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Can someone just effing copy/paste the whole Vecenie article, please?
I'll say it again. It's pretty cot dam remarkable we won the SEC by 3 games with a point guard who was absolute trash for 2/3 of the season and quit on the team in the end. Saying that given Hagans status at the end it was probably a good thing the post season got cancelled. That Florida game was a doozy to end it on.
* All the rumored nicknames for the Washington football team are as milquetoast as the top button guy in Lexington. But if you're rebooting, marcus follow along with every other pro team in town and get a red, white and blue paint job. Kinda goes with territory.
* Flipped on Squawk Box this morning and see Moderna is one last human trial away from fast-tracking a vaccine. Stock price soaring. Medical experts touting this as the potential breakthrough we need and noting if course holds, they should have up to a billion doses available by January. Finally, some positive news on the covid front. Weird how Twitter is not echoing that
*For you day traders, Pfizer, J&J or Astrazeneca could be a good pick up as they haven't received the bounce and are likely close behind.
* Tesla had some bangers before becoming a county fair staple -- 'Little Suzi', 'What You Give', 'Mama's Fool'.
* If you're still hesitant to get into a gym and looking for something to rejuvenate your routine, snag TRX bands. Completely different way to tax the body and helps push through some plateaus.
* Road around in a Volvo suv recently and it was surprisingly sharp. Would be high on my list if I was hauling precious cargo.
* Any day now, baseball.
* Flipped on Squawk Box this morning and see Moderna is one last human trial away from fast-tracking a vaccine. Stock price soaring. Medical experts touting this as the potential breakthrough we need and noting if course holds, they should have up to a billion doses available by January. Finally, some positive news on the covid front. Weird how Twitter is not echoing that
*For you day traders, Pfizer, J&J or Astrazeneca could be a good pick up as they haven't received the bounce and are likely close behind.
* Tesla had some bangers before becoming a county fair staple -- 'Little Suzi', 'What You Give', 'Mama's Fool'.
* If you're still hesitant to get into a gym and looking for something to rejuvenate your routine, snag TRX bands. Completely different way to tax the body and helps push through some plateaus.
* Road around in a Volvo suv recently and it was surprisingly sharp. Would be high on my list if I was hauling precious cargo.
* Any day now, baseball.
I wouldn’t put it past Hagans to pull a heater out of his *** for 6-9 games and redeem himself. Plus, I don’t think we saw the best of Maxey who was made for March. I liked my team despite our flaws.
Yeah, but the Selection Committee totally F’d us, just like every year.
Care if I use this? TIA.
Part 1
TYRESE MAXEY
Relevant Measurements: Guard, 6-3, 200 pounds, 19 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 14.0 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 3.2 APG, 42.7 FG%, 29.2 3P%, 83.3 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 16.3 PER, 53.1 TS%, 47.4 eFG%, 18.7 AST%, 12.1 DEFREB%, 14.1 TO%, 22.7 USG%, 1.3 BLK%, 1.5 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 14; Mock Draft: No. 17
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I don’t really care for Kentucky’s guys. I’m not as high on Maxey as some people are. He really knows how to score. He’s got good touch on his in-between game with pull-ups and floaters. A lot of it is going to be dependent on his shooting. I actually think he’s a better shooter than his numbers say. I’ve seen him really shoot the ball well at lower levels in stretches. He’s committed to working at it and becoming a more consistent shooter. I don’t see him as a lottery pick, I see him as a second unit scorer that I would draft in the 20s. Maybe this is a loose comparison, but a Lou Williams sort of thing where a team tries to find some offense for a stretch. I don’t know, maybe I’m not giving him enough credit.”
Coach Two: “I think he’s overrated. One of the more overrated guys in the draft. Personally, I don’t think he can shoot. I’d also question his basketball IQ. I think he’s more of a one dimensional player. It’s probably just a product of being brought up through AAU. He’s always been a prolific scorer with the ball in his hands, I just think the NBA is way more than that. And I don’t think think it’s a consistent jump shot. He’s a great athlete. Right-hand dominant more than anything in my opinion. But I didn’t fear him. He wasn’t the guy I feared.”
Coach Three: “I really, really like him. Tough kid. Got a lot of balls. Talks a lot of ****. He hit numerous enormous shots for them. I don’t know if he’s a lottery guy, but he’s a mid-to-late first-round pick who should have a good NBA career. I thought he was a good defender. I’m surprised his steal numbers weren’t as high, but he rebounds for a guard.”
Coach Four: “I like him. Obviously the shooting standpoint is where his most room for growth is. But as far as pop with the ball, ability to play downhill through contact, I definitely think you see more 2-guards that are a similar mold to him. Donovan Mitchell comes right to mind. Not necessarily a point guard, but you want multiple guys who can run pick and roll and break down a defense. I think he can do that while not necessarily being an exclusive point guard. I like him. Impressed with his toughness and competitiveness. He’ll be able to drive the ball, generate paint touches, play downhill through contact. I’m really high on him.
“And I’ll say this. His pop definitely isn’t Mitchell, but it’s not below-average either. There are plays at the rim where he was strong. With their spacing, they weren’t a high 3-point shooting team. So he probably dealt with more bodies at the rim. But I just know I saw him quite a few times take on guys and finish plays at the rim.”
Coach Five: “I like Maxey. I think he kind of lost his shot this season. I thought he was a really good shooter in high school. I remember a guy on ESPN said he was the best shooter in America after his first game in college, and I think he might have finished in the 30s or even the 20s (shooting from 3). He’s better than that. But it’s because their offense is so dribble-drive centric, it’s just ‘get to the rim, get to the rim, get to the rim.’ Even in interviews, Cal is saying they shoot too many 3s. But he’s a better shooter than what he was. And adversely, he became a better driver than what he was in high school. Because Kentucky wants to dribble and drive, he started to get downhill and started to show that he can get to the rim.”
Coach Six: “Our favorite of those three guards. Good shooter, not elite. Not a Brad Beal or anything, but a notch below them. Kind of small for an off-ball guard. But really respected his finishing package. Respected his floaters and ability to make a read on when to get to each finish. Good at getting downhill. Talented. I see the value in him. If you could get him not in the lottery, he could be a nice little scoring piece for you. We like him. I wouldn’t say he’s an elite, top-10 guy. But we really like him.
“The ceiling of him as a shooter and the size are the drawbacks. I would also add from an intel standpoint, I just thought that his interactions with people were first class. He seems like the right stuff. The type of guy that didn’t have any ******** to him. He just seemed like a good, solid, high-character guy. That stuff matters when it can tip one way or another. Or if the first situation doesn’t work out for a variety of reasons: Good guys, they’re going to persevere.”
Coach Seven: “Good. He’s the best one of them. I love his scoring ability. I love his downhill ability. Step-ups, angles in ball screens. I like his shooting ability. I think he can improve with some better shot selection. But he has a variety of ways to score, which I love. His floater is really good. His touch around the rim. His finishing off the glass, with spins, and he finishes in transition. He’s fearless in the paint. I like that. He has a scoring mentality.
“He can maybe play the 1 in a pinch. I wouldn’t want him as my 1, but if he needs to. He’s the definition of a combo. He’s a little too little to be a 2. He’s kind of slight, too. I think he needs to put a little weight on. I like his mentality, I like his fearlessness offensively. He hits shots off the move. They run that floppy stuff and he comes off those screens aggressive and ready to go. I like him a lot. But I don’t love him. He’s one of those like, 22, 23, 24, around that range. He can score, he can get a bucket off the bench, maybe be Lou Williams. Something like that. Be productive, maybe start for a bad team, hopefully have a long career.”
Part 2
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IMMANUEL QUICKLEY
Relevant Measurements: Guard, 6-3, 190 pounds, 21 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 16.1 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 1.9 APG, 0.9 SPG, 41.7 FG%, 42.8 3P%, 92.3 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 20.4 PER, 59.5 TS%, 51.1 eFG%, 11.4 AST%, 11.9 DEFREB%, 10.6 TO%, 23.4 USG%, 0.5 BLK%, 1.6 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 49; Mock Draft: No. 43
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I’m not a huge Quickley guy. When he was playing USA basketball, everyone was like, ‘Oh my god, look at the reads this guy makes as a passer, and look at how big he is, he’s a big point guard.’ I was always pretty underwhelmed by him because I just didn’t see a lot of pop. He’s never had a lot of athletic pop or creativity to his offensive game. So coming into Kentucky, I figured I must be missing something. But then he didn’t play a ton in Year 1, and then in Year 2, he really hurt teams.
“I think he can really shoot. That’s legitimate. Even as a freshman, he was much more capable than his numbers suggested. Then this year, he shot it better. I don’t think of him at all as a point guard, so now he’s a 6-foot-2-inch shooting guard without a whole lot of **** to his game. I thought he did a good job defensively; he’s probably better on that end than people realize. But I think he’s right on the fringe.”
Coach Two: “He’s a shotmaker, man. I don’t think he’s an NBA player, but damn is he a hell of a college player. Makes key shots, has the ability to defend. I don’t think he has it on a string, just with his overall handle. But great college player. In my opinion, he will be a good overseas player.”
Coach Three: “Between he and Maxey, they ran a little together. But I think Quickley was as good a shooter as there was in the league this year. Petty from Alabama and him. He took a huge leap between this year and his sophomore year. He’s going to be really good.”
Coach Four: “Not high on him. Thought he had a great college season, but as far as NBA potential, I don’t see it. He can make shots, and you have to apply a certain level of value to that. But you worry about him from a size standpoint, from an athleticism standpoint. Who does he guard at that level? I don’t see him as a high-level guy.”
Coach Five: “Quickley, I don’t believe in. Despite all of his success this year and SEC player of the year, I just don’t believe in it. I think he benefitted from poor officiating in the way he got fouled and sent to the line. A guy that is very similar is Glen Rice Jr. Went to Georgia Tech, was with the Wizards. Very similar. Got a lot of fouls in college. Got a lot of fouls in Summer League. Then got to the League, and it didn’t work. He can shoot the ball when he’s open. But I don’t believe in him as an NBA player.”
Coach Six: “We liked him. Early to mid-second. Maybe a Devonte Graham, can he be that kind of guy? The guy thought he was a point guard, came in, kind of battled through Kentucky adversity in terms of role. He battled through that. Then worked his way into becoming Kentucky’s best player and making a ton of big plays for them. You look at that, the kid’s ability to persevere, you’d be more likely to bet on that. He can make shots. Played some point, comes off of some ball screens. Seems like he has all of that in him. And again, shot a high percentage from 3, makes all of his free throws. We really liked him. We would endorse investment in him at the right level.
“They had a really weird team. We played them really tough, but I’ll be the first to admit that I had a hard time trying to decide which one of the guards I was most worried about in terms of which one could hurt us the most. Maxey is young. He’d make a bad choice. Quickley isn’t creating for others. Hagans is a whole different deal, and then the bigs are just ‘eh.’ But then you look up and they’re absolutely the best team in our league. I don’t know. It just feels like there isn’t a far and away, no doubt John Wall guy. They didn’t have that at all.”
Coach Seven: “I was really impressed with his background. Went through adversity at Kentucky. They recruited him as a point guard. Then they get Hagans and he has to move to the 2 and has to stay another year. Quickley can really shoot it. He plays hard. Coming off of screens, he has a nice little trigger. Setting ball screens for him isn’t the first thing I’d do, but I like his demeanor. I like his poise. He don’t get shook. He’s going to shoot the ball with confidence. He’s going to run, he’s going to play hard. I like him. Maybe a second round pick, I’d look at him in that range.”
IMMANUEL QUICKLEY
Relevant Measurements: Guard, 6-3, 190 pounds, 21 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 16.1 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 1.9 APG, 0.9 SPG, 41.7 FG%, 42.8 3P%, 92.3 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 20.4 PER, 59.5 TS%, 51.1 eFG%, 11.4 AST%, 11.9 DEFREB%, 10.6 TO%, 23.4 USG%, 0.5 BLK%, 1.6 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 49; Mock Draft: No. 43
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I’m not a huge Quickley guy. When he was playing USA basketball, everyone was like, ‘Oh my god, look at the reads this guy makes as a passer, and look at how big he is, he’s a big point guard.’ I was always pretty underwhelmed by him because I just didn’t see a lot of pop. He’s never had a lot of athletic pop or creativity to his offensive game. So coming into Kentucky, I figured I must be missing something. But then he didn’t play a ton in Year 1, and then in Year 2, he really hurt teams.
“I think he can really shoot. That’s legitimate. Even as a freshman, he was much more capable than his numbers suggested. Then this year, he shot it better. I don’t think of him at all as a point guard, so now he’s a 6-foot-2-inch shooting guard without a whole lot of **** to his game. I thought he did a good job defensively; he’s probably better on that end than people realize. But I think he’s right on the fringe.”
Coach Two: “He’s a shotmaker, man. I don’t think he’s an NBA player, but damn is he a hell of a college player. Makes key shots, has the ability to defend. I don’t think he has it on a string, just with his overall handle. But great college player. In my opinion, he will be a good overseas player.”
Coach Three: “Between he and Maxey, they ran a little together. But I think Quickley was as good a shooter as there was in the league this year. Petty from Alabama and him. He took a huge leap between this year and his sophomore year. He’s going to be really good.”
Coach Four: “Not high on him. Thought he had a great college season, but as far as NBA potential, I don’t see it. He can make shots, and you have to apply a certain level of value to that. But you worry about him from a size standpoint, from an athleticism standpoint. Who does he guard at that level? I don’t see him as a high-level guy.”
Coach Five: “Quickley, I don’t believe in. Despite all of his success this year and SEC player of the year, I just don’t believe in it. I think he benefitted from poor officiating in the way he got fouled and sent to the line. A guy that is very similar is Glen Rice Jr. Went to Georgia Tech, was with the Wizards. Very similar. Got a lot of fouls in college. Got a lot of fouls in Summer League. Then got to the League, and it didn’t work. He can shoot the ball when he’s open. But I don’t believe in him as an NBA player.”
Coach Six: “We liked him. Early to mid-second. Maybe a Devonte Graham, can he be that kind of guy? The guy thought he was a point guard, came in, kind of battled through Kentucky adversity in terms of role. He battled through that. Then worked his way into becoming Kentucky’s best player and making a ton of big plays for them. You look at that, the kid’s ability to persevere, you’d be more likely to bet on that. He can make shots. Played some point, comes off of some ball screens. Seems like he has all of that in him. And again, shot a high percentage from 3, makes all of his free throws. We really liked him. We would endorse investment in him at the right level.
“They had a really weird team. We played them really tough, but I’ll be the first to admit that I had a hard time trying to decide which one of the guards I was most worried about in terms of which one could hurt us the most. Maxey is young. He’d make a bad choice. Quickley isn’t creating for others. Hagans is a whole different deal, and then the bigs are just ‘eh.’ But then you look up and they’re absolutely the best team in our league. I don’t know. It just feels like there isn’t a far and away, no doubt John Wall guy. They didn’t have that at all.”
Coach Seven: “I was really impressed with his background. Went through adversity at Kentucky. They recruited him as a point guard. Then they get Hagans and he has to move to the 2 and has to stay another year. Quickley can really shoot it. He plays hard. Coming off of screens, he has a nice little trigger. Setting ball screens for him isn’t the first thing I’d do, but I like his demeanor. I like his poise. He don’t get shook. He’s going to shoot the ball with confidence. He’s going to run, he’s going to play hard. I like him. Maybe a second round pick, I’d look at him in that range.”
-Honda CRV, Chad.
-Hardy, Clark, Banchero, Huntley-Hatfield. Maybe a big if Jackson or Keion leave early.
-Late to the game, but "Narcos", and specifically Walker Moura's performance as Pablo Escobar, was mesmerizing. "Narcos: Mexico" is a bit slower out of the gate, but no less solid.
-Good list of sportswriter gimmicks, Chad. I'd add oral histories to that list. There was even an oral history on The Athletic ABOUT oral histories, specifically about Terry Pluto's epic book about the ABA, "Loose Balls."
(don't, Boat. Just don't.)
-Has there been a single basketball/football commitment post on social media since 2016 that hasn't included either "With that being said" or "Having said that"?
-Frisbee golf course at the same park where my daughter's cross country team practices. Nice way to pass the time while waiting for her to finish. Free to play and some nice scenery along the way. Amazing how far the "pros" can send that thing.
-Hardy, Clark, Banchero, Huntley-Hatfield. Maybe a big if Jackson or Keion leave early.
-Late to the game, but "Narcos", and specifically Walker Moura's performance as Pablo Escobar, was mesmerizing. "Narcos: Mexico" is a bit slower out of the gate, but no less solid.
-Good list of sportswriter gimmicks, Chad. I'd add oral histories to that list. There was even an oral history on The Athletic ABOUT oral histories, specifically about Terry Pluto's epic book about the ABA, "Loose Balls."
(don't, Boat. Just don't.)
-Has there been a single basketball/football commitment post on social media since 2016 that hasn't included either "With that being said" or "Having said that"?
-Frisbee golf course at the same park where my daughter's cross country team practices. Nice way to pass the time while waiting for her to finish. Free to play and some nice scenery along the way. Amazing how far the "pros" can send that thing.
Within 2-months the Walmart mask requirement will lead to a shooting. Stone cold lock.
Fine with Carolina being forced to change names.
Ashton did more to ruin college basketball for me than COVID.
The new Bronco is wack.
Fine with Carolina being forced to change names.
Ashton did more to ruin college basketball for me than COVID.
The new Bronco is wack.
Part 3
NICK RICHARDS
Relevant Measurements: Center, 7-0, 240 pounds, 22 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 14.0 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 0.2 APG, 2.1 BPG, 64.2 FG%, — 3P%, 75.2 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 25.8 PER, 67.4 TS%, 64.2 eFG%, 1.7 AST%, 18.6 DEFREB%, 13.2 TO%, 20.7 USG%, 8.0 BLK%, 0.2 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 66; Mock Draft: No. 60
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I actually like Nick Richards. I think he gets a bad rap because he was supposed to be really good early coming in. The fact that it’s taken him longer. But man, Nick Richards competes. He tries to defend the rim. He has gotten better touch. I don’t know that I think he’s ever going to be a particularly good (NBA) player, but he’s enormous and he has better intentions than people think.
“It feels like people think of him as this ****-around kid that bounced around to every AAU team and had all these different handlers and wondered what he was all about. But I think in his time at Kentucky he’s really grown up and almost accepts that he’s not as good as everyone thought he was, but that he can provide some value as a reserve center. He makes free throws. To me, he’s a guy in the 50s that maybe makes a team.”
Coach Two: “He played really well inside. Will that translate to the next level inside? Guys will be bigger than him. But I think he found a niche at the collegiate level to have a lot of success. Finished everything around the rim. And it was on both sides of the floor. He was an impact player on both ends at the collegiate level. I don’t know if the skill level on the jumper goes past 17 feet. But the mental approach he had? Boy.
“That’s one thing I want to give that entire team credit for. The mental approach those guys had, their preparation before the game. The way they go about it is unique. Every one of them had their own routine. Every one of them is dialed in. I give them credit. It was no ********. No sitting down. They had legit, professional approach to the game.”
Coach Three: “He got a lot better this year. He was able to consistently knock down 15-foot jumpers. He made big strides throughout the year. Rebounds the ball well. The thing I worry about with him is who is he going to be able to guard at the next level? He was so foul-prone when he had to guard someone in our league.”
Coach Four: “I like him. Willie Cauley-Stein comes to mind. That mold of player. Offensively, some limitations. As a rim-roll threat, lob guy, could have some success in a pick-and-roll scheme with the right guards around him. Doesn’t really have an offensive identity outside of that. In a switch-heavy league, you wonder what he does against switches. But if you’re looking for a traditional rim-runner, lob threat, he can definitely do that.
He can shoot. He made midrange shots. That’s not going to get NBA teams excited, but that does show there is something there to work with as far as stretching out his range. And if you’re going to put him in a drop coverage scheme on defense, handling college guards is obviously much different than handling NBA level athletes. He still needs to get a bit stronger and fill out a bit more until he can be an elite drop guy.”
Coach Five: “He got a lot better. I think he’s a flopper. I don’t think he’s very tough. Our guys took it to him and took his heart out of his chest. He’s long, he finishes around the rim, he’s a good shot-blocker. He rebounds it.”
Coach Six: “Not a draftable guy. Not explosive enough to be a rim-runner. Close, but not quite there. He played great against us. He delivered. He’s definitely worth it if you’re a team that’s late second, undrafted. Sure. He could get there as a vertical rim runner. He’s also just a little slow for that, though. If the gold standard is DeAndre Jordan in his prime, he’s multiple notches below that with the bounce. He can score down there, he can work a little bit in the post. Sometimes he gets worked off of his position due to leg strength.
“He’s close to taking a chance on, but not there. He’s efficient when he gets it in a place he can do something with it. From 50 to 70 that you’re investing in him long-term, I get it. It makes sense to me. But not a first rounder because you just don’t know. The scheme with ball screens with him will really need to be considered.”
Coach Seven: “Richards killed us. He dominated us. They put it in the post, and he had some nice moves and he scored. He did what he was supposed to do. He’s big. I’ll never forget warming up for Rupp the first time, and I’m just looking at him thinking ‘this mother ****** is BIG.’ But he’s almost too big. He doesn’t move well. He doesn’t move great for a guy that needs to. If he moved like Willie Cauley-Stein, just a little bit more agile, I’d like him a little bit.
“Since he’s slow, who is he going to guard in pick-and-rolls? Can’t switch. I’m a little worried with him. I’m not posting him at all in the NBA. He has a decent stroke from 15 feet. He’s gotta play drop coverage, hopefully he does a good job in his stance. But a lot of the best guys in the NBA have great technique in his drops. I get it. Develop shooting, rebound the ball, run the floor, set good screens. I liked him in college. He was dominant. There are situations where he could be intriguing in the NBA.”
Relevant Measurements: Center, 7-0, 240 pounds, 22 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 14.0 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 0.2 APG, 2.1 BPG, 64.2 FG%, — 3P%, 75.2 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 25.8 PER, 67.4 TS%, 64.2 eFG%, 1.7 AST%, 18.6 DEFREB%, 13.2 TO%, 20.7 USG%, 8.0 BLK%, 0.2 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 66; Mock Draft: No. 60
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I actually like Nick Richards. I think he gets a bad rap because he was supposed to be really good early coming in. The fact that it’s taken him longer. But man, Nick Richards competes. He tries to defend the rim. He has gotten better touch. I don’t know that I think he’s ever going to be a particularly good (NBA) player, but he’s enormous and he has better intentions than people think.
“It feels like people think of him as this ****-around kid that bounced around to every AAU team and had all these different handlers and wondered what he was all about. But I think in his time at Kentucky he’s really grown up and almost accepts that he’s not as good as everyone thought he was, but that he can provide some value as a reserve center. He makes free throws. To me, he’s a guy in the 50s that maybe makes a team.”
Coach Two: “He played really well inside. Will that translate to the next level inside? Guys will be bigger than him. But I think he found a niche at the collegiate level to have a lot of success. Finished everything around the rim. And it was on both sides of the floor. He was an impact player on both ends at the collegiate level. I don’t know if the skill level on the jumper goes past 17 feet. But the mental approach he had? Boy.
“That’s one thing I want to give that entire team credit for. The mental approach those guys had, their preparation before the game. The way they go about it is unique. Every one of them had their own routine. Every one of them is dialed in. I give them credit. It was no ********. No sitting down. They had legit, professional approach to the game.”
Coach Three: “He got a lot better this year. He was able to consistently knock down 15-foot jumpers. He made big strides throughout the year. Rebounds the ball well. The thing I worry about with him is who is he going to be able to guard at the next level? He was so foul-prone when he had to guard someone in our league.”
Coach Four: “I like him. Willie Cauley-Stein comes to mind. That mold of player. Offensively, some limitations. As a rim-roll threat, lob guy, could have some success in a pick-and-roll scheme with the right guards around him. Doesn’t really have an offensive identity outside of that. In a switch-heavy league, you wonder what he does against switches. But if you’re looking for a traditional rim-runner, lob threat, he can definitely do that.
He can shoot. He made midrange shots. That’s not going to get NBA teams excited, but that does show there is something there to work with as far as stretching out his range. And if you’re going to put him in a drop coverage scheme on defense, handling college guards is obviously much different than handling NBA level athletes. He still needs to get a bit stronger and fill out a bit more until he can be an elite drop guy.”
Coach Five: “He got a lot better. I think he’s a flopper. I don’t think he’s very tough. Our guys took it to him and took his heart out of his chest. He’s long, he finishes around the rim, he’s a good shot-blocker. He rebounds it.”
Coach Six: “Not a draftable guy. Not explosive enough to be a rim-runner. Close, but not quite there. He played great against us. He delivered. He’s definitely worth it if you’re a team that’s late second, undrafted. Sure. He could get there as a vertical rim runner. He’s also just a little slow for that, though. If the gold standard is DeAndre Jordan in his prime, he’s multiple notches below that with the bounce. He can score down there, he can work a little bit in the post. Sometimes he gets worked off of his position due to leg strength.
“He’s close to taking a chance on, but not there. He’s efficient when he gets it in a place he can do something with it. From 50 to 70 that you’re investing in him long-term, I get it. It makes sense to me. But not a first rounder because you just don’t know. The scheme with ball screens with him will really need to be considered.”
Coach Seven: “Richards killed us. He dominated us. They put it in the post, and he had some nice moves and he scored. He did what he was supposed to do. He’s big. I’ll never forget warming up for Rupp the first time, and I’m just looking at him thinking ‘this mother ****** is BIG.’ But he’s almost too big. He doesn’t move well. He doesn’t move great for a guy that needs to. If he moved like Willie Cauley-Stein, just a little bit more agile, I’d like him a little bit.
“Since he’s slow, who is he going to guard in pick-and-rolls? Can’t switch. I’m a little worried with him. I’m not posting him at all in the NBA. He has a decent stroke from 15 feet. He’s gotta play drop coverage, hopefully he does a good job in his stance. But a lot of the best guys in the NBA have great technique in his drops. I get it. Develop shooting, rebound the ball, run the floor, set good screens. I liked him in college. He was dominant. There are situations where he could be intriguing in the NBA.”
Part 4
ASHTON HAGANS
Relevant Measurements: Guard, 6-3, 200 pounds, 21 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 11.5 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 6.4 APG, 1.9 SPG, 40.4 FG%, 25.8 3P%, 81.0 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 17.3 PER, 51.9 TS%, 43.4 eFG%, 36.4 AST%, 11.8 DEFREB%, 23.7 TO%, 22.4 USG%, 0.7 BLK%, 3.4 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 75; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I think he’s a liability on offense. I don’t think he’ll ever make shots with any sort of consistency. I don’t think he plays as big and athletic at the rim as he should. I wish he could use that in a better way. He has burst, and some physicality, and strength to him. I just never really looked at him as a dynamic finisher. And if you’re not going to be able to shoot, and guys are just going to go under pick-and-rolls on you all the time, beating them to their spot and getting to the rim is crucial. I just never really saw that from him. I don’t see how he plays on offense. I don’t think he has a lot of nuance to how he plays the position.
“I think he can be exceptional defensively. He maybe got a little too much credit in his freshman year for steals. His steals, I didn’t think he was actually a good defender, I just thought he stole the ball a lot. But in Year Two, he became more of a real-life defensive player. To me, he’s like last couple picks guy. Not a lot of defensive-minded point guards make it. And I’m not sure he has the makeup to really grind it out and be Kevin Ollie. I think he wants to play more of an exciting, flashy game. There is going to be a disconnect. He looks to me like a G League guy.”
Coach Two: “Can’t shoot. Took over the game late with his defense. He’s an elite defender. Probably one of the top 10 or so defenders in the country, on ball. But I question his ability to make shots. I don’t know if that translates. I don’t know if he can develop that skill. But he had one thing he did that was elite, and that was defend on ball.”
Coach Three: “I don’t really see it for him. I think he’s just a good all-around player. He’s one of those guys that plays in the G League for a couple years then goes overseas. It’s tough, but I feel like he didn’t get much better from his freshman to his sophomore year. He might be what he is as a player.”
Coach Four: “His year was really interesting. I went back and forth on him two or three times depending on what night you watched him. Has some pluses defensively. Obviously, there is some risk-reward to his defense. Obviously a high steal guy, and there is some risk to factor in there. But I love his competitiveness and his ability to crawl into guys and make them uncomfortable. Offensively, his ceiling looks like if it comes along he could be a defense-first backup point guard, but obviously offensively limited in his ability to really run a team there.
“It’s hard to be a defense-first point guard at that level. You know how it is. The whole league is scoring 110 points per 100. If you’re not a great offensive player and your team is operating at about 102 to 104, it’s not good enough. Obviously though, everyone is looking for two-way guys.”
Coach Five: “He’s a good defender, he’s athletic and quick on defense. I don’t think he’s that good, though. He didn’t have a big impact. He is a good defender, though. He made an impact on the defensive end of the floor. Driver, driver, driver. We started treating him like Rajon Rondo, backing way off of him and clogging the paint up, and he wouldn’t dare shoot a 3. He wouldn’t dare. It got to the point where Cal had to take him out.”
Coach Six: “Our staff was split. I think I respect more of the stuff he does toughness wise than some of our staff. Others on staff would be more in the camp of ‘can’t shoot, kind of fake hustle on the defense side.’ Is he a really good defender, or is he putting his teammates out of position? We were split potential-wise. When we played them, we were just like ‘okay, we’re not guarding him.’ They’d run what they call their ‘circle’ set, Maxey and Quickley are coming off of pindowns, they’re exchanging and coming out and they’re trying to dump down to the bigs. Our instruction to our lead guard was just to get down in the paint and clog it all up. We had success with that.
“Who is going to guard him at the next level? Especially initially. I think he does some tough things. I talked to some people who recruited him who swore this was the kind of kid that would lead you to a national title. He’s just made that way. But like, I don’t know. We’re definitely split on him.”
Coach Seven: “Don’t even get me started on Hagans. I think he’s trash (as a player). I just don’t think he’s very good. I think he thinks he’s a lot better than what he is. Defensively, everyone talks about him. And on film, he for sure disrupts. He has quick hands, he’s strong, he fights through dribble hand-offs, he puts a body on you. But like, it’s kind of overstated. I think he’s a selfish defender. He wants deflections and steals. And that has nothing to do with being a good defensive player. I think he’s a selfish defensive player.
“And offensively, he’s limited. I didn’t see that much athleticism and speed. We were begging him to shoot. I don’t know if he’s going to make it. What does he do? What does he do well? He got in trouble with turnovers this year. He was turning that thing over like crazy. He did not scare me at all. Preparing for them, he was the least of my worries. I think Saben Lee at Vanderbilt is way better than Ashton Hagans.”
Relevant Measurements: Guard, 6-3, 200 pounds, 21 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 11.5 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 6.4 APG, 1.9 SPG, 40.4 FG%, 25.8 3P%, 81.0 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 17.3 PER, 51.9 TS%, 43.4 eFG%, 36.4 AST%, 11.8 DEFREB%, 23.7 TO%, 22.4 USG%, 0.7 BLK%, 3.4 STL%
Big Board Rank: No. 75; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I think he’s a liability on offense. I don’t think he’ll ever make shots with any sort of consistency. I don’t think he plays as big and athletic at the rim as he should. I wish he could use that in a better way. He has burst, and some physicality, and strength to him. I just never really looked at him as a dynamic finisher. And if you’re not going to be able to shoot, and guys are just going to go under pick-and-rolls on you all the time, beating them to their spot and getting to the rim is crucial. I just never really saw that from him. I don’t see how he plays on offense. I don’t think he has a lot of nuance to how he plays the position.
“I think he can be exceptional defensively. He maybe got a little too much credit in his freshman year for steals. His steals, I didn’t think he was actually a good defender, I just thought he stole the ball a lot. But in Year Two, he became more of a real-life defensive player. To me, he’s like last couple picks guy. Not a lot of defensive-minded point guards make it. And I’m not sure he has the makeup to really grind it out and be Kevin Ollie. I think he wants to play more of an exciting, flashy game. There is going to be a disconnect. He looks to me like a G League guy.”
Coach Two: “Can’t shoot. Took over the game late with his defense. He’s an elite defender. Probably one of the top 10 or so defenders in the country, on ball. But I question his ability to make shots. I don’t know if that translates. I don’t know if he can develop that skill. But he had one thing he did that was elite, and that was defend on ball.”
Coach Three: “I don’t really see it for him. I think he’s just a good all-around player. He’s one of those guys that plays in the G League for a couple years then goes overseas. It’s tough, but I feel like he didn’t get much better from his freshman to his sophomore year. He might be what he is as a player.”
Coach Four: “His year was really interesting. I went back and forth on him two or three times depending on what night you watched him. Has some pluses defensively. Obviously, there is some risk-reward to his defense. Obviously a high steal guy, and there is some risk to factor in there. But I love his competitiveness and his ability to crawl into guys and make them uncomfortable. Offensively, his ceiling looks like if it comes along he could be a defense-first backup point guard, but obviously offensively limited in his ability to really run a team there.
“It’s hard to be a defense-first point guard at that level. You know how it is. The whole league is scoring 110 points per 100. If you’re not a great offensive player and your team is operating at about 102 to 104, it’s not good enough. Obviously though, everyone is looking for two-way guys.”
Coach Five: “He’s a good defender, he’s athletic and quick on defense. I don’t think he’s that good, though. He didn’t have a big impact. He is a good defender, though. He made an impact on the defensive end of the floor. Driver, driver, driver. We started treating him like Rajon Rondo, backing way off of him and clogging the paint up, and he wouldn’t dare shoot a 3. He wouldn’t dare. It got to the point where Cal had to take him out.”
Coach Six: “Our staff was split. I think I respect more of the stuff he does toughness wise than some of our staff. Others on staff would be more in the camp of ‘can’t shoot, kind of fake hustle on the defense side.’ Is he a really good defender, or is he putting his teammates out of position? We were split potential-wise. When we played them, we were just like ‘okay, we’re not guarding him.’ They’d run what they call their ‘circle’ set, Maxey and Quickley are coming off of pindowns, they’re exchanging and coming out and they’re trying to dump down to the bigs. Our instruction to our lead guard was just to get down in the paint and clog it all up. We had success with that.
“Who is going to guard him at the next level? Especially initially. I think he does some tough things. I talked to some people who recruited him who swore this was the kind of kid that would lead you to a national title. He’s just made that way. But like, I don’t know. We’re definitely split on him.”
Coach Seven: “Don’t even get me started on Hagans. I think he’s trash (as a player). I just don’t think he’s very good. I think he thinks he’s a lot better than what he is. Defensively, everyone talks about him. And on film, he for sure disrupts. He has quick hands, he’s strong, he fights through dribble hand-offs, he puts a body on you. But like, it’s kind of overstated. I think he’s a selfish defender. He wants deflections and steals. And that has nothing to do with being a good defensive player. I think he’s a selfish defensive player.
“And offensively, he’s limited. I didn’t see that much athleticism and speed. We were begging him to shoot. I don’t know if he’s going to make it. What does he do? What does he do well? He got in trouble with turnovers this year. He was turning that thing over like crazy. He did not scare me at all. Preparing for them, he was the least of my worries. I think Saben Lee at Vanderbilt is way better than Ashton Hagans.”
Part 5
E.J. MONTGOMERY
Relevant Measurements: Center, 6-10, 230 pounds, 20 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 6.1 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 0.6 APG, 1.1 BPG, 51.8 FG%, 16.7 3P%, 66.7 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 14.1 PER, 54.5 TS%, 52.2 eFG%, 4.8 AST%, 16.2 DEFREB%, 15.6 TO%, 14.1 USG%, 5.1 BLK%, 1.0 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “Man, I don’t know. Hard guy to figure out. Can do some tantalizing things. Will make a 17-footer. Baselines, and fall-away. Decent touch with his left hand hook. Can impact on the offensive glass when properly motivated. Capable lob finisher although not particularly bouncy. Shows some switch ability at times. Just a really soft kid. Doesn’t really have a position. Longer than he is athletic. Doesn’t shoot 3s. Doesn’t go off the bounce at all. Actually thought he saw some things as a passer, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
“Appears to lack motivation. No edge. Doesn’t defensive rebound really, decent rim protector. Not much game. You know how some guys can show a glimmer of skill or versatility but still not be any good?? That’s E.J.”
Coach Two: “I don’t see it at all. I think he’s soft. He floats on the perimeter. High skill level, but all fool’s gold. Someone is giving him bad advice.”
Coach Three: “Yeah, I mean, the thing with him is that if you’re not overly high on Nick Richards, how can you even consider EJ Montgomery? If he was at Georgia, he might average 10 and 7? He’s a four-year SEC player that is a two-or-three year starter. That’s not an NBA guy.”
Coach Four: “Pass. We didn’t think he was very good. I have no other thoughts than ‘not good enough.’ We weren’t high on him. He couldn’t shoot. We felt really good when he was on the floor. I don’t know, I hate to say that about a guy. I know he’s not a terrible player, but we weren’t that into him.”
Coach Five: “He didn’t do anything for me. I don’t know what he does. I know he’s left handed. He has a decent right block, middle move. I don’t know anything about the kid, but I’m completely dumbfounded by why he left. He has no motor, either. I don’t see any motor. He doesn’t play hard enough. I don’t know. He does nothing for me, at all. We don’t even need to talk about him.”
Relevant Measurements: Center, 6-10, 230 pounds, 20 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 6.1 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 0.6 APG, 1.1 BPG, 51.8 FG%, 16.7 3P%, 66.7 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 14.1 PER, 54.5 TS%, 52.2 eFG%, 4.8 AST%, 16.2 DEFREB%, 15.6 TO%, 14.1 USG%, 5.1 BLK%, 1.0 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “Man, I don’t know. Hard guy to figure out. Can do some tantalizing things. Will make a 17-footer. Baselines, and fall-away. Decent touch with his left hand hook. Can impact on the offensive glass when properly motivated. Capable lob finisher although not particularly bouncy. Shows some switch ability at times. Just a really soft kid. Doesn’t really have a position. Longer than he is athletic. Doesn’t shoot 3s. Doesn’t go off the bounce at all. Actually thought he saw some things as a passer, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
“Appears to lack motivation. No edge. Doesn’t defensive rebound really, decent rim protector. Not much game. You know how some guys can show a glimmer of skill or versatility but still not be any good?? That’s E.J.”
Coach Two: “I don’t see it at all. I think he’s soft. He floats on the perimeter. High skill level, but all fool’s gold. Someone is giving him bad advice.”
Coach Three: “Yeah, I mean, the thing with him is that if you’re not overly high on Nick Richards, how can you even consider EJ Montgomery? If he was at Georgia, he might average 10 and 7? He’s a four-year SEC player that is a two-or-three year starter. That’s not an NBA guy.”
Coach Four: “Pass. We didn’t think he was very good. I have no other thoughts than ‘not good enough.’ We weren’t high on him. He couldn’t shoot. We felt really good when he was on the floor. I don’t know, I hate to say that about a guy. I know he’s not a terrible player, but we weren’t that into him.”
Coach Five: “He didn’t do anything for me. I don’t know what he does. I know he’s left handed. He has a decent right block, middle move. I don’t know anything about the kid, but I’m completely dumbfounded by why he left. He has no motor, either. I don’t see any motor. He doesn’t play hard enough. I don’t know. He does nothing for me, at all. We don’t even need to talk about him.”
Part 6
E.J. MONTGOMERY
Relevant Measurements: Center, 6-10, 230 pounds, 20 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 6.1 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 0.6 APG, 1.1 BPG, 51.8 FG%, 16.7 3P%, 66.7 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 14.1 PER, 54.5 TS%, 52.2 eFG%, 4.8 AST%, 16.2 DEFREB%, 15.6 TO%, 14.1 USG%, 5.1 BLK%, 1.0 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “Man, I don’t know. Hard guy to figure out. Can do some tantalizing things. Will make a 17-footer. Baselines, and fall-away. Decent touch with his left hand hook. Can impact on the offensive glass when properly motivated. Capable lob finisher although not particularly bouncy. Shows some switch ability at times. Just a really soft kid. Doesn’t really have a position. Longer than he is athletic. Doesn’t shoot 3s. Doesn’t go off the bounce at all. Actually thought he saw some things as a passer, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
“Appears to lack motivation. No edge. Doesn’t defensive rebound really, decent rim protector. Not much game. You know how some guys can show a glimmer of skill or versatility but still not be any good?? That’s E.J.”
Coach Two: “I don’t see it at all. I think he’s soft. He floats on the perimeter. High skill level, but all fool’s gold. Someone is giving him bad advice.”
Coach Three: “Yeah, I mean, the thing with him is that if you’re not overly high on Nick Richards, how can you even consider EJ Montgomery? If he was at Georgia, he might average 10 and 7? He’s a four-year SEC player that is a two-or-three year starter. That’s not an NBA guy.”
Coach Four: “Pass. We didn’t think he was very good. I have no other thoughts than ‘not good enough.’ We weren’t high on him. He couldn’t shoot. We felt really good when he was on the floor. I don’t know, I hate to say that about a guy. I know he’s not a terrible player, but we weren’t that into him.”
Coach Five: “He didn’t do anything for me. I don’t know what he does. I know he’s left handed. He has a decent right block, middle move. I don’t know anything about the kid, but I’m completely dumbfounded by why he left. He has no motor, either. I don’t see any motor. He doesn’t play hard enough. I don’t know. He does nothing for me, at all. We don’t even need to talk about him.”
Relevant Measurements: Center, 6-10, 230 pounds, 20 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 6.1 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 0.6 APG, 1.1 BPG, 51.8 FG%, 16.7 3P%, 66.7 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 14.1 PER, 54.5 TS%, 52.2 eFG%, 4.8 AST%, 16.2 DEFREB%, 15.6 TO%, 14.1 USG%, 5.1 BLK%, 1.0 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “Man, I don’t know. Hard guy to figure out. Can do some tantalizing things. Will make a 17-footer. Baselines, and fall-away. Decent touch with his left hand hook. Can impact on the offensive glass when properly motivated. Capable lob finisher although not particularly bouncy. Shows some switch ability at times. Just a really soft kid. Doesn’t really have a position. Longer than he is athletic. Doesn’t shoot 3s. Doesn’t go off the bounce at all. Actually thought he saw some things as a passer, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
“Appears to lack motivation. No edge. Doesn’t defensive rebound really, decent rim protector. Not much game. You know how some guys can show a glimmer of skill or versatility but still not be any good?? That’s E.J.”
Coach Two: “I don’t see it at all. I think he’s soft. He floats on the perimeter. High skill level, but all fool’s gold. Someone is giving him bad advice.”
Coach Three: “Yeah, I mean, the thing with him is that if you’re not overly high on Nick Richards, how can you even consider EJ Montgomery? If he was at Georgia, he might average 10 and 7? He’s a four-year SEC player that is a two-or-three year starter. That’s not an NBA guy.”
Coach Four: “Pass. We didn’t think he was very good. I have no other thoughts than ‘not good enough.’ We weren’t high on him. He couldn’t shoot. We felt really good when he was on the floor. I don’t know, I hate to say that about a guy. I know he’s not a terrible player, but we weren’t that into him.”
Coach Five: “He didn’t do anything for me. I don’t know what he does. I know he’s left handed. He has a decent right block, middle move. I don’t know anything about the kid, but I’m completely dumbfounded by why he left. He has no motor, either. I don’t see any motor. He doesn’t play hard enough. I don’t know. He does nothing for me, at all. We don’t even need to talk about him.”
Part 7
KAHLIL WHITNEY
Relevant Measurements: Wing, 6-6, 7-0 wingspan, 210 pounds, 19 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 3.3 PPG, 1.7 RPG, 0.4 APG, 37.1 FG%, 25.0 3P%, 43.5 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 6.6 PER, 41.1 TS%, 40.3 eFG%, 6.5 AST%, 7.9 DEFREB%, 17.1 TO%, 19.5 USG%, 1.3 BLK%, 1.4 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I was kind of surprised it went the way it did. It feels like he kind of lost his way. I liked him when he was a bottom of the top-100 athletic forward who was a combo-3/4 man that could straight-line drive it in and get on the offensive glass and shot a really flat corner 3 that he was trying to get more consistent with. Doesn’t really have any feel for the game, but he can be a hard driving 4 man. Then it started to blossom. He started to get stronger, he started to get more athletic pop, he started taking more pride in guarding and started shooting it better, and it was just like ‘damn, this guy has figured it out.’
“I still thought then, though, that he would be best playing in an uptempo style and in more open court possessions and not as much thinking and more reacting. But then it seemed like (things went haywire) and it became about like ‘lottery pick’ and ‘one-and-done’ and ‘McDonald’s Game.’ Everything was committed to him being a future pro, and some of the skill level growth just wasn’t there. He doesn’t have any sort of feel for what’s going on. I don’t think he’s rooted reality in terms of where his game is at right now and what improvements he needs to make. It’s sad. He’s lost his way. I figured he’d be in college for three years. But then this whole thing took his mind away.
“The problem right now is he can’t really shoot, he has no defensive awareness or understanding really of what’s going on, and he doesn’t really have feel as a perimeter player. And he got this warped mentality of a 4-man. If he was saying the right things, I’d want him on a two-way, because it’s just like ‘here’s this kid, he’s talented, there’s no risk, let’s see where it’s going.’ But if he’s not saying the right things, I almost think he’s a danger to have around. He’s tough. That’s the one thing I’ll tell you. He’s not afraid of anybody. He’s got a weird edge to him in that he’s not intimidated by anybody.”
Coach Two: “No. I feel bad for the kid. I don’t know who is advising him. The kid couldn’t get on the floor. I feel bad. Can’t get on the floor at Kentucky, and you’re going to leave? What are you doing
Relevant Measurements: Wing, 6-6, 7-0 wingspan, 210 pounds, 19 years old
Relevant Per-Game Stats: 3.3 PPG, 1.7 RPG, 0.4 APG, 37.1 FG%, 25.0 3P%, 43.5 FT%
Advanced Numbers: 6.6 PER, 41.1 TS%, 40.3 eFG%, 6.5 AST%, 7.9 DEFREB%, 17.1 TO%, 19.5 USG%, 1.3 BLK%, 1.4 STL%
Big Board Rank: N/A; Mock Draft: N/A
Scouting Reports
Coach One: “I was kind of surprised it went the way it did. It feels like he kind of lost his way. I liked him when he was a bottom of the top-100 athletic forward who was a combo-3/4 man that could straight-line drive it in and get on the offensive glass and shot a really flat corner 3 that he was trying to get more consistent with. Doesn’t really have any feel for the game, but he can be a hard driving 4 man. Then it started to blossom. He started to get stronger, he started to get more athletic pop, he started taking more pride in guarding and started shooting it better, and it was just like ‘damn, this guy has figured it out.’
“I still thought then, though, that he would be best playing in an uptempo style and in more open court possessions and not as much thinking and more reacting. But then it seemed like (things went haywire) and it became about like ‘lottery pick’ and ‘one-and-done’ and ‘McDonald’s Game.’ Everything was committed to him being a future pro, and some of the skill level growth just wasn’t there. He doesn’t have any sort of feel for what’s going on. I don’t think he’s rooted reality in terms of where his game is at right now and what improvements he needs to make. It’s sad. He’s lost his way. I figured he’d be in college for three years. But then this whole thing took his mind away.
“The problem right now is he can’t really shoot, he has no defensive awareness or understanding really of what’s going on, and he doesn’t really have feel as a perimeter player. And he got this warped mentality of a 4-man. If he was saying the right things, I’d want him on a two-way, because it’s just like ‘here’s this kid, he’s talented, there’s no risk, let’s see where it’s going.’ But if he’s not saying the right things, I almost think he’s a danger to have around. He’s tough. That’s the one thing I’ll tell you. He’s not afraid of anybody. He’s got a weird edge to him in that he’s not intimidated by anybody.”
Coach Two: “No. I feel bad for the kid. I don’t know who is advising him. The kid couldn’t get on the floor. I feel bad. Can’t get on the floor at Kentucky, and you’re going to leave? What are you doing
Hate when people (co-workers) drone on for minutes and then finish with a "Long story, short, _____"
You start with that and end with a quick point, you don't finish with it after blabbing on for minutes you idiot!!
Part 8
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
The EJ ones, lol. Vecenie even said he stopped after the first 5 b/c he didn't want to pile on.
What a bum idiot.
What a bum idiot.
I haven’t read through the thread to see if this has been mentioned, but I heard from someone who would know that Critchfield’s is going to move in to Sav A Lot and also buy the fried chicken recipe.
/monthlypost
/monthlypost
OOOooweeeeee
What's the going rate for a locally famous chicken recipe?
KrazyKat, ever thought about owning some fried chicken?
A lot of that is fair but I do wonder what the coaches that say things like "I don't like the Kentucky guys" , if being totally truth-serum honest, would say about other guys' pro prospects that are on their own teams.
"Yeah, he sucks balls. Just total balls. Not much more to say. It's the best I could do."
"Massive ***** in practice. Hilariously terrible shot at making it."
"Yeah, he sucks balls. Just total balls. Not much more to say. It's the best I could do."
"Massive ***** in practice. Hilariously terrible shot at making it."
It's a shame EJ didn't stick it out at Kentucky, improve tremendously, and become a lottery pick/millionaire.
What an idiot.
What an idiot.
Chad, Highlander is your best bet.
I don’t get the Nick Richards criticisms. I think that dude has the most NBA game. Jarret Allen part 2.
Richards has better upside than Dakari I’ll tell you that.
* Flipped on Squawk Box this morning and see Moderna is one last human trial away from fast-tracking a vaccine. Stock price soaring. Medical experts touting this as the potential breakthrough we need and noting if course holds, they should have up to a billion doses available by January. Finally, some positive news on the covid front. Weird how Twitter is not echoing that
Moderna...LOL. Been around for 10 years and hasn't been able to being a single drug to market, but now is being touted as a saviour when it comes to COVID?
There is a reason why the stock price is "soaring" today at a whopping 7%.
There are others out there that are actually doing a better job on the vaccine/treatment front than this company. Good news is needed, but not from these guys.
My $0.02
- Thanks a ton, @august-west . That’s why I pay to post on GYERO.
- Llama- oral histories are one of my Top 5 worst journalistic gimmicks- right below the horseshit “open letter” nonsense.
- Llama- oral histories are one of my Top 5 worst journalistic gimmicks- right below the horseshit “open letter” nonsense.
Fair, Albany. Don't know **** about the company but they are one of the few with grants working on a vaccine and passed a huge hurdle of getting the medicine into market. I'll take that as a good thing.
Chase isn’t even wearing a mask in the Toyota ad. What a hypocrite.
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