Greg Carter has to be pissed.....

[jdbulldog]

maybe he is too decent a fellow to express his feelings. My bet is he thinks our coaches tanked the last 15 minutes of the game.

 

[ShrubDog]

maybe he is too decent a fellow to express his feelings. My bet is he thinks our coaches tanked the last 15 years.

Listening to Randy Romo Kennedy last night got us all thinking....

 

[Sylvester_Creamy]

maybe he is too decent a fellow to express his feelings. My bet is he thinks our coaches tanked the last 15 minutes of the game.

maybe he should have a few drinks and get some confidence. Guy should be livid.

 

[mstateglfr]

maybe he is too decent a fellow to express his feelings. My bet is he thinks our coaches tanked the last 15 minutes of the game.

express his feelings about what?

 

[jdbulldog]

express his feelings about what?

Do I really have to answer that? If you saw the game you know the answer.

 

[mstateglfr]

Do I really have to answer that? If you saw the game you know the answer.

I am genuinely confused and wasnt sure if I missed something.

I watched the game, yes.

I am honestly not sure why you specifically mention him being pissed as thru the years players that perhaps deserved more PT havent played, but I've never seen a thread like this.

You suggest maybe he is too decent of a fellow to speak up...perhaps it isnt his place to speak up. He is the father of a player on a high level d1 basketball team- it isnt his place to run to a reporter and start ranting.
Call that being decent, I guess. Its really just basic maturity.

The fact that you think he feel MSU purposely lost the game(tanked) helps here as it allows me to better understand your total lack of grasp of social skills and you ignorance as to how college athletics works.

17ing damn- you really think a player's dad feels the staff lost the game on purpose?
Wt17 is wrong with so many in our fanbase?

 

[paindonthurt_]

I agree with most of your post, but unfortunately a lot of people these days, “speak up” when they should shut up.

 

[jdbulldog]

Perhaps I gave the wrong implication about the staff by using the word “tanked”. Certainly our staff did not and would never lose a game intentionally. It was a poor choice of the word. By speaking up I never meant going to a reporter. Let m try a different way.....Greg is a proven coach/player and had to have some real questions about our game management the second half. You have no clue as to my social skills nor my knowledge of college athletics, college coaches, and college athletes. Maybe I am not the best writer but otherwise you might be very surprised. My apology for the implication....

 

[PineGroveBully]

Greg knows how successful basketball team function. Name one thing that would improve his son's PT or the team's success that GC could possibly say to Howland or the press. I know this is the age of the helicopter parents but this is big boy sports. GC knows exactly how little credence he'd give a yapping parent of one of his players and I suspect he's wise enough to not do so himself.

 

[ShrubDog]

I am genuinely confused and wasnt sure if I missed something.

I watched the game, yes.

I am honestly not sure why you specifically mention him being pissed as thru the years players that perhaps deserved more PT havent played, but I've never seen a thread like this.

You suggest maybe he is too decent of a fellow to speak up...perhaps it isnt his place to speak up. He is the father of a player on a high level d1 basketball team- it isnt his place to run to a reporter and start ranting.
Call that being decent, I guess. Its really just basic maturity.

The fact that you think he feel MSU purposely lost the game(tanked) helps here as it allows me to better understand your total lack of grasp of social skills and you ignorance as to how college athletics works.

17ing damn- you really think a player's dad feels the staff lost the game on purpose?
Wt17 is wrong with so many in our fanbase?

The way I read it was the coaches made some big mistakes in the final 15mins.

And....when I replied to him via quote, I fixed it for him saying 15 years. It never crossed my mind that they tanked to purposely lose the game but tanked because they just suck.

 

[mstateglfr]

Perhaps I gave the wrong implication about the staff by using the word “tanked”. Certainly our staff did not and would never lose a game intentionally. It was a poor choice of the word. By speaking up I never meant going to a reporter. Let m try a different way.....Greg is a proven coach/player and had to have some real questions about our game management the second half. You have no clue as to my social skills nor my knowledge of college athletics, college coaches, and college athletes. Maybe I am not the best writer but otherwise you might be very surprised. My apology for the implication....

You said Carter thinks the coaches tanked the game and I pushed back. No implication at all.
At least you have backed off that suggestion.

As for Carter not going to a reporter...what else would he do to express his feelings based on your first post? So now you never meant expressing his feelings to a reporter or the coaching staff, you just meant that he is a proven coach and player and he would question our game management. Well yeah, of course he would question the game management- the team lost and it wasnt due to LSU being way more talented, so it would only be natural for a coach in the stands to question decisions. Thats just simple critiquing.
But that doesnt have anything to do with your first post where you suggest he is too decent to express his feelings.


Had you just stated something like- "Greg Carter had to have questioned some of the decision making in that second half. " I dont think anyone would have disagreed with you. Instead, you accused the coaches of tanking and complimented Carter for not speaking up about his perceived frustration.
Kinda sorta way different.

 

[CoastRat.sixpack]

I am genuinely confused and wasnt sure if I missed something.

I watched the game, yes.

I am honestly not sure why you specifically mention him being pissed as thru the years players that perhaps deserved more PT havent played, but I've never seen a thread like this.

You suggest maybe he is too decent of a fellow to speak up...perhaps it isnt his place to speak up. He is the father of a player on a high level d1 basketball team- it isnt his place to run to a reporter and start ranting.
Call that being decent, I guess. Its really just basic maturity.

The fact that you think he feel MSU purposely lost the game(tanked) helps here as it allows me to better understand your total lack of grasp of social skills and you ignorance as to how college athletics works.

17ing damn- you really think a player's dad feels the staff lost the game on purpose?
Wt17 is wrong with so many in our fanbase?

Actually it is you reading a meaning into the word "tanked" that he did not intend. There are two acceptable definitions of the word "tanked." One means to completely fail at something at great expense. The other definition means to intentionally or deliberately lose at something.

You are both referring to acceptable meanings of the word, but I wouldn't be so arrogant as to assume that he implied or meant something he didn't. It actually wasn't a poor choice of words by him, it was you reading a meaning into he didn't state or intend. Nothing else in the post implied in any manner that they did anything intentional or deliberately. Without some other reference, there is no basis to read that into his use of the word, without some other context.

You're welcome.

 

[jdbulldog]

The way I read it was the coaches made some big mistakes in the final 15mins.

And....when I replied to him via quote, I fixed it for him saying 15 years. It never crossed my mind that they tanked to purposely lose the game but tanked because they just suck.

Thank you. I hesitate to say anything else.

 

[DAWG61]

Let's not encourage fathers to publicly rant about their sons playing time. Us regular fans can pull that rope just fine.

 

[olblue]

maybe he is too decent a fellow to express his feelings. My bet is he thinks our coaches tanked the last 15 minutes of the game.

I bet you are a real joy at the Little League field.

Upward Basketball was created for people like you.

 

[jdbulldog]

I bet you are a real joy at the Little League field.

Upward Basketball was created for people like you.

I never confronted any coach, volunteer or paid, in any sport my kids participated and that includes baseball, basketball, and soccer. During my coaching career I was confronted quite a few times which is why I would never attempt to tell a coach how to coach my kids. Although I prefer competitive basketball, I have endorsed Upward many times. It is unsurprising that some posters can read one thing and reach conclusions about an individual.