Haarms update.

Ben101er

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She looks pretty good


Just 3 1/2 hours from Lexington, big guy.
 

Pickle_Rick

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I just wonder if the Zags are gonna hang a banner for their declared 2020 'ship in zagaholics little twa... i mean tweet.

To be honest, I'm sure we can all name schools that do that sort of thing.
 
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caneintally

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Kind of shows the state of UK basketball, when here we are again in the off season waiting a grad transfer to try and salvage a decent season next year. Last year we lost to FLA, and this year may be Gonzaga. Ugh.
And boy did we suck this past season [roll][roll][roll]. You realize literally every team including Arizona and Gonzaga are struggling to fill a roster with what 4000 players in the portal and 400 in the draft ? It is just the way it is . Did you not read the bottom of the crawl last week every night on espn . Like 30 transfers were announced just on that crawl last week . This comment just doesn't allow for any of the reality of college basketball and makes it seem like it is something to do with UK . [eyeroll]
 

caneintally

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"It seems like" and "I would bet" is not saying Gonzaga is HAARMS #1, he is saying it is his opinion that if the Gonzaga player stays in the draft, he feels they will get him. But you can take the worst possible outcome for UK from that tweet if you want to. I took it as the guy feels like Haarms list Gonzaga as one of the 3 best possible destinations. Just like KSR liked UK's position with him.
I honestly hope that tweet is correct as we will get him then as I doubt Pertusiv is staying in the draft . I mean he could be another EJ but I wouldn't bet on it .
 

Cowtown Cat

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I hope if we are his back up plan then we get 2 of those reclass big guys and then we say no thanks... We don't need to be anyone's backup plan I just do not get it all the minutes to be had at the 5 with the studs he would be surrounded by and a chance at a National Championship and you're waiting to pull the trigger ???? Man this is just mind boggling to me doesn't he understand that Calipari has coached Cousins, Davis, WCS, KAT, and Bam he has expanded each of these guys games and made them better players even in the 1 year he had them and in some cases multiple years!!!!!!
Some guys just aren’t built for the big time. The big time is here, not at Gonzaga. Some guys would rather coast than be pushed. Just the way it is.
 

FrankUnderwood

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And boy did we suck this past season [roll][roll][roll]. You realize literally every team including Arizona and Gonzaga are struggling to fill a roster with what 4000 players in the portal and 400 in the draft ? It is just the way it is . Did you not read the bottom of the crawl last week every night on espn . Like 30 transfers were announced just on that crawl last week . This comment just doesn't allow for any of the reality of college basketball and makes it seem like it is something to do with UK . [eyeroll]


Ehh. I agree with both of y’all but no other team is losing 8 guys total , 98% (yes literally) of their scoring, all 5 starters and only returning 1 player who played remotely significant minutes.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Ehh. I agree with both of y’all but no other team is losing 8 guys total , 98% (yes literally) of their scoring, all 5 starters and only returning 1 player who played remotely significant minutes.
Yes and it happens every year here. It’s not losing the ones that are ready for the pros. It’s losing the ones that AREN’T ready for the pros. That’s the issue.
 

ImUTGagain

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Kind of shows the state of UK basketball, when here we are again in the off season waiting a grad transfer to try and salvage a decent season next year. Last year we lost to FLA, and this year may be Gonzaga. Ugh.

You have no clue watch you are watching. You just sad
 
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mdlUK.1

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Yes and it happens every year here. It’s not losing the ones that are ready for the pros. It’s losing the ones that AREN’T ready for the pros. That’s the issue.
Well what’s your solution? We all know the issue Nd it’s not just happening at UK.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Ehh. I agree with both of y’all but no other team is losing 8 guys total , 98% (yes literally) of their scoring, all 5 starters and only returning 1 player who played remotely significant minutes.

Good post.

It's also a reminder that UK lives and dies by who the program brings in every year. Some of our fans are quick to point out how most teams lose multiple transfers; but they also often negate mentioning what you just did - that we also lose most of our fringe guys each year to the NBA or G-League and thus have to completely rebuild a team.

I continue to contend that we don't have enough and will not have enough - even with Haarms - unless we add a third super stud freshman. If we don't return a decent portion of our fringe guys (and we haven't this off season), you absolutely need an elite class that has at least three super studs. We have two coming in and they're surrounded by a number of very good role players. That's likely not enough for a title, however. The sample size the last few years has been convincing. You can't depend on guys ranked in that 25-50 range, and we'll have a bunch of them next year. Here, someone will mention Herro or SGA, but there's three Quade Greens for every one of them.

We probably need Kuminga, Banchero, or Cisse if we're going to win a title. People can scrap and claw to try to make an argument for why Askew or Brooks or Mintz will outperform expectations, but history has dictated that doing so with players of that caliber is both unfair to the player, and also unfair to the possibilities of our next team.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Well what’s your solution? We all know the issue Nd it’s not just happening at UK.

The solution is the same as it was in 2009 when Cal first came here.

Get as much legitimate, instant-impact talent to Lexington as possible. This means we need a third super stud to reclass and come here.

Depending on guys in the 25-50 range doesn't work. Counting on them to return for a second or third year doesn't work. With the OAD evidently being extended until 2026, we have time to continue to land elite players. If this means that we need to provide "perks" to get some of them here, so be it.
 

cal=8

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And all this is just assuming we'll even have a Basketball season next year..
 

Titpwhami2014

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I understand that Haarms has a girlfriend, still at Purdue. At UK, he is only a little further than a 3 hour drive to see her. Plus, the weather in Spokane is unbearable. Why in the world would he go there?

I think Gonzaga is our top competition based on Few’s ability to develop bigs. Off the top of my head, he’s helped post guys like Robert Sacre, Zach Collins, Domatas Sabonis, Rony Turiaf, Rui Hachimura (more of a 4) and Brandon Clarke. Kyle Wiltjer had a good run too for them. That’s not a bad list.
 

UK90

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I think Gonzaga is our top competition based on Few’s ability to develop bigs. Off the top of my head, he’s helped post guys like Robert Sacre, Zach Collins, Domatas Sabonis, Rony Turiaf, Rui Hachimura (more of a 4) and Brandon Clarke. Kyle Wiltjer had a good run too for them. That’s not a bad list.

You're forgetting probably his most impressive development case: Kelly Olynick. That dude made an incredible transformation from unwanted stiff to lottery stud during his Gonzaga career.

I can certainly see why Haarms would be interested in Zaga. Few's zone based system is a good fit for him (and, really, better for him than Cal's man to man system), and Few has an impressive track record doing good things with big men like him.

But I can't see Haarms choosing Zaga if Petrusev comes back. He ain't going somewhere to be a backup.
 
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I am not sure I agree on how well he develops bigs. His bigs that you mentioned have averaged 10.23 ppg and 5.83 rpg over their NBA careers. If you take out Sabonis then it drops to 8.58 ppg and 4.52 rpg. That isn't setting the world on fire and isn't going to get you a huge NBA contract or keep you in the league for long.


I think Gonzaga is our top competition based on Few’s ability to develop bigs. Off the top of my head, he’s helped post guys like Robert Sacre, Zach Collins, Domatas Sabonis, Rony Turiaf, Rui Hachimura (more of a 4) and Brandon Clarke. Kyle Wiltjer had a good run too for them. That’s not a bad list.
 

littlecreek

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I think Gonzaga is our top competition based on Few’s ability to develop bigs. Off the top of my head, he’s helped post guys like Robert Sacre, Zach Collins, Domatas Sabonis, Rony Turiaf, Rui Hachimura (more of a 4) and Brandon Clarke. Kyle Wiltjer had a good run too for them. That’s not a bad list.
Compared to Cuz, AD, WCS, KAT, and Bam? There is no comparison to these studs.
 

Titpwhami2014

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Compared to Cuz, AD, WCS, KAT, and Bam? There is no comparison to these studs.

We all know ours are better, I was just saying why I think it’s between us and them. You hope that Haarms sees this and makes the right call. My only fear is that, like Haarms, several of Gonzaga’s guys are foreigners. Shouldn’t matter, but you never know.