We are only two spots behind 14-14 Purdue in KenPom!
Lol, I know some get bored with this but it is comical to me.
Lol, I know some get bored with this but it is comical to me.
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You have to see it to believe it....his computer must have a virus, only thing I can think of.
https://kenpom.com/
If we win out (including the SECT) and finish 29-5 and do not get at least a 2 seed in the Dance, I will lose all hope for humanity.
There are only 17 teams ahead of us with more losses. Just 17.
So
So those guys can just finish with a winning record and have a shot at an at large?
You don't understand the system that's why you're so confused.
Kenpom was actually 24-25 in round quad efficiency during last years tournament. It's one of the best metrics anywhere and the algorithms use finite calculus and political science inside of its calculation which makes is nearly as good as the NET.
What I'm saying is you need to understand the system and clearly don't. This isn't hard.
Had we scored as many efficient points in quad quality time then we'd be ahead of Purdue. These threads are tiresome. What do you want?
Kenpom was actually 24-25 in round quad efficiency during last years tournament. It's one of the best metrics anywhere and the algorithms use finite calculus and political science inside of its calculation which makes is nearly as good as the NET.
What I'm saying is you need to understand the system and clearly don't. This isn't hard.
Had we scored as many efficient points in quad quality time then we'd be ahead of Purdue. These threads are tiresome. What do you want?
Well get ready to be depressed about global warming. UK will never get a 2 seed in the tournament. It's in stone for a 3/4 if we win out. Maybe not even the first #3. Hard to believe some still can't see that the media keeps their finger on the scale with regards to teams they don't like. Most are already setting the table to sway committee decisions.
Hey Morg,
You don't seem to understand. I don't care about the system, Purdue is 14-14. I have eyes and a brain.
I like ya fella, but if you are tired of the threads, which I know you are, don't read them.
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Kenpom is struggling this season. Part of the problem is the elevated strength of the Big10 in his numbers. That's why a crappy Purdue is still ahead of UK. The SEC is rated too lowly as well.
Sagarin is just better and more accurate this season. Last year, KenPom was excellent, very accurate. But I think the parody this season has messed with his numbers.
Purdue is the most volatile team in the nation. They either win in spectacular fashion, making a million threes, or they fizzle like a flat soda.
I literally just said this the other day. When I have watched Purdue this season, they r either straight murkin ppl or losin terribly. I’m always like wtf?
Yeah the B1G is super over rated. 2-3 solid teams, 7-8 really average teams battling it out, and two that flat suck.
Morg, you would be talking about UK on a 13 game win streak and pushing 30 Ws before the dance.
Yet Kenpom predicted we'd win today by 4 points and we won by 6.
Seems pretty close to me lol
Seems pretty close to me lol
I took his post as sarcasm, but I wil admit I've been under the weather, so I could just be dense today.
I could be wrong but I know he doesn't like threads about these things...positive about that.
I get it...and I get the algorithms behind it, I just don't agree that they are very accurate this year. Not to mention KP and others take margin of victory way too much into consideration.
Its crazy how losing at home to a sub 300 team hurts you in ever metric.
It has the cornoavirus
I would expect every metric to struggle this season. It's a terrible year in college basketball.
And thank god we did........ but that loss is deservedly haunting us. May Cal use that massive mistake and make sure we never lose to a mid major at home again.
It shouldn't be haunting us. It was months ago.
I agree though, the optics of losing that game sucked...never want to see it again.
Should the MSU win help us? it was months ago. How about the UL win? that was months ago. the entire season matters man...
The irony is that the Evansville loss doesn’t hurt us as much as it does in the general public’s. Failing to blow out Utah Valley, UAB, and Vandy in Rupp as a collective is much more influential in our “poor” rating than the one loss to Evansville.
Right.
We were still rated very high even after the Evansville loss.
We were actually rated pretty high even after the back to back losses with Utah and Ohio St.
I can't believe I must explain this again.
You don't understand the system. If you did this wouldn't be confusing to you.
What your eyes aren't showing you is the political science rating rating inside of the algorithm calculations. This is technologically anecdotal which is accurate.
We deserve an 8 seed but you've got to understand numbers in great detail to get it.
You don't understand the system. If you did this wouldn't be confusing to you.
What your eyes aren't showing you is the political science rating rating inside of the algorithm calculations. This is technologically anecdotal which is accurate.
We deserve an 8 seed but you've got to understand numbers in great detail to get it.
Right, the entire season matters. No loss or win should pull you up or down that much. It is about the entire body of work.
My eyes are telling me this is a team that does not have an ability to blow teams out.........even mediocre competition that top teams should be blowing out.
This is obvious to everyone. Just look at the game thread. It’s like we forget all about it once the game is over. Winning has a way of purging sins, I suppose.
And Duke just got beat by TWENTY TWO points to a sub 60 team and didn't budge?
Just accept that even if we get put out it doesn't mean these systems are worth a ****. Answer seriously bro, just because you were better at solving a rubik's cube than dribbling a ball doesn't mean you have to make us all suffer with you.
We are understanding that inside of the same year we're talking about Duke that was just curb stomped by 22 points and a team ranked ahead of us has a 14-14 record meaning not only could they not put teams away, they couldn't actually beat them. As in wins and losses, good and suck, right?
These models are trash. It should all be thrown out. It doesn't work for seeding and they'd be better off going by the AP top 25 at this point.
Duke's also won several games by 30+ in conference.
What have we done to make you think we are a top team?
Lets play a game. Name this team.
1. Lost to a mid major at home.
2. Lost another game at home by 6 (the team they lost to we beat)
3. Lost to a currently 14-12 team by 7
4. Lost to a currently 17-9 team by 22
5. Have won 9 of their games against unranked teams by 14 or less points, including a 2 point win over a team that currently has 17 losses.
6. Is ranked in Top Ten in KenPom
1. Lost to a mid major at home.
2. Lost another game at home by 6 (the team they lost to we beat)
3. Lost to a currently 14-12 team by 7
4. Lost to a currently 17-9 team by 22
5. Have won 9 of their games against unranked teams by 14 or less points, including a 2 point win over a team that currently has 17 losses.
6. Is ranked in Top Ten in KenPom
Duke’s rating can drop, but that does not entail a drop in ranking. They could have a sizable rating advantage over the next team large enough to not drop in ranking. It’s impossible to know because the NCAA doesn’t tell us ratings.
Duke also still remains number 1 in Sagarin predictor after losing by 22. Compared to their whole body of season performance, the one result was not significant enough to drop their rating enough to be overtaken by another team.
Be it Evansville, NC State for Duke, or another bad loss for x team, that entails just a single data point out of 25 others in each team’s profile. It’s much less important than the rest of the season
Duke also still remains number 1 in Sagarin predictor after losing by 22. Compared to their whole body of season performance, the one result was not significant enough to drop their rating enough to be overtaken by another team.
Be it Evansville, NC State for Duke, or another bad loss for x team, that entails just a single data point out of 25 others in each team’s profile. It’s much less important than the rest of the season