Goodbye to standard time

CB3UK

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Sign me up for permanent DST. Most people would prefer extra daylight after work.

As for the tired *** kids argument, most kids would rather have extra play time with their friends after school and couldn't care less about having to wait for the bus in the dark early in the morning. Most mornings in the winter it's either dark or the sun is coming up when I go in to work and the kids on my street are waiting anyway. It's just helicopter parent nonsense. The kids don't care. They aren't going to start playing in morning traffic because the sun isnt up yet.
 

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It probably won't even pass but I'd be for it just so adults can stop whining twice a year about it. You lose an hour, you gain an hour. That's it. People gotta pretend an hour really affects them and it takes days to get used to it. I've never bought that and will never buy that lol. No, I don't believe if you lost 2am to 3am that you're really really tired the following day or still feeling the loss of that hour on Monday at work. It's an hour. You're not recovering from a two day drug binge.
 

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It probably won't even pass but I'd be for it just so adults can stop whining twice a year about it. You lose an hour, you gain an hour. That's it. People gotta pretend an hour really affects them and it takes days to get used to it. I've never bought that and will never buy that lol. No, I don't believe if you lost 2am to 3am that you're really really tired the following day or still feeling the loss of that hour on Monday at work. It's an hour. You're not recovering from a two day drug binge.
That’s not it, people suffer from sleep disruptions, are groggy, lose concentration, have more accidents, more heart issues, and suffer from seasonal depression. It may be a small rise in some of these issues, but that’s something. Daylight savings time isn’t needed and causes more problems than it’s worth.
 
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I hate it being dark at 5:30 more.
Agree to disagree. Yes, it gets dark about 5:30 here in Louisville from mid December to mid January. So if we kept DST it would go to 6:30. What can you do that time of year outside With that extra hour? I’m personally inside or headed to Florida. When I worked I went to work in the dark and came home in the dark so wouldn’t have made a difference. Now that I’m retired I still get up between six and seven and would value the daylight as the sun rises, my personal favorite time of the day. Even when I worked I would have accomplished nothing of significance with that extra hour in the evening. Probably would have enjoyed it on I64 and I71 heading home.
 

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That’s not it, people suffer from sleep disruptions, are groggy, lose concentration, have more accidents, more heart issues, and suffer from seasonal depression. It may be a small rise in some of these issues, but that’s something. Daylight savings time isn’t needed and causes more problems than it’s worth.
It also caused the ghosts to escape from the ghost vault in the original Ghostbusters and it's to blame for the terrible alternate reality in Back to the Future Part II when Hill Valley was one giant biker gang convention/casino.

It's an hour in the middle of the night on a random Saturday night. I'll give you that you may still feel a little tired if you have to wake up really early the following morning for work or church but I'm not subscribing to the belief that losing or gaining an hour causes this much trauma that lasts for days. Anyway, the country tried this decades ago and it was switched back because people didn't like the result they thought they wanted.
 
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It also caused the ghosts to escape from the ghost vault in the original Ghostbusters and it's to blame for the terrible alternate reality in Back to the Future Part II when Hill Valley was one giant biker gang convention/casino.

It's an hour in the middle of the night on a random Saturday night. I'll give you that you may still feel a little tired if you have to wake up really early the following morning for work or church but I'm not subscribing to the belief that losing or gaining an hour causes this much trauma that lasts for days. Anyway, the country tried this decades ago and it was switched back because people didn't like the result they thought they wanted.
If you had to get up at 4am for work, you might make a difference. Big difference when you roll that clock forward that first month or two. But the kids the kids or golf or something. Again, it's all the same amount of daylight. Whichever way the majority wants it but quit ******* with it.
 

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It is not always better to have late daylight hours.
Early to bed is a key healthy habit and it’s hard to get a rhythm of sunset and 1-2 hours of night every day on our summer schedule.
 

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It probably won't even pass but I'd be for it just so adults can stop whining twice a year about it. You lose an hour, you gain an hour. That's it. People gotta pretend an hour really affects them and it takes days to get used to it. I've never bought that and will never buy that lol. No, I don't believe if you lost 2am to 3am that you're really really tired the following day or still feeling the loss of that hour on Monday at work. It's an hour. You're not recovering from a two day drug binge.
Well, you don't sound very intelligent if that's your take.
 

CB3UK

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Same effect as driving from Bowling Green to Lexington. Yet to hear anyone b!tch about that time change effect.
Uhhhh....if you've never heard of people complaining about losing sleep when they change time zones, that's a you problem. People complain about that constantly. What an utterly terrible example. :LOL:
 
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Well, you don't sound very intelligent if that's your take.
This board: younger generations are soft! The world is too soft now! SOFT!

Also this board: omg I lost an hour in the middle of the night I can't function properly for several days this is misery!
 
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It probably won't even pass but I'd be for it just so adults can stop whining twice a year about it. You lose an hour, you gain an hour. That's it. People gotta pretend an hour really affects them and it takes days to get used to it. I've never bought that and will never buy that lol. No, I don't believe if you lost 2am to 3am that you're really really tired the following day or still feeling the loss of that hour on Monday at work. It's an hour. You're not recovering from a two day drug binge.
I'm with you on all of it. Also, convince me most people aren't just waiting to be told what to be upset about.
 
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It also caused the ghosts to escape from the ghost vault in the original Ghostbusters and it's to blame for the terrible alternate reality in Back to the Future Part II when Hill Valley was one giant biker gang convention/casino.

It's an hour in the middle of the night on a random Saturday night. I'll give you that you may still feel a little tired if you have to wake up really early the following morning for work or church but I'm not subscribing to the belief that losing or gaining an hour causes this much trauma that lasts for days. Anyway, the country tried this decades ago and it was switched back because people didn't like the result they thought they wanted.
You’re pretty adamant about something that supposedly doesn’t matter.
 

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I'm with you on all of it. Also, convince me most people aren't just waiting to be told what to be upset about.
You may be onto something. People have been told just now not to like the changing of clocks backward and forward. Brand new manufacturered “outrage”.

Except of course for the many of normal folks that haven’t liked it since the early 1900s. Young and old folks alike. You weirdo contrarians are just odd.
 

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You may be onto something. People have been told just now not to like the changing of clocks backward and forward. Brand new manufacturered “outrage”.

Except of course for the many of normal folks that haven’t liked it since the early 1900s. Young and old folks alike. You weirdo contrarians are just odd.
Like anybody gives a **** about this until it comes up in your feed as something to get upset about. How much time have you really spent thinking about this ****? Probably more in this thread than ever in your entire life. Contrarian maybe, but this is a stupid thing that comes up twice a year and then is forgotten. Most people adapt quickly. Also, disagreeing makes someone a weirdo? **** off a little bit.
 

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This board: younger generations are soft! The world is too soft now! SOFT!

Also this board: omg I lost an hour in the middle of the night I can't function properly for several days this is misery!
You ever worked a night shift and watch the clock go back an hour at 3 am? That’s misery.

I do agree about the soft younger generation. The affordability complaint is the worst. Non-boomers- your parents had the same issues that you complain about. The difference is that they took bologna sandwiches to work and lived in 1100 SF houses and never went out to save their money. It’s called sacrifice, a word that is no longer in circulation.
 
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You ever worked a night shift and watch the clock go back an hour at 3 am? That’s misery.

I do agree about the soft younger generation. The affordability complaint is the worst. Non-boomers- your parents had the same issues that you complain about. The difference is that they took bologna sandwiches to work and lived in 1100 SF houses and never went out to save their money. It’s called sacrifice, a word that is no longer in circulation.
Brings back memories of weeks of surviving on peanut butter and wheat bread.
 
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Like anybody gives a **** about this until it comes up in your feed as something to get upset about. How much time have you really spent thinking about this ****? Probably more in this thread than ever in your entire life. Contrarian maybe, but this is a stupid thing that comes up twice a year and then is forgotten. Most people adapt quickly. Also, disagreeing makes someone a weirdo? **** off a little bit.
Disagreeing doesn’t make you a weirdo.

“just waiting to be told what to be upset about” Isn’t a differing opinion. It’s just wrong. You think myself or others have only thought about this because of this thread.

certainly isn’t the end of the world but to act like nobody thinks of this in the dog days of winter and that they have to be “told” not to like it is weird. Again, people haven’t liked it since 1918.

Reread the first post I replied to and tell me you were just disagreeing and not being a condescending a hole.
 
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Agree to disagree. Yes, it gets dark about 5:30 here in Louisville from mid December to mid January. So if we kept DST it would go to 6:30. What can you do that time of year outside With that extra hour? I’m personally inside or headed to Florida. When I worked I went to work in the dark and came home in the dark so wouldn’t have made a difference. Now that I’m retired I still get up between six and seven and would value the daylight as the sun rises, my personal favorite time of the day. Even when I worked I would have accomplished nothing of significance with that extra hour in the evening. Probably would have enjoyed it on I64 and I71 heading home.
Just head south of Louisville for 30min and you enter the CST, where that 5:30 is then 4:30. That's too freakin early for it to get dark!
 
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As opposed to school kids getting off the buses in the dark in the afternoon.

I dont think they would though. School kids are getting home in the 3pm range it seems and I think in any scenario that has been discussed, the worst we'd have is darkness by like 4pm in the northern most part of the US.

Northern most cities in NY, like Malone, have a sunset of 4:19pm on the shortest day of the year. So schools should be fine here i think.
 

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☀️ SUMMER SOLSTICE (Late June)


Permanent Standard Time:


Sunrise: 5:10 AM | Sunset: 8:05 PM (We lose an hour of summer evening daylight)


Permanent DST (Current Summer):


Sunrise: 6:10 AM | Sunset: 9:05 PM


❄️ WINTER SOLSTICE (Late December)


Permanent Standard Time (Current Winter):


Sunrise: 7:50 AM | Sunset: 5:20 PM


Permanent DST:


Sunrise: 8:50 AM | Sunset: 6:20 PM (Pitch-black mornings, but twilight after 5 PM)


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If Congress finally decides to "ditch the switch," the impact on central Kentucky (including Lexington and the surrounding Bluegrass region) would be dramatic. Because central Kentucky is sitting right on the westernmost edge of the Eastern Time Zone, we already experience some of the latest sunrises and sunsets in the zone.


Ending the twice-yearly clock change could go one of two ways: Permanent Standard Time (staying on winter time forever) or Permanent Daylight Saving Time (staying on summer time forever).


Here is exactly how daily life would shift in the Bluegrass under both scenarios.


Scenario A: Permanent Standard Time (Year-Round Winter Time)


If we permanently kept "Standard Time," we would never "spring forward" in March.


The Summer Solstice Reality (Late June):


Currently, the sun sets around 9:05 PM in central Kentucky on the longest days of the year.


Under permanent Standard Time, the sun would set at 8:05 PM.


Meanwhile, the sun would rise at a blinding 5:10 AM.


Daily Life Impact:


Evenings Cut Short: Say goodbye to late-evening outdoor activities. Youth soccer practices, twilight golf rounds, outdoor swim meets, and patio dining downtown would have their daylight cut short abruptly.


Wasted Morning Light: Unless you are up and training at 5:15 AM, a massive block of beautiful summer sunlight would be entirely wasted while the vast majority of the state is fast asleep.


Scenario B: Permanent Daylight Saving Time (Year-Round Summer Time)


If Congress made "Daylight Saving Time" permanent, we would never "fall back" in November.


The Winter Solstice Reality (Late December):


Currently, the winter sun rises around 7:50 AM and sets around 5:20 PM in central Kentucky.


Under permanent DST, the sun would not rise until 8:50 AM, while sunset would push back to 6:20 PM.


Daily Life Impact:


Pitch-Black Winter Mornings: This is the biggest drawback. Elementary and middle school kids would be standing at the bus stop or walking to school in complete, pitch-black darkness. The first period of the school day or the start of the workday would happen entirely before sunrise.


A Sliver of Evening Winter Hope: On the bright side, you wouldn't feel like the day is completely over when you leave the office. Pushing sunset to 6:20 PM means actually seeing a bit of twilight after a 5:00 PM workday ends, which many find a massive boost for winter mental health.
AI Slop. Get the f outta here you weirdo.
 
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Disagreeing doesn’t make you a weirdo.

“just waiting to be told what to be upset about” Isn’t a differing opinion. It’s just wrong. You think myself or others have only thought about this because of this thread.

certainly isn’t the end of the world but to act like nobody thinks of this in the dog days of winter and that they have to be “told” not to like it is weird. Again, people haven’t liked it since 1918.

Reread the first post I replied to and tell me you were just disagreeing and not being a condescending a hole.
Twice a year for two to three days it flares up like a zit. You do you. I don't know what post you're referring to and I'm not scrolling through your feed for you. Asking me to search your comments out makes you an even bigger condescending a hole as well so good day to you sir.
 

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Twice a year for two to three days it flares up like a zit. You do you. I don't know what post you're referring to and I'm not scrolling through your feed for you. Asking me to search your comments out makes you an even bigger condescending a hole as well so good day to you sir.
Here’s the comment. It was yours not mine.

“I'm with you on all of it. Also, convince me most people aren't just waiting to be told what to be upset about.”
 

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Just fall back 30 minutes, and be done with it. That way no one is happy
Agree. Moving to half time zones would solve this. KY would be Central + 30 minutes/Eastern - 30 minutes.

OTOH, could say F it & just have one time world-wide and each government/school/business could pick when they want to start/end. China is 4 zones wide & uses one time everywhere.
 

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You may be onto something. People have been told just now not to like the changing of clocks backward and forward. Brand new manufacturered “outrage”.

Except of course for the many of normal folks that haven’t liked it since the early 1900s. Young and old folks alike. You weirdo contrarians are just odd.
This is the main reason this board is so miserable. Contrarians arguing over stupid ****. No real debate. In real life, I think I know a lot of people. Since yesterday I've probably asked 50-75 people about their stance on this subject. I had one person, one I say, that was in favor of continuing to adjust the clocks. For those contrarians in this thread I pose a question: how did civilization make it to the early 20th century without dicking around with their clocks twice a year? Must have been worse than living before the marketing of toilet paper.
 

exo6desmo

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Like anybody gives a **** about this until it comes up in your feed as something to get upset about. How much time have you really spent thinking about this ****? Probably more in this thread than ever in your entire life. Contrarian maybe, but this is a stupid thing that comes up twice a year and then is forgotten. Most people adapt quickly. Also, disagreeing makes someone a weirdo? **** off a little bit.
I think about it twice a year, myself.
 

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I don’t care what they decide I’m not changing. Took too much for me to remember “spring forward” and “fall back”.

Sure, half the year I’ll be an hour late for work, but the other half I’ll be an hour early. They’re just gonna have to deal with it.

And don’t get me started on the metric system. I use it exclusively and I don’t care.

Until they walk a kilometer in my shoes they can shove it.
 

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I always thought they did it backwards. They should move it back in the Summer, and forward in the Winter.