GYERO ARCHIVE
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-as are we...prolly sexist cause i would be very open to "alternate" track if I had boys. Granted...we require "marketable" degrees of our girls.
-what I ask myself is "why?"...am I doing the right thing? We have the means(knock on wood) so debt will be at a minimum. For most folks its an albatross that is *hard* to overcome.
Obviously, but a little selfish devil on my shoulder is pulling for scholarship or skilled trade because not blowing that 529 on a marketing degree from a 75k per year private college would be few years of earlier retirement.
GYERO loves playing extremes, but there is a really solid middle ground here. How about getting a basic 2 or 4-year degree as inexpensively as possible, but still ending up learning a trade?
A 1-man operation plumber/electrician/hvac/etc makes damn good money. One that has that skill AND knows basic accounting/marketing can make a ton. More than SAE, for sure.
A 1-man operation plumber/electrician/hvac/etc makes damn good money. One that has that skill AND knows basic accounting/marketing can make a ton. More than SAE, for sure.
4 year degree +
Trade School
There isn't a one size fits all answer, obviously.
If you're going to go the college route, at least be smart about it (unless you have unlimited means)
By that I mean, do your first couple of years at an accredited community or junior college. Transfer, to a reasonably priced 4 year school etc. And then kick butt on your graduate school entrance exams, if a graduate degree is what is required to do what you want to do. And just know, that you're going to spend MANY MANY years paying off those loans, at a salary that is quite a bit less than you'd have already been making if you learned a trade. That doesn't make it the WRONG decision, but know what you're signing up for.
Trade School
There isn't a one size fits all answer, obviously.
If you're going to go the college route, at least be smart about it (unless you have unlimited means)
By that I mean, do your first couple of years at an accredited community or junior college. Transfer, to a reasonably priced 4 year school etc. And then kick butt on your graduate school entrance exams, if a graduate degree is what is required to do what you want to do. And just know, that you're going to spend MANY MANY years paying off those loans, at a salary that is quite a bit less than you'd have already been making if you learned a trade. That doesn't make it the WRONG decision, but know what you're signing up for.
I guess the better question is, "What do they want to do?" A four year philosophy degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on (I know, I have one). My political science degree isn't much worth anything either. My minor in finance gave me a foot in a door, however, and the general consensus that a four year school can help develop the ability to "learn" is not lost on employers. But I also left school with 13k in loans over some stupid stuff (a year of rent so I could spend my meager income on electronics/general waste) rather than my tuition (which I paid for after my freshman year).
We don't require a four year degree here, but the career path has a ceiling on folks who haven't completed secondary education. Meanwhile, a realtor friend's son is moving to Florida to be an underwater welder (a highly refined skill) on an oil rig and will likely bring home 125k at 21. Not a bad gig at all. There's opportunity everywhere, go get it however you see fit.
We don't require a four year degree here, but the career path has a ceiling on folks who haven't completed secondary education. Meanwhile, a realtor friend's son is moving to Florida to be an underwater welder (a highly refined skill) on an oil rig and will likely bring home 125k at 21. Not a bad gig at all. There's opportunity everywhere, go get it however you see fit.
My youngest son is going to play futbol for Barcelona and my oldest will do just fine as a card-counting grifter, so I'm feeling pretty good about the non-college approach.
I think we’ve gone over it and GYERO and its posters have proven time and again how a job requiring a college degree affords almost little time for leisure or down time at all, and would be preferred over the laid back, not at all grueling constant labor required in a “trade”.
Hey they're doing really well then, which is what America's all about. Good for them!
Not sure why you're obsessed with my income but it's amusing.
Not sure why you're obsessed with my income but it's amusing.
It's foolish to me but the stigma of working with your hands nowadays is ridiculous. My kids are young, but I have coworkers who's kids are trying to legitimately harm themselves on IG to go "viral". That's the prospect, momentary popularity. This generation is no worse than that preceding it, but the dynamic has certainly changed.
I won't lament the lack of parenting that would guide a child through a proper education policy. I would, however, be inclined to systems I've heard of in Europe that test aptitude for work and then help push the child in that direction once it can be determined that they are better skilled to be a Doctor or a Plumber.
I won't lament the lack of parenting that would guide a child through a proper education policy. I would, however, be inclined to systems I've heard of in Europe that test aptitude for work and then help push the child in that direction once it can be determined that they are better skilled to be a Doctor or a Plumber.
Sure! Would anyone else like copies of my financials?
PTI(pti) went to 4 years of college + MBA, which worked out very well for him.
Everyone else is an idiot if they choose the college route.
Everyone else is an idiot if they choose the college route.
I mean I’m not gonna sit here and generalize but I see a lot of parents paying for their kids to go to private middle and high schools talking about the value in trade school vs. college and can’t help but wonder how those dinner table conversations might be different than their #takes in public. But again- I’m not gonna sit here and generalize.
But to the greater point- there’s several attorneys in my family and we all agree that the cousin who opened up the hair salon is the real MVP
But to the greater point- there’s several attorneys in my family and we all agree that the cousin who opened up the hair salon is the real MVP
I don't look down on the trades at all, but I don't get the point of going to a 4-year college AND, say, becoming a plumber. If you're sharp AND interested enough to really get something out of a 4-year education and not just go there for the "college experience", you probably can earn a better living in a white collar profession. A lot of dudes who lived in the dorms at UK went to LCC. They were there to party for two years, flunk out, and head back home to become home builders or whatever. Most of them I know are doing pretty well.
I just want to look and dress as sharply as SAE, frankly. I've come close to unfollowing him on Facebook because when I see pics it just makes me feel that much worse about being such a slob myself.
By the way, I'm wearing an ill-fitting henley today. PROSECUTION RESTS, YOUR HONOR.
By the way, I'm wearing an ill-fitting henley today. PROSECUTION RESTS, YOUR HONOR.
-the key is getting a marketable/"professional" degree.
-examples:
wanna be an engineer? Better look at electrical/computer track. Civil/structural=lower pay/slower growth.
Pre-med? Better plan to specialize. Gp/peds....7 years is alot to borrow/payback on 120-150k a year.
Pre-law? Do us all a favor....and don't.
Philosopy/Marketing double major? Best to have a family business to go into. Trust fund can be helpful as well.
-examples:
wanna be an engineer? Better look at electrical/computer track. Civil/structural=lower pay/slower growth.
Pre-med? Better plan to specialize. Gp/peds....7 years is alot to borrow/payback on 120-150k a year.
Pre-law? Do us all a favor....and don't.
Philosopy/Marketing double major? Best to have a family business to go into. Trust fund can be helpful as well.
Just imagine how much money we'd be making or how skilled we'd all be if we had GYERO to consult as a Sr. in High School.
Depressing to think about. Life isn't fair, But at least you young parents have this resource now.
Depressing to think about. Life isn't fair, But at least you young parents have this resource now.
Points deducted for not calling it Barca.
Of course I’m taking my kid to visit some ACC schools for college choices, but kinda want him to transfer in after 2-3 years at a local inexpensive school... but hey, it’s only money.
Do the states really check up on each other? You can be registered in multiple states provided you actually set up residency, but that would be a lot of work.
If you love what you do, then you never work a day in your life. Keep that in mind.
Get pumped.
-state school wasnt 25k a year when you were a sr in HS. Point being...costs have risen whilst value has decreased. Costs have gone up 3-4x minimum in that time period...avg starting income has not risen at the same trajectory.
UK is now right around $32k annually in state. And UK is notorious for generally not giving away much in scholarship money to in state students.
BUT , hey, at least they all get tempur pedic beds, have a Starbucks on every corner and can’t walk 5 feet without charging stations. Someone has to pay for it.
BUT , hey, at least they all get tempur pedic beds, have a Starbucks on every corner and can’t walk 5 feet without charging stations. Someone has to pay for it.
Dismantling systemic racism isn’t cheap.
Can just imagine how pissed off Dad would be NOW seeing my ****** first semester grades.
If you're good at math college is a no-brainer. If you suck at math most of the degrees you can get are going to be tough to do anything with because everyone will be getting them and the jobs are getting less and less prevelant. The few exceptions are in the medical field.
That's literally insane.
It's what, around $13K for tuition and $19K for room and board. It seems like the room and board are a little excessive.
$3,000 my first year, 1989-90. Insanity.
Don’t recall my tuition at U of L when I began in 1982. But I know i was able to pay it directly to them in installments each semester with my part time job.
How are future generations supposed to go into massive debt buying houses they can't afford if they're already in massive debt buying an education they can't afford?
State school is an AMAZING investment.
Just ask CMD. He's about to drop $300,000 on a couple of Gatton degrees.
Just ask CMD. He's about to drop $300,000 on a couple of Gatton degrees.
Ugh, So how are those elections going ? Everyone's voting choice winning ? College / trade talk is >>>>>>>>>
Old and grown up.
Old and grown up.
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