Guess the rotation

[PSAL_Hoops]

Ugh. I think Duarte will qualify. I thought Dorian Jones would qualify (and yet somehow Brendan Sorsby does qualify). One thing for certain, the NCAA pretends to be tough with schools like Rutgers to keep up the pretense that they serve some function.

It would’ve been embarrassing if our academic standards were lower than OSU’s so Jones not qualifying was ok with me.seeing where he transferred to, he wouldn’t have had much impact.

 

[NBKnight]

Ugh. I think Duarte will qualify. I thought Dorian Jones would qualify (and yet somehow Brendan Sorsby does qualify). One thing for certain, the NCAA pretends to be tough with schools like Rutgers to keep up the pretense that they serve some function.

You can’t blame the NCAA for Sorsby, they ruled him ineligible. It was a judged that is allowing him to play.

 

[NBKnight]

It would’ve been embarrassing if our academic standards were lower than OSU’s so Jones not qualifying was ok with me.seeing where he transferred to, he wouldn’t have had much impact.

Jones issue was the NCAA requirements, not RU’s or OSU’s.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Jones issue was the NCAA requirements, not RU’s or OSU’s.

I have no idea the specifics. I’m sure your right. The point is, if his grades weren’t good enough to allow him to play at OSU, how was he going to play at RU? It wasn’t like time had passed for anything to change. Ifit was as simple as a summer school class he would’ve just done that at OSU. That’s what I meant. If we found a way to get him eligible that fast it wouldn’t have been the best look.

 

[NBKnight]

I have no idea the specifics. I’m sure your right. The point is, if his grades weren’t good enough to allow him to play at OSU, how was he going to play at RU? It wasn’t like time had passed for anything to change. Ifit was as simple as a summer school class he would’ve just done that at OSU. That’s what I meant. If we found a way to get him eligible that fast it wouldn’t have been the best look.

I don’t know what the thought process was. But it could have been, bring him in even though there are issues with is eligibility, worst case is he redshirts. As it turned out, he did not show enough to bring him back. To me, it was a reasonable gamble. The roster was complete when he was added, so we did not miss out on someone else. It just did not work out.

 

[Bob Chaewsky_rivals]

I disagree. 36.7% from three has to count as better than just “decent” on a sample of 198 attempts. Volume matters. When BAC asked if there was a “catch” this is probably where he’s coming from. For whatever reason, RU historically hasn’t seemed to appeal to the 3 and D type transfers. Jones certainly qualifies as that. When you add in that he can handle the ball and is a pretty good rebounder those are just added bonuses.

The addition of Jones provides a lot more confidence the perimeter D will be much better per 40. We played a 3 guard line up at least half a game last season. While defensive efficiency metrics aren’t all that reliable, it’s a very safe bet Jones comes in better than either Powers or Zrno performed at the 3 last season. We have a fan predicting Powers will do great things by his senior year - who knows, maybe he’ll do a 180 on D and earn PT at the 3 as a result. Either way - whatever we put on the floor this year at the 3 alongside a 2 small guard line up (when we play it) is going to be better than our options last year now. Jones all but ensures this. Yes - it’s a jump up in competition, but Jones is still an experienced D1 player who graded out well on D. Jordan was a unique situation where his D metrics at Merrimack were propped up by being elite at one specific skill that fit the coach’s zone scheme. His defensive drop was the exception not the rule for this reason and even still, Jordan still would’ve been materially better on D than the guards we played there last year. The bar for improvement was low. Smith at the 3 did not breed promise of improvement though. Jones definitely does. Usually the advanced indiv metrics for backcourt defense are reliable enough to predict concerns for who could be unplayable at the high major level. Jones won’t be that.

I think the idea that a lower three point percentage is more acceptable if the volume is high is really dumb.Someone else should be taking some of those shots. Also, if you take 200 threes, there is less pressure on you than if you take 60. Would you rather have one guy shooting 36.7% from three on 198 shots or two guys in his place each shooting 38% on 96 shots, or someone else who is shooting 40% from three on 40 shots take more of the team's threes? The assumption is that JMDavis' three point percentage would go down if he took more threes. I think it goes up slightly - more shots, less pressure on each shot.

 

[RUDiddy777]

It would’ve been embarrassing if our academic standards were lower than OSU’s so Jones not qualifying was ok with me.seeing where he transferred to, he wouldn’t have had much impact.

Are academic standards lower at Kent State or is he just not good enough?

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

According to the new roster page we have 9 guards(1 walk-on), 2 forwards and 3 centers. 3 guards/wings, 1 forward, 1 center or 4 guards and Big.

By number,
Guards- Francis, Davis, Mark, Powers, Smith Jr, Buchanan Jr, Wooten, Jones, Fradkin
Forwards- Sydnor, Tonejc
Center- Ware, Buca, Gurdak

Men's Basketball Roster - Rutgers University Athletics

The official Men's Basketball Roster for the Rutgers Scarlet Knights

scarletknights.com

 

[Nyagentman]

I’ll go Francis ,Smith jr, Buchanan Gurdak and Davis

 

[RAC93]

According to the new roster page we have 9 guards(1 walk-on), 2 forwards and 3 centers. 3 guards/wings, 1 forward, 1 center or 4 guards and Big.

By number,
Guards- Francis, Davis, Mark, Powers, Smith Jr, Buchanan Jr, Wooten, Jones, Fradkin
Forwards- Sydnor, Tonejc
Center- Ware, Buca, Gurdak

Men's Basketball Roster - Rutgers University Athletics

The official Men's Basketball Roster for the Rutgers Scarlet Knights

scarletknights.com

No idea why Buchanan keeps getting listed as a guard. Dude plays the forward position on the court (whether it’s the 3 or the 4), we all know he’s one of our forwards, yet he continually gets listed as a guard. Not a guard.

 

[RUfan1977]

No idea why Buchanan keeps getting listed as a guard. Dude plays the forward position on the court (whether it’s the 3 or the 4), we all know he’s one of our forwards, yet he continually gets listed as a guard. Not a guard.

For Pete’s sake, just because he’s not built like a guard, doesn’t play like a guard, can’t dribble like a guard and doesn’t have the skills of a guard, doesn’t mean he can’t self identify as a guard!

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

No idea why Buchanan keeps getting listed as a guard. Dude plays the forward position on the court (whether it’s the 3 or the 4), we all know he’s one of our forwards, yet he continually gets listed as a guard. Not a guard.

Probably because after J-Mike, Tariq and Lino he would probably have been perceived as the next best ball handler on last year’s team (our traditional 2 guards were really shaky with on ball pressure). It’d be close for that 4th spot between him and Bryce Dortch though (and Dortch clearly not a guard so, then yeah, in that sense your point stands).

 

[RAC93]

Probably because after J-Mike, Tariq and Lino he would probably have been perceived as the next best ball handler on last year’s team (our traditional 2 guards were really shaky with on ball pressure). It’d be close for that 4th spot between him and Bryce Dortch though (and Dortch clearly not a guard so, then yeah, in that sense your point stands).

He’s not a guard, really nothing more needs to be said beyond that. He’s clearly a forward.

 

[NBKnight]

I think the idea that a lower three point percentage is more acceptable if the volume is high is really dumb.Someone else should be taking some of those shots. Also, if you take 200 threes, there is less pressure on you than if you take 60. Would you rather have one guy shooting 36.7% from three on 198 shots or two guys in his place each shooting 38% on 96 shots, or someone else who is shooting 40% from three on 40 shots take more of the team's threes? The assumption is that JMDavis' three point percentage would go down if he took more threes. I think it goes up slightly - more shots, less pressure on each shot.

It’s not dumb at all. If you have a player who only shoots three’s when he has plenty of time and is wide open, he is more likely to shoot a higher percentage than if he is more aggressive and takes more challenging three’s.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

It’s not dumb at all. If you have a player who only shoots three’s when he has plenty of time and is wide open, he is more likely to shoot a higher percentage than if he is more aggressive and takes more challenging three’s.

This. I’m not intending to crap on J Mike but he was our best percentage 3 point shooter at 35.8% last season. He attempted a total of 159 of them his entire career (32.1% lifetime but never-mind that). He’s improved as a shooter, yes, but he only attempts them when wide open and it would be ludicrous to adopt the assumption that he would maintain his same percentage if he started launching contested long balls, or assume he can suddenly just get open so much more to be able to take way more of the types of shots he’s always taken. Ridiculous.

Rasheed Jones, in contrast, has taken 390 threes over only 2 seasons - made 36.7% of them last season (35.4% over the 2 years). His shooting improved year over year too, but even if you look at the blended average - 35.4% is damn good across all those shot attempts (it’s the equivalent of 53% on 2s).

 

[GM]

I think the idea that a lower three point percentage is more acceptable if the volume is high is really dumb.Someone else should be taking some of those shots. Also, if you take 200 threes, there is less pressure on you than if you take 60. Would you rather have one guy shooting 36.7% from three on 198 shots or two guys in his place each shooting 38% on 96 shots, or someone else who is shooting 40% from three on 40 shots take more of the team's threes? The assumption is that JMDavis' three point percentage would go down if he took more threes. I think it goes up slightly - more shots, less pressure on each shot.

The guy taking more threes cause i doubt the other 100 shots you’re taking with those two guys are being scored at above 54%, which is the efficiency you’d need to score at to make up for the 100 threes you’re missing from the 36% 3 point shooter. Add on the fact there’s been research into how 3 point volume is actually a better predictor of 3 point percentage than 3 point percentage itself.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

Forgot to post this yesterday. Kind of fits the 9 Guards/Wings, 2 Forwards, 3 Centers roster post. Buchanan does play more like a Guard/Wing despite his frame. It will either be Buchanan or Jones(2/3) at that 3rd spot in Nov. Sydnor is a true rebounding forward/4, maybe Smith Jr(3/4)

 

[RUfan1977]

Forgot to post this yesterday. Kind of fits the 9 Guards/Wings, 2 Forwards, 3 Centers roster post. Buchanan does play more like a Guard/Wing despite his frame. It will either be Buchanan or Jones(2/3) at that 3rd spot in Nov. Sydnor is a true rebounding forward/4, maybe Smith Jr(3/4)

Have to believe based on comments from the practice and Pikiel’s apparent preference to rely and players he knows and who know his system that the starting lineup will be Francis, Mark, Buchanan, Sydnor and Gurdak with Davis the first player off the bench. Overall, this should be a much better starting lineup than last year. These five starters will likely deserve to play the bulk of the minutes this coming season.

With Lino Mark’s apparent improvement, our biggest needs were at the 4 and the 5 where it sounds like we have improved with the transfers.

 

[NightKnight]

So, no Duarte.

 

[RAC93]

So, no Duarte.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Have to believe based on comments from the practice and Pikiel’s apparent preference to rely and players he knows and who know his system that the starting lineup will be Francis, Mark, Buchanan, Sydnor and Gurdak with Davis the first player off the bench. Overall, this should be a much better starting lineup than last year. These five starters will likely deserve to play the bulk of the minutes this coming season.

With Lino Mark’s apparent improvement, our biggest needs were at the 4 and the 5 where it sounds like we have improved with the transfers.

We do also know at least a little bit more now. There’s no universe where we didn’t retain Buchanan at a reasonable price point considering he donated his entire NIL.