Myles Johnson should have guarded the inbounder so he doesn’t get a clean pass off. That happens, it is a win.
Guard the Inbounder
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C'mon... that was the best possible shot we could have asked for in that situation. I would rather have someone take it from half court than take that shot. It was an unbelievable make. You ask that kid to shoot that shot a 100 times, and he probably doesn't even make it once.
You’re right, but the fact is you do have to guard the inbounder. There’s no reason not to and it’s the right basketball play to make in that situation.
I agree with OP. I wanted them to guard inbounder because I remember years ago a similar situation and Lamizana I believe was guarding the inbounded on a full court pass and he tipped the ball and RU won. I am more disappointed in Mathis missing more late game big moment foul shots though than the decision not to guard the inbounder at desperation time.
It’s much more difficult to throw a pass near the other basket with a 6’10 human with long arms in your face.
We lost on a gut punch of a shot, and the one thing we're talking about is how we could have prevented it from happening. Maybe Iowa still makes the hail mary play over Johnson and they get a better look as a result. Then the complaint would be: "Why was Johnson guarding the inbounder?"
This isn't a situation like the one where that Illinois kid went off for 35 points.
This isn't a situation like the one where that Illinois kid went off for 35 points.
Some coaches do, some prefer to defend five against four. The value of guarding an inbounder who can run the baseline is somewhat diminished. Can't second guess one way or the other.
They doubled Bohannon. If they didn’t and Bohannon hit the shot everybody would be flipping out. Banked from the corner off a tip. It is what it is.
Guys - YOU GUARD THE INBOUNDER. Everyone knows that. Of course this is a topic because the shot was made, but regardless, guarding the inbounder in that situation is the right move.
Said he wanted to double Bohannon and take him away completely (which he did). The plan didn’t work out and isn’t one I would’ve had...
I think McCaffery going TD pass there is more questionable honestly. Sometimes better to be lucky than good.
Sorry ...we played totally it right based on WHO we were playing.
Iowa didn’t have a Christian Latner who could bully himself to the basket that you needed to prevent a 75 pass
They did have a crafty guard bohamman who, if he gets the ball moving forward, can get off a decent shot in 3.3 seconds ......and has won games on the buzzer and already tonight made during the game some crazy shots And was GETTING calls on any contact he created ...ANY
We played it right and got a fracking tip. And it took a shot in the corner that was so bad that it went off the backboard as a 10000-1
Shot that bird and Jordan could not call in the McDonald commercial
Iowa didn’t have a Christian Latner who could bully himself to the basket that you needed to prevent a 75 pass
They did have a crafty guard bohamman who, if he gets the ball moving forward, can get off a decent shot in 3.3 seconds ......and has won games on the buzzer and already tonight made during the game some crazy shots And was GETTING calls on any contact he created ...ANY
We played it right and got a fracking tip. And it took a shot in the corner that was so bad that it went off the backboard as a 10000-1
Shot that bird and Jordan could not call in the McDonald commercial
I felt the same way as well on guarding the inbounder and even said this prior to the pass. Rather than having a defender, we were double teaming Bohanon which I understand and respect. Iowa hit a miracle shot but I will always remember Pitino saying after the Laetner shot that his only regret was not having a defender on the inbound pass.
Clearly, not everyone knows that, because not everyone does that.
Can you imagine if bohannon beat us and we didn’t double him
Played it right
Played it right
I agree. Such a low percentage play - I was relieved when I saw that’s what they were doing. 3.2 seconds is a lot of time. Real heartbreaker of a loss as our guys played a great game.
Inbounder was right up at the line with no impediment in front for a baseball pass like a qb throwing a Hail Mary at the line of scrimmage with no defensive linemen on line. I doubt the ball reaches half court if a player like Myles is guarding the throw in. The inbounder would have backed up a few feet. Love Pike but he made the wrong defensive call. We’ll learn from this.
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GO RU
Can we stop comparing it to Christian lattner please? Laettner(the best college player in the country st the time) literally caught the ball at the foul line turned around and took a fade away foul line jump shot...
Today the ball was thrown to the hash got inadvertently tipped directly into the corner where a no name Iowa player had to rush a shot and ends up hitting the upper left hand corner of the back board at a freakish angle and drops it in....
These are no way comparable. We are acting like the inboundedr wouldn’t have taken two steps back and put a little more loft on the ball to get it over a seven footer. There was also three seconds left. That means bohanon could have come to the ball recieved a pass under the seven footer caught the ball at the 3 point line and taken 4 dribbles for a dead center 3 pointer. Iowa drew up a plan with options. They took what Rutgers gave them. At the end of the day I would rather have the shot that happened than get bohannon for a dead center 3. Unfortunately we will never know what could have happened but we do know that bohanon is deadly and we don’t want him having the ball ith 3 seconds left
Today the ball was thrown to the hash got inadvertently tipped directly into the corner where a no name Iowa player had to rush a shot and ends up hitting the upper left hand corner of the back board at a freakish angle and drops it in....
These are no way comparable. We are acting like the inboundedr wouldn’t have taken two steps back and put a little more loft on the ball to get it over a seven footer. There was also three seconds left. That means bohanon could have come to the ball recieved a pass under the seven footer caught the ball at the 3 point line and taken 4 dribbles for a dead center 3 pointer. Iowa drew up a plan with options. They took what Rutgers gave them. At the end of the day I would rather have the shot that happened than get bohannon for a dead center 3. Unfortunately we will never know what could have happened but we do know that bohanon is deadly and we don’t want him having the ball ith 3 seconds left
here is my view as the play unfolded... I am big fan of guarding the inbound everytime Im watching games when they do not inbound it seems like the players are just able to make clean catches...in this case it didnt matter as it wasnt a clean catch but then again guarding the inbound I just feel cause the accuracy of whether its being thrown to go down
and dont know people say that the inbounder put his foot over the line
and dont know people say that the inbounder put his foot over the line
great angle..... obviously coaches preference on guarding in bounder but i get why he didnt. if myles does guard the inbounder that means bohanon can come to the ball get it and take 3 or 4 dribbles and have a better shot than they got. i understand if it was like laetner where it was such an easy catch and shot but this we lucky.
this is the same thing as fouling someone up 3 late game. if you dont foul and they hit a 3 at the buzzer everyone goes nuts and says "you should have fouled. i always foul in that situation it worked in this game that game and that game." if they miss a 3 at the buzzer everyone says "great job not fouling and letting the guys play."
No u can’t say that. It was a tipped ball that could of went a million different ways including out of bounds but it goes to them and a turn around fn bank shot. Let’s stop complaining about guarding the inbounder. If they did they probably throw it to bohanion who puts up a steph curry 3 from just inside half court to win and the. The same people would be saying how could we let him beat us. A lucky or u lucky for us bounce. End of story heartbreaking. Boys played incredible.
I can say it because that is how I always feel about the situation just like I dont like fouling up 3.
3.3 seconds is an eternity for Bohannan to get a decent look with his range if we don't deny him. I didn't want that sucker to touch the ball under any circumstance so I'm not going to kill Pikiell for not guarding the inbounds. Sure a big man can disrupt a long overhead pass but you wouldn't need that type of pass to get Bohannan the ball in a position to put it on the floor and get off a decent look. Two guys went for the jump ball and didn't get it. The guy banked a shot high off the glass from the corner while almost out of bounds and behind the backboard with a seven footer in his face. That's basketball, Suzyn, damn it.
The point is he would have had to come back for the ball and go the length of the court, that's if they could even get it into him. You just can't let them throw the ball the length of the court - now way, never.
If he only had one guy guarding him you can't guarantee he'd have to come back to the ball go length of the court off the dribble. No way. Anywhere within 10 feet of half court and he'd have plenty of time to put the ball on floor and get off a good look (for him). Pikiell and I had the same nightmare scenario running through our heads.
Not all the time but I'm a big believer in guarding the inbounder-----all the time.
Then again when I'm up 3 and it's under 5 seconds I would always foul too as soon as the ball crosses mid court.
Lots of coaches don't believe in that either.
Shocking that we didn’t guard the inbounder. Even more shocking was that pike knows this . It was his team was knocked out of the tourney on the laettner buzzer beater when they didn’t guard the inbounder. He saw it up close.
Bottom line Rutgers loss the game with 3 seconds remaining because they failed to defend a full court Hail Mary pass.Yes. it was a very lucky shot made but Iowa has shooters capable of winning shots as seen in the previous game against Northwestern.
At tipped ball
A kiss on the backboard
Prayer shot
Didn't matter how it was guarded this thread is merely wishing it didn't happen.
A kiss on the backboard
Prayer shot
Didn't matter how it was guarded this thread is merely wishing it didn't happen.
This. The inbounder would have run the baseline and created space from Doorson or Johnson. The pass would have been similar if thrown long or they would have hit Bohannan running towards half court with 1:1 defending increasing the risk of a better shot or a foul.
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That shot was a miracle of miracles but I’m still guarding the inbounder. Any shot to win game that requires a pass across the entire length of court with 3 seconds left would be a miracle. Any Hail Mary throw in football to have a star wr catch the ball is a miracle to win the game. A Qb usually has someone in his face affecting the accuracy of the throw while the entire defense is told to stay back and bat the ball down. No one is affecting the accuracy of the inbound throw in. Inbounder is able to step into throw that practically goes over the outreach of our defenders beyond half court. If inbounder is forced to step back a few feet because of an outstretched seven footer at the line defending no way is the trajectory of the ball the same and i feel ball barely makes half court. It forces a player like Bohanon to come closer to half court or the inbounder to try and catch the ball and chuck it from half court or beyond rather than a shot getting off on the other side of court. Listen it was an unbelievably lucky set of circumstances that led to the shot going in but IMHO having a defender guard the inbounder was the difference in between a shot getting off at half court [if caught by an Iowa player] and a shot getting off on the other side of the court which is what happened.
Fudge RU should be 13-12 today. Btw those refs suck.
GO RU
Fudge RU should be 13-12 today. Btw those refs suck.
GO RU
Guess who else can run up and down the line: the defender of the inbound pass. In football we love when a qb has to toss the ball on the run. Leads to inaccurate throws and interceptions.
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I agree with not guarding the inbounder. The purpose of that was to deny bohanon with a double on the inbound as hes a lethal shooter on the run. I think youd sign up for that look iowa got 10/10 times