Hank or Heck?

[like-woahh]

There’s the old saying that you don’t lose your starting job due to injury. I fully expect to see Hank under center against Minnesota.

Tom Brady and Kurt Warner enter the chat

 

[tampahawkfan77]

What is your evidence that Hank is less mobile? In fact, he is the faster runner.

Ok but it doesn't really help if he just stands and holds the ball.. 17 carries for 16 yards isn't exactly screaming running threat. My point remains about KF, though. He pretty clearly prefers the pocket QBs.

 

[10001110101]

I'm shocked that so many Hawk fans think there is anything difficult about this decision.

Heck is QB1.

 

[Passing Is For COMMIES]

I'm shocked that so many Hawk fans think there is anything difficult about this decision.

Heck is QB1.

That Washington team is a big ten bottom feeder, we really didn’t learn much about Heck other than he can hit open receivers when under zero pressure. We’ve seen 2 games where he didn’t do that though.

They are both pretty average if we’re being honest.

 

[10001110101]

That Washington team is a big ten bottom feeder, we really didn’t learn much about Heck other than he can hit open receivers when under zero pressure. We’ve seen 2 games where he didn’t do that though.

They are both pretty average if we’re being honest.

OK. Washington is bad.

What things did Heck do poorly?

 

[Passing Is For COMMIES]

OK. Washington is bad.

What things did Heck do poorly?

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

 

[10001110101]

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

Accurate passes.

 

[10001110101]

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

Little to no indecisiveness.

 

[10001110101]

What's so funny?

 

[Passing Is For COMMIES]

Little to no indecisiveness.

Hank has gotten rid of the ball faster in every game they’ve both played. He’s also been more accurate through the season so what’s your point? Hank would have put up the exact same performance against that team.

It’s pretty obvious you’ve made your decision and you won’t accept any response that isn’t in agreement with you so I guess I’ll drop it.

 

[10001110101]

Hank has gotten rid of the ball faster in every game they’ve both played. He’s also been more accurate through the season so what’s your point? Hank would have put up the exact same performance against that team.

 

[10001110101]

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

And maybe the team playing so well, knowing Heck was their QB this game, was not a coincidence?

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Heck because I prefer his moxie. Don't care if he's shorter. He gives the offense some fire because he's a gamer.

 

[10001110101]

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

Yeah Washington's D was bad.

But still, there was nothing about Heck's performance that screamed "average" to me.

Trying to figure out what was average about Heck's performance, to you.

 

[10001110101]

Hank has gotten rid of the ball faster in every game they’ve both played. He’s also been more accurate through the season so what’s your point? Hank would have put up the exact same performance against that team.

It’s pretty obvious you’ve made your decision and you won’t accept any response that isn’t in agreement with you so I guess I’ll drop it.

If Hank does indeed get the ball out faster, it's because he doesn't scan the whole field, even when he has time to do so.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

 

[3-D_chess]

For you contrarians, numbers don't lie.

Nothing. What did he do well? What did he do that Hank couldn’t?

Score 27 in a half against a P4 team. Why are you making me humiliate you ??!!

 

[Hawkfan82]

Not when peoples mind is made up. What have you done for me lately. The OSU loss has many forgetting the 4Q at Michigan.

I remember on that last drive he missed a wide open diaz for an easy touchdown. He took advantage of his second chance. That was nice. I thick hecklinski would have made that diaz touchdown throw.

 

[bansheexyz]

Heck played well, but that Washington defense was atrocious. I can recall the back shoulder completion to RVZ, and a completion to Diaz where the defenders were actually maybe close enough to make a play on the ball. The other 12 completions were to WIDE open guys. Honestly, they probably weren’t even close enough RVZs catch, he had created some room.

Im not anointing Heck for hitting wide open receivers under zero pressure. He lost the job fair and square earlier by not playing well against NIU and UNI. He did play well enough to open up the QB controversy again though.

Hecks ball was right on the money all day. That matters. Even his incompletions weren't inaccurate, they were hitting hands and put in places away from the defender. His speed and agility and processing time are better than Brown. He is not worlds better than Brown but he's better. Browns performance vs OSU made me mad, it came off as scared and flaccid after a week of buildup. Maybe he was hurt, maybe not, but he wasn't competitive.

 

[Daddy_chubs]

Heck is the better gamer, and he’s willing to take risks all game to push the ball downfield- to play to win. Hank only does that when he’s forced to, i.e. Michigan. Can’t rely on that mentality and expect to consistently win the big games.

 

[herkhatescy2]

I say Heck but I know Ferentz will say Brown.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

During the game they said Michigan Stadium was, iirc, expanded to 100,001 at some point, the extra seat being for Fritz Chrysler. The OP just mentioned 100,000 so ...

Super. I googled it and it says (as of Aug 2026) the big house holds 107, 601, (Its the largest stadium in the USA, and third largest in the world), Like everything the talking heads say during games is gospel? For the record they list Michigans AVERAGE attend for the 2025 as 110, 824, so they evidently have around 3000 SRO tickets. SO.......

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Was this an entire new playbook due to heck playing? Everything seemed different offensively, plus guys just seemed to want it with heck under center. Hank’s been serviceable, but heck might be the difference needed.

Not sure. What I do know is this offense based off play action looks TOTALLY different when you can run the ball. The first 6 games tell us exactly that.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Then you don't know QBs any better than KF does. That's a shame.

And clearly you spend most of your time talking out your backside.........Maybe learn to walk backwards?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

"Threw it pretty well." Three touchdowns, no INTs, and completed his last 12 passes in a row. You, my friend, are a master of understatement.

"Threw it pretty well." Three touchdowns, no INTs, and completed his last 12 passes in a row. You, my friend, are a master of understatement.

Three TDs to three guys that didn't have anyone within 10 yds of them. Boy he REALLY had to zip those in there under pressure didn't he. It was a function of the plays called by Lester, and pounding them in the run game AND WAshingtons DB's were crap. I'm fine with Heck, but your pure nonsense that there's ANY correlation to the way the TEAM played against OSU, (and a 10x better defense) then what we saw last night is stupifying.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

The entire new playbook was based on being able to run on the Washington front and having time for plays with three run fakes. They couldn't get in our lap quickly like Michigan and OSU or that stuff doesn't work. Hank also probably would have had big night last night.

What last night showed me is that we have two good-not-great QBs who Lester and KF can be confident in down the second half stretch. It makes sense that they struggled to pick a starter so long. Wasn't gamesmanship. Like others have said, I would probably ride the hot hand. Both QBs seemed to have thrived on the competition for the job.

If I was Ferentz or Lester with a bye, I'd probably have them split reps with 1s this week, decide on a starter for the week of Minny and roll with him if he's playing well. Not getting to see practice, I would probably start Heck in two weeks and let him roll if he's dealing. If he struggles, let Brown come in relief. Or vice versa if Brown beats him out in practice but it's as close as it must have been all spring and in camp.

It's nice having two QBs who can move the offense.

Good Lord. Someone here able to look beyond the nose on their face........Well done sir..

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

I'm shocked that so many Hawk fans think there is anything difficult about this decision.

Heck is QB1.

And who's decision will that be?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

For you contrarians, numbers don't lie.

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Score 27 in a half against a P4 team. Why are you making me humiliate you ??!!

Hmm. Maybe because our RB1 had a career high 204 yds? And they were off balance and their DB's were running themselves out of coverage all night.