Grizzlies trade for Zack Randolph...

HD6

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can the blind lead the blind? Shall they both not fall into the pit?
 

hatfieldms

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Honestly, what is the guy going to mess up? Our winning ways? he is a 20 10 guy and if he #%+$% up you ship him out in a salary dump next year. The Grizzlies actually have a legit starting 5 right now
 
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Richardson was a stupid pickup last year. You have a young and impressionable team with lots of potential. Don't screw it up by bringing in another cancer.
 

Faustdog

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hatfieldms said:
Honestly, what is the guy going to mess up? Our winning ways? he is a 20 10 guy and if he #%+$% up you ship him out in a salary dump next year. The Grizzlies actually have a legit starting 5 right now
I agree on Randolf. Despite his antics, he's a hell of player on the floor. I wouldn't have a problem with this if I were a Grizzlies fan.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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I just think we have more room for him than we did for Quentin. And I don't see us being great anyway.

I fully admit it could totally backfire and blow up horribly though.
 

HD6

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If you mean legit chance to win 30, I might go along.
 

hatfieldms

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Th West is starting to get pretty old, and the grizzlies have a young team now that their key players now having 1-3 years of experience. It will be interesting to see how it turns out
 

MSUCostanza

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Hope the folks in Seattle are keeping their arena clean. They'll have a franchise again soon. People wonder why nobody goes to Grizzlies games? This stupid **** is why.
 

hatfieldms

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He is here for at most 2 years. The guy is a hell of a player, and if he can keep his head on straight he will be fine, if not he will be used as a salary dump next year. Once again will he make us any worse?
 
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Teams can't wait to get rid of him. Also add the fact that he is horrendous on defense. I mean like worse than Pau Gasol bad.
 

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hatfieldms said:
Honestly, what is the guy going to mess up? Our winning ways? he is a 20 10 guy and if he #%+$% up you ship him out in a salary dump next year. The Grizzlies actually have a legit starting 5 right now

Bingo. How much damage can you do to a 24-58 locker room?
 

MSUCostanza

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He's a helluva player? I guess that's why every team that gets him, turns around and desperately gets rid of him? How bad must his attitude be if teams throw him away at first opportunity despite his stats? And "if" he keeps his head on straight? Why take the chance with an incredibly young team?

Chris Wallace is a joke of a GM. Too bad the ownership doesn't give a ****. The Griz desperately need local ownership, or they will move.
 

VinceVega70

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The dropoff from Jerry West to Chris Wallace is immense. Immense!!! Wallace was pathetic in Boston. He is incapable of righting the Grizzlies ship. Hiring Wallace was a much worse idea than hiring Zach Randolph.
 

oem

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DesotoCountyDawg said:
Teams can't wait to get rid of him. Also add the fact that he is horrendous on defense. I mean like worse than Pau Gasol bad.

The Griz are horrendous on defense. Again, how can this trade make it any worse. The Griz were also dead last in rebounding. Randolph can at least do that. Hatfield is right. You guys are overreacting. You act like ZR is going to ruin this franchise. With the exception of a couple of good years with Hubie and the Czar, this thing's been a train wreck since it landed in Canada. It's not Zack Randolf's or Chris Wallace's fault. And its not like they gave up John Havlechek with Quentin Richardson.
 

MissStFan87

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MSUCostanza said:
Chris Wallace is a joke of a GM. Too bad the ownership doesn't give a ****. The Griz desperately need local ownership, or they will move.
The rumor I heard/read was that Wallace wanted to sign David Lee (though it sounds like Lee's looking for way more money than he's worth), but Michael Heisley has wanted Randolph all along. Take that for what it's worth.

I don't question the numbers Randolph has put up in his career or his ability to score. But as it's been said many times in this thread, you have to be concerned about his attitude and lack of defense. I hope he decides to grow up and doesn't have anymore issues, but I won't hold my breath. Seeing as they've now traded for a power forward, it'll be interesting to see what the Grizzlies do in the free agent market. There's still some money to spend.
 

ckDOG

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Someone explain to me how the Grizzlies will be set up for the 2010 free agent class? I'm really not very knowledgeable of what sort of money they will be committed to next year and how much cap space they potentially have to work with to get a superstar next year.

I do know this, we essentially got rid of Darko Milicic and in return got a 20/10 guy. Sure, he's a headcase, as are many NBA players. I'm not going to freak out about it. The biggest need now is a decent backup PG to Conley. They could make some noise...
 

hatfieldms

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I don't know how much they will have to spend but they will have some of their own players to lock up starting next year. I would also imagine that next year's draft is when they would plan on getting their future PF and once again I understand he has been a pain in the ***, but he hasn't exactly been with successful franchises. They all had issue well beyond Randolph
 

MissStFan87

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Had to post it here.

 

ckDOG

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http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-42-7/The-Clippers-Find-a-Willing-Taker.html

Pretty good insight on the trade - I think both parties benefit (can't get worse for the Griz). Clippers free up minutes and payroll. Grizzlies get PF scoring/rebounding - and aren't committed 5 years (David Lee). Thabeet/Gasol can complement Randolph on his "questionable" D. If he's a bust, he can have the warm spot on the bench left over from Milicic. He's pricier than Darko, but worth the extra cost seeing that Randolph can actually produce.

Additionally, I still don't get the character concerns on Randolph. Once again, he's replacing Darko Milcic, the scary f'ing "I'm going to rape your mother and children" Serbian. If the young impressionable minds on the Grizzlies roster can put up with him, surely they can put up with another headcase. It's the NBA - at least one headcase is unavoidable - might as well be a prodcuctive one, right?

I don't think the Grizzlies fate has been sealed yet. They have the potential to be pretty decent this year and hopefully will be set up to pick up an all-star caliber player in free agency next year. I'm not going to call Chris Wallace the NBA's best GM, or even in the top half. But, it seems that he get's ripped for any move made short of signing Lebron James to a league minimum contract. I think this was a very realistic move.

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Pimp Doggy

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<div class="postcolor"> I wake up to this after seeing Charlie V at 5yr-$40M thinking the bar was set for David Lee.

Let's look at this in terms of desert. Let's talk in terms of talent only, not character, not effort. Let's say David Lee is Cheesecake and Z-Bo is Cheesecake with a litte extra, let's call it "Blueberry Topping."

How many people would pick the Cheesecake with Blueberry if you had knowledge that the topping was laced with cyanide? Didn't think so. We already have had to deal with Darius Miles' bad influence around OJ when he got arrested 6 weeks ago. Remember this nuggett from the CA?
The Griz grew weary of Miles' waning work ethic and his relationship with rookie guard O.J. Mayo. There was widespread concern in the organization about Miles' off-the-court influence on Mayo near the end of the season. <font color="#1E1E1E">Mem CA Link</font>
I'm really pissed off about this, Period. He may avg 23 and 11 the first month of the season, yet I'll still be waiting for "it" to happen................ </div>
 

seshomoru

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Zach Randolph is now a ________.

If your a fan of the team that fills in the blank, it is a bad thing. There's no need to look at points, rebounds, contract, etc.
 
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