Gut Check for State fans

Bulldogg31

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I know everyone is pissed right now and venting which is fine, this is a good venue for that and it does help get over the “pissed-offness”. No coaches are being fired because someone on a message board is mad online.

That said, Dan Mullen was always accused of acting like he’d built the entire football program in Starkville, and that WE were the ones lucky to have HIM here. Folks didn’t like his arrogant attitude and said he acted like like he was better than Starkville and MSU. Folks outside of the MSU family (the media and fans of other teams) said that the minute Mullen left we’d fade back into irrelevance, back to being a doormat in the SEC.

If you remember, when Mullen came to State we were one of the worst programs in all of college football. People said you can’t win football games at State. Mullen had to beg us to come to the games, buy the tickets, support the players, donate to the program, etc. He literally had to drag us off the Croom couch to come fill the stadium on Saturdays. Eventually we did and the success soon followed.

Well now Mullen’s gone, and we’ve lost two games in a row to two teams who are a combined 9-1, the only loss being between themselves. The program has hit some real resistance and for the first time in a while things aren’t going well.


Everyone is free to do with their time and money as they wish but I will put this out there:

If we decide that just because things aren’t going the way we want them to that we’re no longer going to buy tickets, come to games, donate money or support the new coaches, players, administration and the program, then we deserve to go right back to the bottom of the college football barrel where Mullen found us.


Great fanbases don’t hold the program hostage because things aren’t going the way they want them to. Great fanbases support the program with their time and money even when the results aren’t great.

I’d hate to see us give up the momentum we’ve spent a decade building. I’d hate to see Mullen and everyone else be right about us.
 

klong-dog

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Aug 22, 2012
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So so true but you know good and well, it starts next week in the attendance drop. So sad.
 

Bulldogg31

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So so true but you know good and well, it starts next week in the attendance drop. So sad.

It doesn’t have to. I watched South Carolina sell out every game one season while going 0-11.

We have a choice. We can support the team and the program with our time and our money or we can go back to doing whatever it was we were doing when Croom was here. We did it that way as a fanbase and a program for a long long time and we continue to reap what we sowed there.

We have an opportunity to show our support and loyalty right now. It’s a choice. The Football Gods don’t owe us a magical 2018 or anything else for that matter, and the other SEC fans will be perfectly happy smirking at us as we give up, go home, and go back to being irrelevant.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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I’m sorry but money and attendance talks. Cohen just assumes everything is fine and we are content and so does Keemun. Everything isn’t fine. We are about to see the dogs go back to the dark ages because our football coach is a moron and so is our athletic director for thinking it would be a smooth transition. If he didn’t think it would be a smooth transition that he is even more of a moron. I can support the players but I won’t support a coach who is too dam stubborn to get out of his own way and trying to make this team something they are not.
 

Bulldogg31

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I’m sorry but money and attendance talks. Cohen just assumes everything is fine and we are content and so does Keemun. Everything isn’t fine. We are about to see the dogs go back to the dark ages because our football coach is a moron and so is our athletic director for thinking it would be a smooth transition. If he didn’t think it would be a smooth transition that he is even more of a moron. I can support the players but I won’t support a coach who is too dam stubborn to get out of his own way and trying to make this team something they are not.

Knowing what we know about John Cohen and Mark Keenum, what on Earth makes you think they’re ok with losing? You know they are both HUGE football fans, right?

What have they done that makes you think they believe everything is ok?

The only thing withholding our money and attendance “says” to the current and potential coaches is that we’re a fairweather fan base who likes to pout when we don’t get our way.

We laugh at Ole Miss when their stadium is half-full, then we have fans of our own say “screw our school, I’m not going anymore”.

It’s not how you build a long-term winner.
 
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Our running backs have 24 combined carries in eight SEC quarters. This staff can’t coach. Enjoy getting gut checked. I’ll see you in a decade when we MIGHT be relevant again.
 
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RPOdawg

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I know everyone is pissed right now and venting which is fine, this is a good venue for that and it does help get over the “pissed-offness”. No coaches are being fired because someone on a message board is mad online.

That said, Dan Mullen was always accused of acting like he’d built the entire football program in Starkville, and that WE were the ones lucky to have HIM here. Folks didn’t like his arrogant attitude and said he acted like like he was better than Starkville and MSU. Folks outside of the MSU family (the media and fans of other teams) said that the minute Mullen left we’d fade back into irrelevance, back to being a doormat in the SEC.

If you remember, when Mullen came to State we were one of the worst programs in all of college football. People said you can’t win football games at State. Mullen had to beg us to come to the games, buy the tickets, support the players, donate to the program, etc. He literally had to drag us off the Croom couch to come fill the stadium on Saturdays. Eventually we did and the success soon followed.

Well now Mullen’s gone, and we’ve lost two games in a row to two teams who are a combined 9-1, the only loss being between themselves. The program has hit some real resistance and for the first time in a while things aren’t going well.


Everyone is free to do with their time and money as they wish but I will put this out there:

If we decide that just because things aren’t going the way we want them to that we’re no longer going to buy tickets, come to games, donate money or support the new coaches, players, administration and the program, then we deserve to go right back to the bottom of the college football barrel where Mullen found us.


Great fanbases don’t hold the program hostage because things aren’t going the way they want them to. Great fanbases support the program with their time and money even when the results aren’t great.

I’d hate to see us give up the momentum we’ve spent a decade building. I’d hate to see Mullen and everyone else be right about us.


the only voice fans have are their time and money. Why would anyone drag their family and spend close to 1,000 each weekend in hotel, food, gas, tickets to go support this team? They don’t deserve it. They just don’t. I’ll admit I was wrong about mullen. After seeing him last night hug our players it really made me miss the guy. We’ll never be the same. Oh well, that’s MSU athletics for ya. Basketball season is near but I refuse to get excited about that either.
 

Shamoan

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Mullen had our support 100% from the beginning. We set an all-time spring game attendance record his first spring here if you recall. You make it sound like he was begging us to support the team, when in reality, we simply couldn't watch another snap of croom ball and anything different would have gotten our support.
 

yee dawgy

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Nice pep talk but it’s hard to support a coach that makes the same mistake that he admitted to making the previous week after running the ball for the first 28 minutes. And on top of going to nothing but passing we don’t throw to the players we talked about being our “star” receivers. Mitchell is too inconsistent to count on.
Head coaches at this level (SEC) can not be responsible for calling plays. Mullins tried it and choked in big games. Moorhead is trying it and all he can do is pass when the pressure is on. Cohen needs to “encourage” him to be “head coach” and trust his coordinators. That’s the same thing that held Dan back. If he’d hired a legitimate OC we’d won some of the big games we got embarrassed in by Dan’s idiotic play calling.
 

Dawg1976

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Nice pep talk but it’s hard to support a coach that makes the same mistake that he admitted to making the previous week after running the ball for the first 28 minutes.

True. This season is pretty much shot as to coming close to what we all hoped and expected. Hopefully he shows he can adjust as the season goes forward and the offense improves. Give the fan base something. At this point 6-6 would be salvaging something. Get us to some kind of dipshit bowl. But that is hard to see at this point.
 

Bully75

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I assure you the Cohenand Keenum are not happy nor are they unaware of the situation we find ourselves in this morning. They are as true maroon and even more so than those running to the board. They are professional and won’t comment here or anywhere, but do not start accusations of them not caring or ignoring the situation. They both have and will do everything in their power to always do what’s best for this university. Hail State!
 

Shamoan

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I assure you the Cohenand Keenum are not happy nor are they unaware of the situation we find ourselves in this morning. They are as true maroon and even more so than those running to the board. They are professional and won’t comment here or anywhere, but do not start accusations of them not caring or ignoring the situation. They both have and will do everything in their power to always do what’s best for this university. Hail State!

I'll bite. If they "won't comment here or anywhere" how do you know how they feel about it? I'm assuming you have some inside knowledge...
 

Msubulldogfan1

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No gut check for me. Just going back to keeping up with the games, enjoying if we win, but investing no emotion or hope in it.

It’s less stressful like this anyway.
 

PartTimeGenius

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We’re currently on track to win the same number of championships we won with Mullen here. So, you go getters, are you after championships or simply win totals? In 2014 Mullen couldn’t win a championship (SEC WEST, SEC, or NATIONAL) with the #1 team in the nation. I recall the same complaints about Mullen when he couldn’t get over the hump to win the big games.
 

gymdawg.sixpack

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I wont be going to games til a coaching change is made. And i know im not alone. I dont care what otherd think. I care what Cohen thinks. And the best way to get his attention is to have a half filled stadium.
 
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RPOdawg

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I wont be going to games til a coaching change is made. And i know im not alone. I dont care what otherd think. I care what Cohen thinks. And the best way to get his attention is to have a half filled stadium.

moorhead could win 5 games this year and I still think Joe would keep his job. He’s getting at least 2 years I would imagine. But, I’m with you. This team doesn’t deserve fan support nor does the coaching staff. Im thinking about taking up a new hobby on Saturday’s besides getting emotionally invested in 18-21 year olds. Any suggestions?
 

Bulldogg31

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moorhead could win 5 games this year and I still think Joe would keep his job. He’s getting at least 2 years I would imagine. But, I’m with you. This team doesn’t deserve fan support nor does the coaching staff. Im thinking about taking up a new hobby on Saturday’s besides getting emotionally invested in 18-21 year olds. Any suggestions?

Doesn’t deserve fan support? Why?
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Nah I’m done. Moorhead and the team blew the season. I’m not sitting through another game of 200 yards of offense against an average team. I also don’t want to see Fitzgerald play QB again. I’m tired of his inaccurate passing and bad decision making. I’d rather watch anyone of you fail out there.
 
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RPOdawg

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Doesn’t deserve fan support? Why?


youre kidding right? Explain to me why I should spend my hard earned money on hotels, tickets, food, gas to come support a team that gives zero 17 and zero effort on gameday? When fans are displeased with the product the only way to express your displeasure with said product is to not show up to games. This isn’t a new concept.
 
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We’re currently on track to win the same number of championships we won with Mullen here. So, you go getters, are you after championships or simply win totals? In 2014 Mullen couldn’t win a championship (SEC WEST, SEC, or NATIONAL) with the #1 team in the nation. I recall the same complaints about Mullen when he couldn’t get over the hump to win the big games.

This go-getter thinks it’s a lot harder to win championships when you lose every game.
 
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