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TheShowKiller

TheShowKiller

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Dec 30, 2002
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One more rant about my whole spacing obsession...

We (Cal our staff) give zero thought to who is on the floor together and how it affects our offensive spacing. We have 4 guys that teams have to respect, Maxey, Quickley, Sestina and (in theory) Juzang. You should make an effort to work combinations that keep at least two out there at a time. If you are running Whitney/Brooks at the 3 and Hagans is at point with EJ and Nick you have one guy with gravity. We make life so hard on our wings and bigs in regards to room to drive/post and they are marginally talented to begin with.

If you run Whitney/Brooks at the 3 you should either have Sestina at the 4 or Maxey/Quickley as your backcourt combo, and so on.

Of course none of this really addresses the issue of giving up 56 in a half to one of the worse offensive teams ever.
 
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PuffyNips

PuffyNips

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anthonys735 said:
Just go through normal sub patterns, for christ sakes. Willy, we understand what that Quickley gets minutes but our best lineup is playing like 20ish minutes together and even getting a look until at least 10 minutes into the game. That's lunacy.
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I think we are on the same page. That is what I meant with, "Can we just stop touching around and start the 3 of them together now, please?"

The 3 guards should be playing 35 minutes each. 30 of them at the same time. And Richards as many as he can go.
 
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Kooky Kats_anon

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Maybe Cal knows that the 3-guard lineup exposes Nick vulnerable to early foul trouble under the glass getting position... but whatevs.

the Dragon needs to learn over the summer what it takes... not during the conference games hoisting up ******** at critical moments...

EJ should portal.
 
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Kooky Kats_anon

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Wildcat Willy said:
That is the same kind of stupid **** people were saying about Richards last year... and even earlier this year.

I have no problem with a player taking longer to develop. Let's just not try to teach him on the court during crunch time.
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My bad... 5 pages of him being called Skal-type bust is much more acceptable:(.

Skal at least had some high-scoring games.... as a freshman.

I got no time for dudes who don’t dive on the floor for loose balls, and EJ continues to loaf. If you’re sucking **** for most of the game, you’d at least think it was time to do something/anything to help the team.

EJ with no boards in second half? GTFOH.
 
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krazykats

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If we started our best 5 and used the bench sparingly as it should be used THIS year, not a single person would complain about what we get from Whitney, Brooks, or EJ.

That’s how college ball was years ago where FR had to be generational to get some run. The fact that Cal refuses to go this route is on him, and the fact that we have this lack of depth is on him too.

Meanwhile Jemarl Baker is a decent contributor at Arizona this year providing the exact off the bench presence we need.
 
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krazykats

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Baker is a D1 level player who has now contributed at two different schools hovering around the top 10 ranked in the country.


Nice comparison though.
 
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Phil McKracken

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Kooky Kats said:
I got no time for dudes who don’t dive on the floor for loose balls, and EJ continues to loaf.
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EJ did dive on the floor for a loose ball last night during a very critical point late in the game...unfortunately it happened to be on a long offensive rebound that was bouncing out towards half court and he was the closest player to the ball with no usc guy close to him. He just ended up flat on his face and the cock player ran right past him, picked it up and went on a fast break. Good try, good effort.
I yelled “Montgomery is such a giant Pu__y!!” right in front of the daughter. Highlight of the night for me.
 
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UK_Dallas

UK_Dallas

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Juzang has a much higher ceiling than Jemarl.

Looked serviceable defensively. Just needs a few to go in to get going offensively.
 
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PuffyNips

PuffyNips

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krazykats said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3497300002

That sounds more like a coach that was fine with Baker getting out of the way with Maxey and Whitney coming in and Hagans/IQ already in place.

I’ll stop here and disagree in this case.
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Cal played him sparingly as a freshman (which is what you are advocating) and the kid decided to transfer elsewhere instead of providing the depth we could use.

What do think Cal was going to say when he said he was going to transfer... no?

It's not like we needed his scholarship to bring in Maxey and Whitney. We have plenty of those sitting around unused.

Most kids don't want to wait their turn these days. Ask Charles Matthews.

I blame high fructose corn syrup.
 
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krazykats

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No I just think Cal pushed for the transfer. I think Cal over estimated what he had coming in and thought oh well.

What I think he should have done is made Baker feel important. The dude was a RS FR so his 2 years experience this year would have been great and had Cal told him “last year you sat behind 2 first round NBA draft picks, this year you’d be stronger and better and we most likely won’t have that same talent level, we could really use you and would love for you to stay”.

I assume it was more like “ well you know I got 3 DOGS coming in and if you think I’m recruiting over you then you might be right, but if Arizona is a place you can go, that’s a good school and I don’t blame you for taking advantage of that opportunity”.

Cal seems to be decent at getting players he wants, I’d like to think he could keep a kid that was committed enough to RS, and then get very little PT in his one year. It’s not like he starts for Arizona as he only get 18 minutes a game.
 
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RandomUser

RandomUser

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Willy hit my biggest nit to pick, which is the unused scholarships. I'd like another option or two to root for OR complain about. At this point, the managers should scoot down and we should leave 3 empty chairs to represent the players we don't have.

Maybe some of you touched on the reason? I guess if he takes a flyer on a couple of guys that might develop into something, that would knock down the ranking of the next vaunted recruiting class.
 
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mashburned

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B.B.d.K. said:
Juzang is a 5* player, was a finalist for USA Basketball, and plays & stars for the #1 AAU team in the entire country (alongside the #1 player) and can flat fill it up -- he's gonna be fine.

And he's 6'6+. Comparisons to Baker are dumb and lazy.

He's my favorite player, back off. :sunglasses:
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Blatantly false made up nonsense.

ukwizard said:
Mashburned going all in on that guy and UK football is a pretty foolish move IMO. Not too late to get on the Juzang train tomorrow.
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Re: Justin Rogers
 
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Teriecat

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Anyone watching America’s Top Dog on A&E?
Contest with K-9s and some civilian dogs on an American Ninja Dog type course.
You might remember some of the dogs from Live PD.
Love this show!
 
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UK_Dallas

UK_Dallas

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OnUK said:
Exactly WTF do you base this on? That you heard he hit a 3 in summer pick-up games?
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If you can’t see the difference in how he moves on the court and his superior athleticism then you shouldn’t be here.
 
legalbeagle123

legalbeagle123

Heisman
Jun 16, 2001
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I have faith in Juzang. He's a player, can tell be watching him. The problem is that Cal stuck him in there during crunch time when any outside shooting should have been exclusively Maxey/Quickley. Why didn't Cal play him early on? Makes zero sense and it's maddening.
 
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WayneDougan_rivals170043

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Kooky Kats said:
Also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Asian-American," please.
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Fun fact: This "Asian-American" Canadian dude named La Ming back in the 1800's climbed a mountain in Canada on a bet. His prize: $50 and he got to name the mountain. He named it "Chinaman's Peak" in honor of all his fellow railway workers. Back in '98 a Chinaman in Canada got offended over it and had it renamed. So I'm sticking with Chinaman, just as famed climber La Ming preferred, and Chinaman Juzang better appreciate that.
 
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