hear/read which player Giles age has blown out both knees and come back just as good?

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

I'm still waiting to hear/read which player Giles age has blown out both knees and come back just as good?

You'll just have to wait, Butters isn't up yet.

 

[gracetoyou]

Giles is good but no he hasn't been #1 the whole time. He's not, nor never has been considered the coming of Lebron James etc.

Let's not make a kid a legion who hasn't proven to be one yet. Let's not forget Harrison Barnes.