Absolutely. This game is bringing back fine Greg memories, like the N. Hampshire game.
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This is nothing like NH. It was a cold wet windy day. This was a day to run the ball, stay close and win in the 4Q. PSU had the same game plan. They were simply better.
frankly I dont like the black uniforms the last thing this team needs is a distraction. I know they are cool and the players like, well then make the some kind of reward.
Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the other team. PSU dominated the lines for most of the game.
whoa this wasnt a new hampshire wtf it was more of a uconn or syracuse bad and flat
We were operating in slow motion and they were on fast forward .
The only helpful adjustment he could have made was in-game recruitment of bigger, stronger players on both lines.
at this point the season is beyond over and despite what some believe recruits barely care about winning and they certainly dont care about winning or losing by more or less. I would rather play vedral for the value in selling the best transfer qb on the notion that the job is his no matter what next season.
Art was throwing in warmups, alternating with Vedral.
Surprised that we didn’t see Art.
Maybe Richie can ask Greg about it post game?
New Hampshire was a case of GS just coaching his D to do things they need to do against better teams. Lots of stunts and blitzes that made no sense against UNHs spread offense quick-hitting team. We wouldn't have enough time for the stunt or blitz to do its job. We would have been better off just playing straight-up read and react and allow our superior athletes (over UNH) to do the job.
But GS did not care about beating UNH.. he cared about building a defense.
I have no idea what the offense did or didn't do that game.. but early offenses under GS were weak.. hell.. the first 5 games or so of 2006 were pathetic, offensively.
I do no think this game, nor any game this season, has anything to do with UNH.
totally. It’s time to let these gimmicks go. Also CHOP. I can see using it this year as a kind of nostalgic one-off, but keeping it into 2021 in the Big-Freaking-10 would just be hokey. Also It clearly doesn’t work....
It's early yet and I'm willing to grant that lack of talent puts him into a tough spot at times. However, so far we are seeing a lot of the same issues with outcomes that we saw for Greg 1.0: inconsistency, QB play that drives you up a wall, inability to beat certain programs EVER no matter how bad their season is, etc.
Rutgers vs New Hampshire was 2004. Chip Kelly was the OC at the time for NH.
The question then is what do you do?? This isn’t a 2020 season question. They’re gonna blow up our lines every year. What can you do to counteract the talent discrepancy in the lines? At least 4 teams have done it this year. Arguably 5 if you don’t think OSU’s lines are better.
Man! Horomone prescriptions will go up to control the emotions in this thread. We played well above expectations in every game this year and some are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hang tight. It was one fall flat on our face game. Meaning, we didnt play above expectations. We aren't achampionship team to expect this type of consistency. Yet
UCONN 2011 was like year 12. This is like month 9. Not exactly apples to apples.
Recruit better. No, you’ll never put recruit them but you have a better chance with high 3 stars than 2 stars.
The notion that Art can stretch the field is laughable. What is the longest pass Art has ever completed, excluding YAC. 25 yards maybe?
Expectations have been raised with folks seeing how well we have played. This game not so much as our O Line was manhandled . Defense played much better the second half.
Yeah but the OP is probably a few sheets to the wind . Passionate fan he is, but doesn’t know football. He loved ash . Case closed
There are no quicker fixes. Some impact transfers on Oline and DLine would help a ton.
There is really only one way out. We simply have to recruit those positions better or we won’t be competing with the big dogs.
true.. and then you have to scheme better.. have better work ethic.. better spirit.. lots of things go into beating teams that have more raw talent.
But then you have head-scratching decisions.. like a was it 3rd or 4th and very long and having a shotgun with a play-fake... who was that supposed to fake out?
THAT is the kind of thing you need to 'contact trace'. Who made that play call.. who okayed that call... did anyone bring it up afterward.. how can you prevent a playcall like that from being made in the same situation ever again.... was there someone in the coaches booth keeping his mouth shut about the futility of a play-fake there? If so, why?
And I would add.. what was the decision making process on not sending in Sitkowski at least with 4 minutes left.. was it that Vedral, with the wind, was the better choice? Was it even considered as an option (bringing in Sit)...
NOW.. it could be that just a fan's question.. that the whole coaching staff has discussed this and it just was ruled out well ahead of time for what everyone (or event just the top guys) find were good reasons... and that it should not be discussed.
But every questionable decision needs to be analyzed.. going for it on forth with the wind... who made that call.. was wind considered? was giving PSU the short field against the wind considered? If wind was not considered.. how can you change that decision-making process so that someone can bring up the wind or some other factor to provide better information more quickly.
credit schiano for adjustments and rallying the troops. The way we were dominated on the los it’s amazing it was this close.
I ask because this is modern football. These are the same plays every modern O runs.
I'm giving it 2 more years before I start... but let the record absolutely show that from DAY 1 of our new coaching search I was COMPLETELY AGAINST hiring Greg back. Had a lot of old heads with fond memories of 15 years ago mad at me but I saw what I saw as a coach from him... My view has not changed this year
Pretty much nobody agrees with you.
This is genuinely the DUMBEST thing I've read on this board in a loooong time and my god is that saying something. "Winning barely matters to recruits"... that's why Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and LSU lead the team recruiting rankings every year right? Good lord
Than start rooting for Penn State if you want easy answers. My god some of you are clueless. And a bunch of crybabies.