Harry Giles

[uk78_rivals88018]

I am reading the new rankings of High School players which I assume has something to do with the performances at those various all-star games. Only Fox now is in the top 10 which is interesting as in that one early all-star game he did not perform well. Anyway, everyone continues to have GIles ranked as number one or 2. I watched several of his videos and he definitely looks skilled, very quick, great touch, and great power.

There is no way to know exactly whether he will live up to all the praise. Sure, he was the best player in those under 18 games, but if history teaches us anything last season with Skal, someone playing against no competition during their senior season (or in this case, not playing at all) makes me suspect to how he will ultimately perform.

Every season, it seems teams are impacted by some unanticipated injuries. We took our lumps with Ulis early on, then others, and some teams were changed by their players injuries. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

 

[UKserialkiller]

I am reading the new rankings of High School players which I assume has something to do with the performances at those various all-star games. Only Fox now is in the top 10 which is interesting as in that one early all-star game he did not perform well. Anyway, everyone continues to have GIles ranked as number one or 2. I watched several of his videos and he definitely looks skilled, very quick, great touch, and great power.

There is no way to know exactly whether he will live up to all the praise. Sure, he was the best player in those under 18 games, but if history teaches us anything last season with Skal, someone playing against no competition during their senior season (or in this case, not playing at all) makes me suspect to how he will ultimately perform.

Every season, it seems teams are impacted by some unanticipated injuries. We took our lumps with Ulis early on, then others, and some teams were changed by their players injuries. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

I think Giles is going to have a tough year. Those who have anointed him as a Demigod will end up eating their words.

 

[KentuckyCat420]

Prior to the 2nd injury, I thought he was the best prospect I've ever seen. I have no idea if he's going to be fully ready to carry a collegiate team as a freshman following multiple knee surgeries but I sure wouldn't question his ranking. If he's fully healthy, and that's a big if, he's going to be one of the most dominant freshman the college game has ever seen.

This is also coming from someone who despises Duke more then most of you guys despise Louisville and Indiana.

 

[NCukcat62]

I think Giles is going to have a tough year. Those who have anointed him as a Demigod will end up eating their words.

Couldn't agree more. I think he'll be just a regular freshman but nothing special like everyone believes

 

[jcmc225]

Even if the kid averages 12 and 8 with 2 blocks per he will have had a great year. Its hard to tell how he'll translate after his injury but based on effort and athleticism alone he can put up those numbers. stats will be skewed too bc everyone on duke likes to shoot.

 

[Jakarii]

Skal was a outliner, the 1%. Giles had proven how good he was at camps and games vs other top players. No one knows when he will get back to 100% but when he does those who have never seen him will understand why he is ranked where he is

I am reading the new rankings of High School players which I assume has something to do with the performances at those various all-star games. Only Fox now is in the top 10 which is interesting as in that one early all-star game he did not perform well. Anyway, everyone continues to have GIles ranked as number one or 2. I watched several of his videos and he definitely looks skilled, very quick, great touch, and great power.

There is no way to know exactly whether he will live up to all the praise. Sure, he was the best player in those under 18 games, but if history teaches us anything last season with Skal, someone playing against no competition during their senior season (or in this case, not playing at all) makes me suspect to how he will ultimately perform.

Every season, it seems teams are impacted by some unanticipated injuries. We took our lumps with Ulis early on, then others, and some teams were changed by their players injuries. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

He's committed to Duke. That alone guarantees him a top 2 ranking.

 

[Jakarii]

Exactly. Also not sure why people are treating his injury like he's 35 and it's a career ender. He came back from be first one and dominated AND that was a full tear, this one is a partial tear. I'm pretty sure most doubt because he's at Duke, if he was at UK everyone would be expecting him to be fully healed by the time the season starts. Also many aren't realizing he won't have to carry the team because he will be surrounded by three other NBA talents. Also past guys who had complete tears in both knees

Dejuan Blair both while in H.S and less skilled than Giles-went on to become a two time AA while playing without ACL in either knee

Robbie Hummel tore both And broke a bone in his back while not being half the athlete Giles is-finished next season as a 1st team all conference and honorable mention AA.

Add to all that that Giles is using some of the best Doctors you can offer and will have a couple months more than the projected time you need to fully heal, I wouldn't worry too much about what he will be when he comes back. At worst you may be looking at a 6'11 more aggressive Alex Poythress




QUOTE="KentuckyCat420, post: 4517451, member: 4988"]Prior to the 2nd injury, I thought he was the best prospect I've ever seen. I have no idea if he's going to be fully ready to carry a collegiate team as a freshman following multiple knee surgeries but I sure wouldn't question his ranking. If he's fully healthy, and that's a big if, he's going to be one of the most dominant freshman the college game has ever seen.

This is also coming from someone who despises Duke more then most of you guys despise Louisville and Indiana.[/QUOTE]

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Skal was a outliner, the 1%. Giles had proven how good he was at camps and games vs other top players. No one knows if he will get back to 100% but if he does those who have never seen him will understand why he is ranked where he is

Fixed for you, Duke clown.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Stud

 

[Rhavic]

Good player, but his game is revolved around high motor plays. Considering his back to back ACL injuries in both knees, I'm just not sold that he's going to be able to perform as he did in the past.

 

[Jakarii]

Sorry not a Duke fan. Been cheering Cal and UK on scout board for 8 years now so try again

Fixed for you, Duke clown.

 

[Jakarii]

But based on what? History has shown players his age come back from that injury no different than before


QUOTE="Rhavicc, post: 4517532, member: 12698"]Good player, but his game is revolved around high motor plays. Considering his back to back ACL injuries in both knees, I'm just not sold that he's going to be able to perform as he did in the past.[/QUOTE]

 

[26MichaelUK]

Prior to the 2nd injury, I thought he was the best prospect I've ever seen. I have no idea if he's going to be fully ready to carry a collegiate team as a freshman following multiple knee surgeries but I sure wouldn't question his ranking. If he's fully healthy, and that's a big if, he's going to be one of the most dominant freshman the college game has ever seen.

This is also coming from someone who despises Duke more then most of you guys despise Louisville and Indiana.

The best you've ever seen? Not seen much then have you? The kid is really good but he's no Wall or Davis and wont have near the impact people are hyping him up to have, injury or not.

 

[Jakarii]

Yep guys have him ranked where he is and have had him ranked so high all these years and NBA scouts have him as one of the best potentially in the past 10 years for no reason. Same guys who have watched over 100 of his games compared to very few here seeing anything but his highlight you tube videos. Got it .

Not to mention Cal saying he's one of the best bigs he has ever scouted when he went to see him at the EYBL two years ago

 

[26MichaelUK]

But based on what? History has shown players his age come back from that injury no different than before


QUOTE="Rhavicc, post: 4517532, member: 12698"]Good player, but his game is revolved around high motor plays. Considering his back to back ACL injuries in both knees, I'm just not sold that he's going to be able to perform as he did in the past.

[/QUOTE]
No two people bounce back the same so comparisons don't really matter. I'm sure there are tons of players who didn't come back the same, You just never hear about it. Either way I think he will be fine, but underwhelming compared to the hype.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Yep guys have him ranked where he is and have had him ranked so high all these years and NBA scouts have him as one of the best potentially in the past 10 years for no reason. Same guys who have watched over 100 of his games compared to very few here seeing anything but his highlight you tube videos. Got it .

Not to mention Cal saying he's one of the best bigs he has ever scouted when he went to see him at the EYBL two years ago

Not buying it. Giles will get bumped around. He may be better than Skal's year here, but it won't be too far off. He's about to be hit by GAM.

 

[Jakarii]

Depends on which hype you listening too? The realistic hype is a 1st team all conference player that will be a top 3 pick. The unrealistic hype is unanimous POY and Tim Duncan/Shaq lock number 1 pick. I think the lines are starting to get blurred on what the realistic expectations are of him by some over the top fans of his.


No two people bounce back the same so comparisons don't really matter. I'm sure there are tons of players who didn't come back the same, You just never hear about it. Either way I think he will be fine, but underwhelming compared to the hype.[/QUOTE]

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Somebody anybody I don't care who it is but what the hell does OFC stand for that seems to be a mating call on the duke board?

 

[Jakarii]

Negative. He is NOTHING like Skal. Skal has a better jumper but everything else Giles is wayyyyy better at.

Not buying it. Giles will get bumped around. He may be better than Skal's year here, but it won't be too far off. He's about to be hit by GAM.

 

[KyFord]

I knew he was really good as a Junior and he is still considered to be the #1 player, even without playing organized basketball for a year.

The injuries are going to be a question mark until he shows what he can do on the court. I also think it's unfair to that kid to already label him as one of the greatest players to ever live.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Negative. He is NOTHING like Skal. Skal has a better jumper but everything else Giles is wayyyyy better at.

Easy killer, I wasn't saying they are comparable. I'm saying that his one year at Duke might be slightly be better than Skal's one year at UK. But Giles ain't tearing up the NCAA.

 

[Jakarii]

Yeah that's the unrealistic I was talking about. Best ever is far fetched, but staying ranked as high as he is is well deserved from camps,AAU, and match ups with other top 25 guys

I knew he was really good as a Junior and he is still considered to be the #1 player, even without playing organized basketball for a year.

The injuries are going to be a question mark until he shows what he can do on the court. I also think it's unfair to that kid to already label him as one of the greatest players to ever live.

 

[Jakarii]

Not close like I said. Skals one year was one of if not the worst one year by a guy ranked where he was ever. Nothing even closely indicates Giles will have that type of year. If that's he case what's to say Bam won't have a Skal year?

Easy killer, I wasn't saying they are comparable. I'm saying that his one year at Duke might be slightly be better than Skal's one year at UK. But Giles ain't tearing up the NCAA.

 

[Bungalow Bill]

Not close like I said. Skals one year was one of if not the worst one year by a guy ranked where he was ever. Nothing even closely indicates Giles will have that type of year. If that's he case what's to say Bam won't have a Skal year?

Because Bam is a physical beast that played his high school junior and senior years against good competition, not sitting out or playing against inferior talent.

 

[KyFord]

Bam will be a force, that kid is a beast and I thought that before he became a Cat.

After the weak front court of last season I am so pumped to have a big athletic bully down low, he can also handle the ball and knock down shots.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Not close like I said. Skals one year was one of if not the worst one year by a guy ranked where he was ever. Nothing even closely indicates Giles will have that type of year. If that's he case what's to say Bam won't have a Skal year?

You have no clue how effective Giles will be for Duke. I don't think he will be that much more effective than Skal. And then Duke's "super team" ends up looking bad, especially when they don't have a pure PG on their team. I'm sure you'll try to sell me on Frank Jackson too. We'll see how it plays out. but I'm not buying it

 

[Jakarii]

Exactly. Giles is also a kid with a very high motor which is why it's ludicrous to think he's going to have a Skal impact. Skal was something that doesn't ever happen, just like thinking Fox will shoot like Briscoe just because Briscoe shot bad even though he shot a better percentage than fox in H.S

Bam will be a force, that kid is a beast and I thought that before he became a Cat.

After the weak front court of last season I am so pumped to have a big athletic bully down low, he can also handle the ball and knock down shots.

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Sorry not a Duke fan. Been cheering Cal and UK on scout board for 8 years now so try again

Sounds exactly like what a troll would say.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Somebody anybody I don't care who it is but what the hell does OFC stand for that seems to be a mating call on the duke board?

Before you get banned jakarii help a brotha out

 

[JerseyCat84_rivals57050]

Before you get banned jakarii help a brotha out

OFC= One fine cheese

 

[Wall2Boogie]

OFC= One fine cheese

That's as gay as the duke program, you can't be serious

 

[Jakarii]

That's because you can't separate you're dislike of Duke. No different than other people saying every year UK isn't going to be good due to not liking UK. I'm basing Giles future on others who have had worse injuries to their knee at a young age and came back and played well at that young age. I'm still looking for other highly ranked guys who came back and were worse.

I agree they need a pg, I've watched and worked out with Frank out here in Utah for 5 years and can say 100% the kid is not a pg right now due to mind set (score first second and third) plus his trouble going to his weak hand on drives. It's very understandable why Duke will be ranked 1 though. Also what person with basketball knowledge says they are going to be a super team? No one is saying 40-0 ( only the crazy people say things like that). Only thing reasonable people are saying is they should start number one and have the best odds due to what they have coming in plus what they bring back. That doesn't sound unreasonable at all


IMO Duke will be he best team until around feb then UK will be the best team. I base that on how Cal's freshmen tend to pick everything up around that time or a little sooner
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QUOTE="Willy4UK, post: 4517661, member: 9964"]You have no clue how effective Giles will be for Duke. I don't think he will be that much more effective than Skal. And then Duke's "super team" ends up looking bad, especially when they don't have a pure PG on their team. I'm sure you'll try to sell me on Frank Jackson too. We'll see how it plays out. but I'm not buying it[/QUOTE]

 

[Bungalow Bill]

Exactly. Giles is also a kid with a very high motor which is why it's ludicrous to think he's going to have a Skal impact. Skal was something that doesn't ever happen, just like thinking Fox will shoot like Briscoe just because Briscoe shot bad even though he shot a better percentage than fox in H.S

Giles is coming off a blown knee on top of the other knee being surgically repaired. He may come back strong but at the least he should have dropped several spots in the rankings. If he doesn't heal well then his knee could keep him from showing his high motor off and limit his impact to Skal-like. Only a Duke fan would describe that scenario as ludicrous.

 

[McThick]

You have no clue how effective Giles will be for Duke. I don't think he will be that much more effective than Skal. And then Duke's "super team" ends up looking bad, especially when they don't have a pure PG on their team. I'm sure you'll try to sell me on Frank Jackson too. We'll see how it plays out. but I'm not buying it

You know, you're right. He doesn't have a clue how effective Giles will be, but then again, neither do you or any of us.

 

[Jakarii]

Lol. Why do some think I'm a Duke fan? Because I'm new here? I've been posting on scout for years under Quincey or quincey24. Hell Jeff Drummond on scout can vouch for me

Before you get banned jakarii help a brotha out

 

[Jakarii]

I can understand that so let's base it off of the assumption Giles will be back to 100% like we do with other players who have gotten injured (Alex, Ulis). Since we all hope all of these kids come back as good when they heal from injuries

QUOTE="McThick, post: 4517739, member: 15034"]You know, you're right. He doesn't have a clue how effective Giles will be, but then again, neither do you or any of us.[/QUOTE]

 

[Jakarii]

So what does hat say about the rest of the class if he nor Dennis Smith dropped too far. It either says the class is weak or they are good and are expected to make a full recovery based on past players with the same injury, and we all know this isn't considered a weak class


QUOTE="Bungalow Bill, post: 4517724, member: 43985"]Giles is coming off a blown knee on top of the other knee being surgically repaired. He may come back strong but at the least he should have dropped several spots in the rankings. If he doesn't heal well then his knee could keep him from showing his high motor off and limit his impact to Skal-like. Only a Duke fan would describe that scenario as ludicrous.[/QUOTE]

 

[Bungalow Bill]

Lol. Why do some think I'm a Duke fan? Because I'm new here? I've been posting on scout for years under Quincey or quincey24. Hell Jeff Drummond on scout can vouch for me

It seems obvious. You're pretty transparent.

 

[McThick]

I can understand that so let's base it off of the assumption Giles will be back to 100% like we do with other players who have gotten injured (Alex, Ulis). Since we all hope all of these kids come back as good when they heal from injuries

QUOTE="McThick, post: 4517739, member: 15034"]You know, you're right. He doesn't have a clue how effective Giles will be, but then again, neither do you or any of us.

[/QUOTE]

That's the problem, you are assuming one thing, he another. The only fact is, we just don't know. We won't until he starts playing. For the kids sake, I hope he comes back strong. I hate to see kids get injured.