It’s not brave. It was brave 6 months ago. Or two years ago. Real men like GW and John McCain and Mitt Romney actually have balls.
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Yup. No one has done more for their legacy in the last four years than Mitt Romney. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he took a political beating for four years because he had integrity.
No one gets any credit for taking a stand now that it's the obvious political play.
No one gets any credit for taking a stand now that it's the obvious political play.
I mean, I get the argument it isn't brave for McConnell because he's entrenched in his position but Romney and McCain weren't exactly in Mississippi waging their arguments. Hell, I'd argue Romney would face pressure if he didn't stand against Trump.
The fact that he has the power to split this party overnight says a lot about the status of the Republican party right now.
The fact that he has the power to split this party overnight says a lot about the status of the Republican party right now.
You must have read something into it that wasn't there. Calm down, Cal.
That may be accurate!
Congrats on your political win. Big time. Enjoy the ivory tower!! I know y'all are comfortable there.
It's refreshing to see the conservatives on here call this the ridiculous **** show that it is. It's beyond ridiculous.
Just wish we had the seen the liberals condemn the equally juvenile and Un American **** that transpired for alot of the past year.
Just wish we had the seen the liberals condemn the equally juvenile and Un American **** that transpired for alot of the past year.
I think the smart play is this:
1.) The people protesting what they viewed as police brutality were fine. The looters/rioters were vandals that should be arrested for their crimes.
2.) The people protesting what the viewed as a stolen election were fine. The rioters that stormed the capitol should be arrested for their crimes.
Anything acting like there's nuance that makes one circumstance better than the other is playing partisan politics.
1.) The people protesting what they viewed as police brutality were fine. The looters/rioters were vandals that should be arrested for their crimes.
2.) The people protesting what the viewed as a stolen election were fine. The rioters that stormed the capitol should be arrested for their crimes.
Anything acting like there's nuance that makes one circumstance better than the other is playing partisan politics.
Term limits. Both sides equally suck my nuts.
Yea that was awful how they burned the city down today. totally understand the outrage from you guys,
^^this little gem was Washington D.C. May of last year
Every single one of you liberals supported this burning of American cities last year yet cry over today. congrats on your win though,.
^^this little gem was Washington D.C. May of last year
Every single one of you liberals supported this burning of American cities last year yet cry over today. congrats on your win though,.
Does that mean you acknowledge the perpetrators today are also domestic terrorists or nah
Whataboutism is AIDS.
Whataboutism is AIDS.
Not a single person in this thread supported the burning of cities. Go f*ck yourself you bootlicking dipshit.
No thanks. The last thing I want to do is to read a book that makes me think of PTI.
Way to completely make my point asshat.
VSUYCOT. HATEMA ATKOT.
VSUYCOT. HATEMA ATKOT.
I think the smart play would be not to compare/contrast the Antifa/BLM riots and trumps Capital riot. We’re all adults, we all saw the ****.
We somehow have to find a way to get rid of the crazy *** conspiracy theorists. The acceptance of them in politics is saturating America with the absolute gutter trash of our country. People dumb enough to believe all of this **** need to STFU and let the adults drive.
10 times out of 10 I’d rather have someone in office that I vehemently disagree with on policy versus someone who is either (a) so profoundly stupid to actually be dangerous, or (b) pretends to believe in these conspiracy theories in order to suckle at the teet of their mongoloid base.
CLEAN IT UP AMERICA
10 times out of 10 I’d rather have someone in office that I vehemently disagree with on policy versus someone who is either (a) so profoundly stupid to actually be dangerous, or (b) pretends to believe in these conspiracy theories in order to suckle at the teet of their mongoloid base.
CLEAN IT UP AMERICA
people storming the capital building should be prosecuted to the fullest.
your turn.
everyone who started that storm of the capital building were paid crisis actors. their pictures have been all over every riot for the last year. guess which side that was?
fake dossiers, russia russia russia russia russia. spying on campaigns, nothing to see there either.
see, you arrogants only know when to be upset when you have been told which team is playing. quote me again when some group other than antifa or blm burn something down.
People burning down cities should be arrested and prosecuted.
People destroying public or private property should be arrested and prosecuted.
People breaking into the Capitol should be arrested and prosecuted.
People who shoot or assault cops should be arrested and prosecuted.
Cops who use excessive force should be arrested and prosecuted.
Politicians participating in insurrection/treason/sedition should be arrested and prosecuted.
People participating in peaceful protests should be left the f*ck alone. (Except Westboro, f*ck them)
That clear enough for you, *****.
People destroying public or private property should be arrested and prosecuted.
People breaking into the Capitol should be arrested and prosecuted.
People who shoot or assault cops should be arrested and prosecuted.
Cops who use excessive force should be arrested and prosecuted.
Politicians participating in insurrection/treason/sedition should be arrested and prosecuted.
People participating in peaceful protests should be left the f*ck alone. (Except Westboro, f*ck them)
That clear enough for you, *****.
This guy thinks a dude who has a "sickle and hammer" tattoo (it's a video game reference) on his hand is Antifa. You are the problem amigo. You are why we cannot proceed normally. You are why I'm up at 1 in the morning arguing about the future of our nation.
You are cancer. This is chemo.
Edit: Do you believe Sandy Hook was crisis acting to take your guns? That a basement pizza parlor is the hub of the worldwide child sex trafficking wing? Have you visited 4chan lately?
You are cancer. This is chemo.
Edit: Do you believe Sandy Hook was crisis acting to take your guns? That a basement pizza parlor is the hub of the worldwide child sex trafficking wing? Have you visited 4chan lately?
Mods, please ban. We’re done here.
My own grandma thought today was a reckoning and my mom told her to stop being senile. And even grandma didn't say "paid crisis actors" so GTFO, HATEMA etc.
No doubt this was a planned gathering - they walked in line single file like it was a school trip - doesn’t take much effort to figure out - they have photos of 4 different Antifa regulars - this was staged for the optics so to blame all Trumpers - there is some really funny videos up showing how staged it was
Did some Trumpers follow Antifa in I’m sure but this crap was staged
Did some Trumpers follow Antifa in I’m sure but this crap was staged
Nah, don't ban, take your ******** level of crazy back to the political thread where you will be coddled like the child you are. The adults are talking in here and we agree that rioting and looting is not only stupid but should be punished by every ounce of the law.
I don't even give a **** that people are dumb enough to risk their lives over perceived racism (the numbers actually tell a different story) and election fraud (everyone but Trumpers tell a different story), I do care when people are stunned at the results of such action when it gets out of control.
I don't even give a **** that people are dumb enough to risk their lives over perceived racism (the numbers actually tell a different story) and election fraud (everyone but Trumpers tell a different story), I do care when people are stunned at the results of such action when it gets out of control.
Has anyone considered that had the riots from last summer been dealt with more forcefully, today doesn't happen?
We know not much is going to happen from today, legally, so will the next group of rioters be more emboldened? The likely answer is yes. I'm ok with making an example of some of these people from today if that is the national standard moving forward.
We know not much is going to happen from today, legally, so will the next group of rioters be more emboldened? The likely answer is yes. I'm ok with making an example of some of these people from today if that is the national standard moving forward.
I never do this but GTFO. You are a brainwashed delusional idiot.,
Chief, treat it like a vacuum dude. The police were quick to start striking BLM protestors/rioters (and in many cases, rightfully so) while mainly folding to the Trumpers today.
Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police with an AR-15 telling them he'd defended himself and they let him leave. There's clearly some levels of reaction to what is happening in this nation, but that doesn't make any situation "more right" or correct than the next.
Let's do what Trump refuses to:
1.) Burning businesses is wrong
2.) Looting businesses is wrong
3.) Breaching capitols (Michigan had this problem earlier this year) is wrong
There aren't political teams for legality. Why is this a discussion?
Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police with an AR-15 telling them he'd defended himself and they let him leave. There's clearly some levels of reaction to what is happening in this nation, but that doesn't make any situation "more right" or correct than the next.
Let's do what Trump refuses to:
1.) Burning businesses is wrong
2.) Looting businesses is wrong
3.) Breaching capitols (Michigan had this problem earlier this year) is wrong
There aren't political teams for legality. Why is this a discussion?
Hey, you f*cking moron...you are too ******* stupid to realize how much you are hurting the side you think you are helping.
Make NO mistake...dumbass, mouthbreathing, "patriots" like yourself cost the House in 2018, the Senate, and now your Dear Leader.
You have no idea how many millions and millions are spent trying to keep away the Mountain Dew-rotted teeth stench of your kind away from solid, in it for the right reason, Republicans.
But you and your Q-f*cking brethren have destroyed the party you proclaim to be defending.
Seriously, f*ck you. Stop hiding behind patriotism, and start proclaiming this for being the feeble minded piece of ***** you are.
I think the dude with the horn hat could be an actor. I would like to see him in some sort of comedy or something. Perhaps in 10 years when he gets out of prison.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Trump try to use the NG this summer and was shot down by local and state politicians?
Call it what you will but Democrats and the national media basically normalized the violence last summer. Violence that was political in nature many times. Think the crazy Trump supporters from today didn't see that?
At any rate, not here to rehash that. Let's set a national standard and move forward. Make an example out of the folks today that broke laws(and windows) and the idiots in Portland.
Trump wanted to use the NG anytime opposition rose. He used the terms "crush" several times, which led to some controversy from literally everyone in his cabinet and, especially, the states dealing with crises.
Conveniently for you, most of those states had democratic leadership to blame. And, in many cases, they should be blamed. However, you're conveniently leaving out the part where the President held a rally today to "SAVE AMERICA" and waited until after lockdown to condemn violence. If the governor of Oregon is OK with CHAZ, I disagree with them but I don't recall anyone actively advocating to attack their state's cities and businesses in the process.
Not only that, Trump's kids called today's rioters "Patriots" (Ivanka specifically).
It's harmful when Democrats advocate violence. I hated what happened this past summer and I think a lot of what caused those riots led to today's riots (unemployment, disapproval with the government's handling of this crisis, general anger, etc.) This isn't a partisan issue, but partisan's cannot be convinced of that.
Conveniently for you, most of those states had democratic leadership to blame. And, in many cases, they should be blamed. However, you're conveniently leaving out the part where the President held a rally today to "SAVE AMERICA" and waited until after lockdown to condemn violence. If the governor of Oregon is OK with CHAZ, I disagree with them but I don't recall anyone actively advocating to attack their state's cities and businesses in the process.
Not only that, Trump's kids called today's rioters "Patriots" (Ivanka specifically).
It's harmful when Democrats advocate violence. I hated what happened this past summer and I think a lot of what caused those riots led to today's riots (unemployment, disapproval with the government's handling of this crisis, general anger, etc.) This isn't a partisan issue, but partisan's cannot be convinced of that.
I voted for Trump. I’m not afraid to admit it.
I’m also not afraid to admit that I was wrong.
Sad day for our country.
I’m also not afraid to admit that I was wrong.
Sad day for our country.
It looks like to me that in order to get his jumper off, he has to take the ball all the way down to his waist to get it started even if it’s just a short shot.
The media and social media are why we are here as a country. Not acknowledging good policies Republicans (Trump) did set in place and not acknowledging when Democrats (Pelosi and others) were out of line in their actions toward the Republicans are why we are here. The media has influenced the "pick a side" and "nothing is good from the other side" mentality.
This is not the political thread. Unless you're a regular (or chief) ----> take your hot political takes, build a fire, stand in it, and GFY.
You know what, Hank...scratch that thumbs up. I've read this thread for about 18 years. Started because I liked reading Wyvern during football szn. Its a great place to keep up with the events of the day in all areas. The last three pages provoked me to post a thought. I have posted less than 10 times in 18 years. I'm not a political poster, not even a general poster. Just a lurker with a thought. So therefore I will not gfm. Carry on.
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