Harper 37 Minutes
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Strongly disagree. The occasional game it works but it’s a Long term issue.
Every minute above 30 you play ...you get less from that minute.
If we want to go far...we need guys fresh in March.
Every minute above 30 you play ...you get less from that minute.
If we want to go far...we need guys fresh in March.
also Baker 37 and Mulcahy 36. Interesting. FYI Marcus Carr leads the league at an average of 35.5., so I’m sure this is not going to be a pattern.
There is 0 evidence to this comment.
I’d play 5 guys 40 if we had to and it led to a win on a given night.
Every game is different
Every game is different
The problem is that we don’t have another guy who can defend the 4 spot, unless you play the twin towers with Myles and Cliff.
Palmquist and Reiber have the size, but they just aren’t ready to get extended minutes.
Palmquist and Reiber have the size, but they just aren’t ready to get extended minutes.
Very interesting. If Geo is scoring to make up for his D his minutes can be where they have been all year which are pretty high 2nd on team in conference - but today is the first time and a long time that happens. Maybe it’s sustainable but Geo will show us if it is or not.
Paul, I think Paul played OK on offense today, but generally speaking I don’t think he gives enough on offense to play that many minutes with the - D he gives. In this instance, I’m less confident it’s sustainable than the above. Some of those minutes should go to Young who downs not need to score to be a + player. And also if you want Young back next year...
Good job overall by Pike though to cut the frequency of substitutions and to shorten the rotation. Still some tinkering to do but he tinkered enough to get a W and it was nice to see he made a change.
You don’t shorten the bench in January permanent ...in March you can in the win or go home scanairo...but you got to get there first ...
I don't mind some iso with him. He's gotta get the ball closer to the block if he's gonna use the turnaround.
Still struggling from 3. All but 1 were great catch and shoot looks.
Still struggling from 3. All but 1 were great catch and shoot looks.
When we have one guy hold the ball at the top of the key and run the clock down to 10, I’m betting our good shot percentage is close to 10%
I think Geo playing PG again made a big difference for us. He scored 19 points and had 5 assists which he hasn't been getting as much when he was off the bench. Jacob is instant energy off the bench. His one steal and quick toss to Geo for the breakaway was amazing. I feel bad that Tez only played 3 minutes but we got the win today with everyone who played contributing. It sure feels so much better than losing.
Ron should NEVER be in iso on the wing. He is NOT a guy who can create his own shot. He is a spot up shooter on the wing.
I don’t mind Ron in iso on the block though.
I thought Mulcahy played MUCH better on offense today. It’s exactly what I have been saying we need out of him. Didn’t hesitate on shooting a 3 and was driving to the basket looking to score actually. That is what we need as it opens things up and he is such a good passer. Just be aggressive and NOT just looking to pass
And with the exception of a quick start with 7 points, he got extremely lazy hanging out on the perimeter. The minute he went down low, he got the high lo dunk from Cliff and 2 short turnaround 10 footers in the second half late. The key difference is he decided for the last 5-6 minutes of the game to play defense and rebound . That was the Ron defense and rebounding we were used to and was missing in the 5 game skid. He has fallen in love with the three point line way too much. I want him doing high lows with Myles, Cliff and getting on the block where he can also rebound. His 12 boards tonight should not be an aberration. He should be doing that every game if he stops being lazy hanging out at the 3 point line.
There's 37 minutes in a half court, walk it up the court type of game, where Harper's man wasn't a factor on the offensive end of the court and then there are stressful minutes in an up and down the court game vs Iowa, where you have scoring threats capable of shooting and scoring.
Don't equate one game where Mathis doesn't play much, Mulcahy and Harper plays a ton and think problems are solved. There are some good things you can take away from having Caleb McConnell get a couple of deflections and helping slow the pace of the offense in half court.
Don't equate one game where Mathis doesn't play much, Mulcahy and Harper plays a ton and think problems are solved. There are some good things you can take away from having Caleb McConnell get a couple of deflections and helping slow the pace of the offense in half court.
You are right Zap. These are young guys who should be in shape with the amount of days they have had off. We are not playing 3-4 times per week. It is all about effort and for that we should congratulate them for TODAY ... now build upon this .
I can see Paul becoming a much bigger scorer for us in his Junior and Senior seasons.
Had great looks today early in the shot clock as a result of pushing the ball - and this game guys did not pass up these looks they pulled the trigger. One of the keys to the game for sure.
your best players can and need to play alot of minutes. Its true of most top 25 schools. Not saying Harper and Geo need to play 37 every night and they wont but certainly in the 32-35 range
I disagree. Ron demonstrated several times today how he creates his own shot driving into the lane with fade aways. Tough shots but he hit them.
I think the previous 2 games, he literally airball those shots.
No. I am not. Harper did a lot of good things today. There were possessions again today on the defensive end where he wasn’t fully engaged.
we can’t bench certain players who don’t give 100% and allow Harper to take defensive possessions off.
harper is a talented player, but he isn’t good enough to help us on a 1/2 tank. When Mathis is in the mix we are better with Harper giving us his best for 30 minutes.
I am sure of this.
I thought he was very good in the second half of the PSU game creating his own shot. I think the little bit of benching in the 2nd half of that game has sparked him.
I think he still needs to figure out, when creating for himself, what is a good shot. But he certainly can create good shots for himself.
I think asking him to be a pure spot up shooter is the exact wrong approach. He needs to be aggressive.
Ya, pass first is great, and teams will play him that way which will open up scoring opportunities for him. He needs to take advantage when those opportunities present themselves, he can't be pass only.
I think he has shown progress and expect he will continue to show progress.
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Harper isn’t that good. I’ll take Montez’s 10th minute of the game over Harpers 32nd minute most days.
Harper had some enormous rebounds down the stretch...I dont like that take you just posted, I think you know better
I mean he was grabbing boards and blocking shots in the last 3 minutes of the game
RHJ and Geo are our 2 best scorers over last 2 years. Young was playing at a high level until he got hurt. He played well today but didn’t look to score so much which may be the gameplan or at least for this game. Every game is different so maybe it’s the Young and Mathis run and gun against other teams.
Caleb and Mulcahey played very well today. I’ll take those all around games from them every night but I didn’t think they looked as good against PSU. They and the team looked sluggish on Thursday. It happens.
Myles was great and I think Cliff is back. He is going to be very good. That’s an 8 man rotation which you expect in big games. This was a big game.
Caleb and Mulcahey played very well today. I’ll take those all around games from them every night but I didn’t think they looked as good against PSU. They and the team looked sluggish on Thursday. It happens.
Myles was great and I think Cliff is back. He is going to be very good. That’s an 8 man rotation which you expect in big games. This was a big game.
I’ll stand by the fact that Harper in minutes 32+ is not as good as fresh options we have off the bench.
watch Harper defensively on the run where IU went from 15 down to 3. Also towards the end of the game he was short on the smae fall back shot he made earlier.
harper is a very good player. He isn’t in top shape and he isnt an elite player where you live with things because you need him on the floor offensively
his shot at 68-65 to make it 70-65 stepback likely won the game. He had 7 of our last 8 points
He will (and has been) our key to our season. He is getting good looks again- a few just missed (were dead on). If he gets hot again- look out.
I have one piece of advice for Ron Harper , Geo Baker and the team . Just keep shooting and hustling the rest takes care of itself.