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roguemocha

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Just took a two hour bike ride around town, weather is perfect and no traffic. I can deal with this for a few weeks.
 

anthonys735

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Don't have to be a Nobel prize winning economist to understand the kind damage being inflicted to our economy. Large companies will bounce back, but this will cause irreparable damage to small businesses.

We're staring down the barrel of a recession because our state/local governments have made ridiculous decisions in a series of one-upsmanship. With 22k current known cases in the US, it will take a 74,000% increase for total number of cases to reach 0.05% of the US population (i.e., 5 per 1,000)....

Should we practice social-distancing? Yes. Was it the right call to cancel the NCAA-T and other large events? Yes. But issuing state-wide orders to stay home is just plain f*cking stupid at this point....
Hopeful as we learn more now with legit countries doing mass testing that we can make informed decisions in the next couple weeks. Then start to focus on the at risk and get people back to work. Most can probably rebound if its a month. Anything longer than that and we're going to have real problems.
 

Wynn Duffy 69

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^ Yes.

We have to get people back to work. And businesses back open.

Of course we can’t do that until it’s safe to do so. But, how we evaluate and determine what is “safe” will be the million dollar question. I certainly don’t know, and I don’t think anyone knows, but fear of the unknown can’t be the standard we use.

The economy is already crushed. If it gets much more crushed, will there even be anything to come back to? Is there an economic point of no return with the road we’re going down?

It’s unprecedented, so I guess no one knows, but we better figure it out. The unemployment numbers that come out next week are going to shock.
 

drxman1

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I mean, I guess a big question is where do you put the goal posts for this outbreak?

If it kills less than influenza is that a success?

US body count under 10k a massive
Win?
 

roguemocha

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I hope we pull out of this okay but the economy is toast. It’s going to be a while before this little town makes any money again. I feel for everyone, going to be a struggle for a long while.
 

IB4UK_rivals31204

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I mean, I guess a big question is where do you put the goal posts for this outbreak?

If it kills less than influenza is that a success?

US body count under 10k a massive
Win?

since the news reported deaths could total 2.2 million as a worst case scenario 10K would be hopeful.
 

drxman1

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Hopeful we pull this off with as little loss of life as possible. Moving forward, how do we respond
In the future? I mean, we’re blowing our economic load on this. What if there is another pandemic next year? Something much nastier like an Ebola, and we are toast.
 
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Good question doc. If it’s 10k deaths and 20% unemployment, was it worth it? 20k deaths and 30% unemployment? No one knows the answer right now. The unknown is super scary.

The unemployment website was completely overloaded here by Friday. I think the numbers nationwide will go above 5 million claims in the past week.
 

Wynn Duffy 69

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Based on the data I’ve seen, the rate of new unemployment claims next week compared to prior week is going to blow away our prior records. That includes the great depression.

(keep in mind that is week-to-week rate, i.e. zero to sixty. It’s not total numbers.)
 

anthonys735

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Thank God for horse racing. Got a small dose of gambol and sports today. Shew, much needed.

Props to you all that can stomach old games right now.
 
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anthonys735

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I fear we’ve got a year+ of this ****. Not sure how you allow large crowds until a vaccine. Think restrictions will loosen in June, then it’ll hit again in the fall and we’re stuck back in our GD houses again.
I don't see it. Guy, that claims to be on the task force, in the virus thread says the first vaccine production will be out in 4 months.

Plus, summer will kill it down. As of now the death rate has continued to slowly decrease in the states. We'll move on to the next thing that's going to kill us. And.... hopefully the economy gets back to rolling.

^optimistic view.
 

Ahnan E. Muss

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I don't see it. Guy, that claims to be on the task force, in the virus thread says the first vaccine production will be out in 4 months.

Plus, summer will kill it down. As of now the death rate has continued to slowly decrease in the states. We'll move on to the next thing that's going to kill us. And.... hopefully the economy gets back to rolling.

^optimistic view.

Guy on the task force is pretty young if I remember right. It wasn't too long ago he was on here asking for advice about finding his first job out of grad school. Not saying he's wrong, just that he might be a bit naive and idealistic.
 

anthonys735

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Guy on the task force is pretty young if I remember right. It wasn't too long ago he was on here asking for advice about finding his first job out of grad school. Not saying he's wrong, just that he might be a bit naive and idealistic.
That's why I prefaced it. I have no idea who he is. I also don't buy 18 mos before we get something.
 
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IB4UK_rivals31204

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That's why I prefaced it. I have no idea who he is. I also don't buy 18 mos before we get something.

Probably a “better to tell the public a worst case timeline” and not have the public getting to the point of pitchforks and torches with government if the timeline isn’t met.
 

JB875

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For what it’s worth, the shutdown isn’t aimed at keeping people isolated until the threat of the virus is gone. It’s to slow the spread so that everyone doesn’t get it at the same time, and allow for sick people to actually be treated. If we find that it’s present everywhere, but our ICUs aren’t overrun, there’s meaningful vaccine/treatment progress, people change their hygiene/habits, PPE is abundant, and people actually take this **** seriously, they should be able to ease restrictions sooner rather than later. If everyone gets this in the next two weeks, we will be at a point where we have to decide who lives and who dies based on limited resources. Things won’t be pretty and hope for a return to normal life becomes hard to justify; the economy still collapses. It’s much better to be overly cautious at the beginning, rather than wait til we’re in a northern Italy situation (where the military was just called in to enforce isolation).
 
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I just think that if this goes on longer than another month people are going to start “breaking” the rules and start gathering in large groups again. You’ll see some small
Restaurants/bars/gyms open up. Youth sports teams will start playing again. Churches holding services. Weddings/funerals. What happens then? Feel like that’s when it might get scary.
 

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It took 10 months to get a vaccine for the 2009 strain of H1N1. 18 months may be the upper end, but it’s definitely a possibility

-brax floating the idea that he and some necks from nicholasville are in the preparatory phases of breaking the social distancing restrictions so they can play little league travel ball is what scares me.
 
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BRax, San Jose Police are stepping up enforcement starting Monday and cracking down on businesses and others who violate the order. And there is a hotline to report violations (that’s a little creepy btw).

To be fair, most everyone is buying in and not violating the order. At least for now. It’s only been 5 days.
 
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anthonys735

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It took 10 months to get a vaccine for the 2009 strain of H1N1. 18 months may be the upper end, but it’s definitely a possibility
10 months would be good. Hopefully with the entire world working on it we can get it early winter.

Hysteria also overruns the hospitals.

Obviously Italy is really bad but it's gotta be getting to the point it's an outlier. Southern part of the country is similar to the rest of the world.
 

anthonys735

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Also, can we talk about instapot chicken? It just doesn't work. That sucker does great on lots but it basically destroys chicken. Even thighs. Feeling pretty passionate here.
 

_Chase_

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10 months would be good. Hopefully with the entire world working on it we can get it early winter.

Hysteria also overruns the hospitals.

Obviously Italy is really bad but it's gotta be getting to the point it's an outlier. Southern part of the country is similar to the rest of the world.

No idea how accurate is, because I’m not a doctorball, but I’ve read that the UK is going to get smacked around pretty GD bad if they don’t lock it all down within a day or two.

Also, I haven’t seen a ton of mention of it, but I can only imagine the deaths if this catches fire in India, which I assume it will.
 

Kennedy_UK

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Obviously Italy is really bad but it's gotta be getting to the point it's an outlier.
Yep. There are ridiculous aggregating factors nobody wants to mention about Italy.

* Let’s start with an aging population. 60% of the Italian population is over 40, and 23% is over 65.

* The smoking rate in Italy is right around 24%. That rate is substantially higher among middle-aged men.

* With a high unemployment rate, there is a high number of 18-25yos living at home with parents and grandparents.

There are others, but those that compare the US with Italy (not saying you are) fail to realize there are some big cultural and societal differences that make Italy a breeding ground for COVID-19. Other European countries are similar, like Spain, but were also far more proactive.
 

JB875

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One thing I know... the people behind the app Plague absolutely know their stuff. The way this is played out has been eerily similar to playing that game. Good news is it’s really hard to win the game unless playing on the easiest of modes... and starting in India.

...and yes the USA is different than Italy, especially in demographics and population density. That doesn’t mean you completely ignore the real life scenario playing out in real time and learn nothing from it. Find your hope where you want, but you can’t just say “welp that’s Italy, not here, we don’t need to do anything.”
 

_Chase_

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One thing I know... the people behind the app Plague absolutely know their stuff. The way this is played out has been eerily similar to playing that game. Good news is it’s really hard to win the game unless playing on the easiest of modes... and starting in India.

...and yes the USA is different than Italy, especially in demographics and population density. That doesn’t mean you completely ignore the real life scenario playing out in real time and learn nothing from it. Find your hope where you want, but you can’t just say “welp that’s Italy, not here, we don’t need to do anything.”


Madagascar has closed its borders.
 

UK_Dallas

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Can anyone argue against having secure borders, that can be locked down immediately, from this point forward?

- Maybe I read it on here - can't remember where - but China(or a business from there) purchased an Italian company and had 100K workers in Italy most of whom were from Wuhan.
 
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Ahnan E. Muss

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How many infections came from the dirty illegals crossing the Mexican border, Chief?

if anyone wants a wall right now, it’s probably them.

Oh, and congrats on using a pandemic to further your political agenda.

All part of Trump's master plan to get Mexico to pay for the wall? That man is a genius!
 
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